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There are some Bluetooth devices that support Windows 98. They may have useable Drivers.

I may have found something useful, by searching WIDCOMM drivers, prompted by your suggestion. Here are some potential candidates to test. The XP WIDCOMM Bluetooth Stack can be made to accept almost any Bluetooth Radio by editing the .inf, in the same way as we do with NUSB on 9x/ME, so perhaps one or more of those 98 WIDCOMM drivers can be turned into a general solution...


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There definitely is a Bluetooth driver that works in 9x. I had one driver package from a BT dongle installation mini-CD, then I found (maybe mentioned here in these forums?) two other rather huge packages (35MB and 62MB, respectively) that were distributed by D-Link and Emtec. All of these packages contain an inf with a long list of vendor and product IDs and software produced by Widcomm.
But there's a catch: while the driver (namely btcusb.sys - do not mistake with btwusb.sys which does not work in 9x!) does work in 9x, the software - depending on version and package it's been installed from - may throw an "Evaluation mode" notice and limit transfer to 5MB!!! I wouldn't risk being banned by posting my blunt opinion about this practice but you get the idea.
Thing is, the driver is useless without a working application for it, so this should be our main concern: finding a proper application that'd work with the respective driver and all supported devices. All of those packages bundle the BlueSoleil application by IVT, but not all versions work in 9x. I did find one that does, with the above-mentioned limitation.
There's more to dig in related to this, maybe parts of the packages can be put together for a more complete set of options.

On another note, I just stumbled into another interesting matter: Windows Easy Transfer. It's (among other functions) a driver for a special cable that allows USB-to-USB direct transfer between computers. The MS driver ony works with XP but maybe it can be made to work in 9x. The package is rather weird, many .man files (containing xml-formatted manifests). I found a link to it here.

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I have added these four to the list above.

IoSetCompletionRoutineEx
ExFreePoolWithTag
IoSetHardErrorOrVerifyDevice
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The idea was good ...
It's a pity there are no results ...

BT
IVT BlueSoleil 1.6 runs under win98
in BTCUSB98 list of supported devices
in the README how to add new devices
Only USB 1.1 devices work for me, though.

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IVT BlueSoleil 1.6 работает под win98
в BTCUSB98 список поддерживаемых устройств
в README как добавить новые устройства
у меня работают только устройства с USB 1.1

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The translation is not perfectly accurate. The last line says actually more like "Only USB 1.1 devices work for me"
Though, I'm not native speaker and not sure if "work for" here is appropriate.

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The translation is not perfectly accurate. The last line says actually more like "Only USB 1.1 devices work for me"
Though, I'm not native speaker and not sure if "work for" here is appropriate.

Correction applied.
Thanks for the correction, M()zart, you do rock! :thumbup

In fact, most Bluetooth devices actually are USB 1.x (with USB 1.1 being about 10x faster than Bluetooth 2.0).

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I've been trying to get Linksys wmp54gx driver(it's MIMO) to load in 98se. It's made for 2000/XP but the inf has some references for 98. It goes through the install process and will give it an interupt and memory but in the driver details nothing is listed. I've modified the inf and now it appears to load the sys file, 802, and various .386 files but get the yellow flag- say's unable to load device driver. I've noticed in xp the only thing listed in driver details is the sys and a .bin file. I don't know anything about bin files. Linksys has used different sys files for 98 and 2000 in the past. Guess I need to find out what's in the .bin file

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http://four-f.webs.com/KmdTut/kmd03.html

Nice one!

Does anyone know if kernel mode drivers can run on W98? (I tend to associate these with XP and higher.)

I've been trying to get Linksys wmp54gx driver(it's MIMO) to load in 98se. It's made for 2000/XP but the inf has some references for 98. It goes through the install process and will give it an interupt and memory but in the driver details nothing is listed. I've modified the inf and now it appears to load the sys file, 802, and various .386 files but get the yellow flag- say's unable to load device driver. I've noticed in xp the only thing listed in driver details is the sys and a .bin file. I don't know anything about bin files. Linksys has used different sys files for 98 and 2000 in the past. Guess I need to find out what's in the .bin file

This seems a Ralink device. What are the hardware IDs for your card? There may be compatible drivers by Ralink.

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http://four-f.webs.c...dTut/kmd03.html

Nice one!

Does anyone know if kernel mode drivers can run on W98? (I tend to associate these with XP and higher.)

I've been trying to get Linksys wmp54gx driver(it's MIMO) to load in 98se. It's made for 2000/XP but the inf has some references for 98. It goes through the install process and will give it an interupt and memory but in the driver details nothing is listed. I've modified the inf and now it appears to load the sys file, 802, and various .386 files but get the yellow flag- say's unable to load device driver. I've noticed in xp the only thing listed in driver details is the sys and a .bin file. I don't know anything about bin files. Linksys has used different sys files for 98 and 2000 in the past. Guess I need to find out what's in the .bin file

This seems a Ralink device. What are the hardware IDs for your card? There may be compatible drivers by Ralink.

Joe.

It's Airgo. There's only one driver version-has 2 sys files, one for 2000 and xp i guess and one bin file. I have used IDA pro 5.0 to look at them but I'm a beginner
%Airgo.DeviceDesc%=Airgo.ndi, PCI\VEN_17CB&DEV_0001&SUBSYS_00451737

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http://four-f.webs.c...dTut/kmd03.html

Nice one!

Does anyone know if kernel mode drivers can run on W98? (I tend to associate these with XP and higher.)

I've been trying to get Linksys wmp54gx driver(it's MIMO) to load in 98se. It's made for 2000/XP but the inf has some references for 98. It goes through the install process and will give it an interupt and memory but in the driver details nothing is listed. I've modified the inf and now it appears to load the sys file, 802, and various .386 files but get the yellow flag- say's unable to load device driver. I've noticed in xp the only thing listed in driver details is the sys and a .bin file. I don't know anything about bin files. Linksys has used different sys files for 98 and 2000 in the past. Guess I need to find out what's in the .bin file

This seems a Ralink device. What are the hardware IDs for your card? There may be compatible drivers by Ralink.

Joe.

It's Airgo. There's only one driver version-has 2 sys files, one for 2000 and xp i guess and one bin file. I have used IDA pro 5.0 to look at them but I'm a beginner
%Airgo.DeviceDesc%=Airgo.ndi, PCI\VEN_17CB&DEV_0001&SUBSYS_00451737

Yeah, now Qualcomm, not sure why I thought Ralink. Anyway, the "WMP54GX-EU_DRUT.zip" INF looks to be split between W5.0- and W5.1+, so it might work, particularly if WdmStub can help. Have you tried WdmCheck?

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It's Airgo. There's only one driver version-has 2 sys files, one for 2000 and xp i guess and one bin file. I have used IDA pro 5.0 to look at them but I'm a beginner
%Airgo.DeviceDesc%=Airgo.ndi, PCI\VEN_17CB&DEV_0001&SUBSYS_00451737
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Yeah, now Qualcomm, not sure why I thought Ralink. Anyway, the "WMP54GX-EU_DRUT.zip" INF looks to be split between W5.0- and W5.1+, so it might work, particularly if WdmStub can help. Have you tried WdmCheck?

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No, all the links I tried were broken. Can you give me a link? A while ago I downloaded wdmstub.sys file and referenced it in the inf but it didn't help.
Anyway, that zip file is basically the same driver as I already working with; netani.inf, wnihdd50.sys, wnihdd51.sys, and wni6000.bin

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No, all the links I tried were broken. Can you give me a link? A while ago I downloaded wdmstub.sys file and referenced it in the inf but it didn't help.

Thanks for telling me about the broken links. I've changed the affected ones to Internet Archive copies. It seems Walter has retired : http://oneysoft.com/index.html

I've also added links relevant to 'WdmCheck'.

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Thanks for the link, I used the link and ran wdmcheck. Only one missing function with wnihdd50.sys file: "mmisaddressvalid" . With wnihdd51.sys, the list is longer. Is there a stub for this?

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On another note, I just stumbled into another interesting matter: Windows Easy Transfer. It's (among other functions) a driver for a special cable that allows USB-to-USB direct transfer between computers. The MS driver ony works with XP but maybe it can be made to work in 9x. The package is rather weird, many .man files (containing xml-formatted manifests). I found a link to it here.

Never thought about it before even after I had been (kind of ) following this Topic...

It just so happens I have an Alohabob USB Cable with the "PC Relocator Easy Transfer" v6.x software/drivers (Eisenworld) on CD. It HAS the Win98 USB Files on it! Thrift Store around the corner $0.99 in the box!

In addition, I found THIS which clearly indicates that MS PURCHASED this bad boy and (apparently) continued development and DROPPED Win9x (see link within Drugwash' link)! The original Websites are apparently shut down (since MS bought them out).
edit (followup) - Yep, more info here. I have no clue as to what good it is without corresponding software. Mine is apparently only for 9x/XP...

Any further interest in this, or is it currently irrelevant?

Edited by submix8c, 16 April 2013 - 10:00 AM.

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Any kind of driver that still supports Win9x should be distributed and backed up by us 9x users, for we never know what use it could be put to, in time. Could you possibly offer a valid download link for that driver package (and any software application)?

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Sadly, I have NO ACCOUNT anywhere. :( The CD is approx. 377mb and contains a folder called "Goodies" (approx 280mb) which INCLUDES (AFAICT) -
- Adobe Reader v7
- Alternate Installer (Alohabob.exe - 68mb) - contents has a program "PCRACTIVATE.EXE"
--- Google finds Keys (whatever) for older versions
--- Release Notes says "Version 6.2.9.1"
--- Driver Folder in the INF "WinDrvr6.inf: Jungo WinDriver v6.2.2 Installation file"
--- (etc etc)
- Blancco Data Cleaner
- IE 6.0.28 (???)
- MS Office (NOT the Product) - 97+2000 Service Packs + MSICUU (Win2k)
- MSI - 1.1 / 2.0 / 3.1
- OE5 RegClean
- PC Backup Lite (another one of the Manuf. products but Lite vers.)
- A folder w/the Win95/NT versions of MSICUU.EXE
- "Other" stuff (folders specific to PC Relocator)
"Readme" says "For convenience only". Odd that all of that is ther - must have had a Distribution Agreement.

The BASE CD Install (excluding the Goodies) for the Software has the Driver INF stating "Jungo WinDriver v6.2.2"...

So... what are the Options on this? Seems a shame that this would "disappear" into the ether if I don't make it to Retirement. :P

The ONLY thing I could possibly do would have to be PRIVATE by "other means"... We're treading on dangerous grounds... ANd I'm REALLY unsure if this would work with other cables. One might "assume" that it would since the Driver seems to be from "jungoDOTcom"... :unsure:

...and almost wish I hadn't brought it up. :ph34r:

!!! "Jungo is now part of Cisco"!!! (go ahead, go to the website...)
Further info (inspecting the Driver Folder) - Jungo "windrvr6.sys" (google that) appears to be a "generic" USB and ANOTHER "EWUSB.INF" seems to be what the Vendor used.
; Installation file (.inf) for USB Bridge Cables
; Portions Copyright (c) 2004 Eisenworld, Inc.
; Portions Copyright (c) 2004 Prolific Technology, Inc.
; Portions Copyright (c) ALi, Inc.
<snip>
[DeviceList]
"Alohabob USB Bridge Cable"=Install, USB\VID_067B&PID_0000
"Alohabob USB ALi Cable"=Install, USB\VID_0402&PID_5632
<snip>
[Strings]
jun="Jungo LTD."
Mfg="Prolific Technology, Inc./ALi"
The SOFTWARE appears to create "xxx.DMV" files that can be "browsed" and specific files extracted (similar to Ghost Explorer). I REALLY don't know how MS (or MSFN) would feel about this since they BOUGHT them out (not Jungo, but the Software).
In addition (inside the Driver folder) are several EXE files - google
wdreg.exe
to see what "they" do.
Zipping the USB folder (JUST the Drivers/EXE's) amounts to 313kb...

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Theoretically, the driver should work for any brand and make of cable as long as it uses the respective chipset model (or family) and it may be of use for other devices with same or similar chipsets, unless they're strictly dedicated. There's no harm in trying though.

I've recently set up an account at FileDen.com, since my attachment quota here is way overloaded and I also needed a place to store my toys. You may get an account there, it's not very much user-friendly in terms of manipulating files and they don't allow many file types, but it works and it doesn't expire in time (unless they get brought down or out of business). 7-zip archives are allowed but max file size it's 100MB if I'm not mistaken, so a full ISO wouldn't fit.

Another alternative is to set up a HTTP or FTP server (easy way would be the beta version of HFS by rejetto), get in touch with the peers by PM, instant messaging, e-mail or anything similar and sent them the link to the package. You'll have to keep the server up until they finish grabbing it though. I used to use HFS years ago but since I'm on a GPRS modem, I can't seem to get through, for some reason - hopefully you won't have such issues.

The driver package only, given it's small size, can be sent my mail - just make sure you don't use GMail (as sender or receiver), as they do not allow executables and possibly other files such as DLL, SYS, etc. no matter how packed they are.

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If I may, those "controllers" are respectively the Prolific and the Ali one, I think there are (separate) drivers for both.
And seemingly there was also a Microsoft version of the cable driver compatible with win98:
http://download.cnet...93_4-97865.html

This may be of interest:
http://prolificusa.c...pl25A1_v1.1.pdf
Seemingly the good Prolific guys do have a program (and drive) compatible with Windows 98 (PCLinq3):
http://web.archive.o...eneric_3103.zip

And these should be the Ali drivers :unsure::
http://www.drivers-d.../Drv/ALI/M5632/

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And seemingly there was also a Microsoft version of the cable driver compatible with win98:
http://download.cnet...93_4-97865.html

Does anyone have an actual download to USB Easy Transfer Cable 5.1.3785.0.
The link at cnet points to the WinXP version.

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PROBLEMCHYLD, after quite a bit of searching, the closest thing I can find is Windows Easy Transfer (I don't know if it includes drivers), but the earliest version I can find is 6.xx. I wondering if the earlier version were called something else. The binaries I found are named 'tfrcable_x86.exe'. Interesting they used "cable" in the name.

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PROBLEMCHYLD, after quite a bit of searching, the closest thing I can find is Windows Easy Transfer (I don't know if it includes drivers), but the earliest version I can find is 6.xx. I wondering if the earlier version were called something else. The binaries I found are named 'tfrcable_x86.exe'. Interesting they used "cable" in the name.

Same here. Even wayback machine send you to the WinXP version.

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I don't wanna get too far off topic, but I did find this while looking. I know it's not what you're looking for. I never saw it before, says it compatible with 98 SE or later:

http://transfers.ds.microsoft.com/ftm/

Edited by Steven W, 24 April 2013 - 03:01 PM.


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Please bear in mind that "Windows Easy Transfer" XP-and-up version is an offshoot/upgrade to the PURCHASED version. Microsoft killed the below-XP Software (see link I gave above about the "acquisition"). The Software is what utilizes the connections, kind of like the "old-fashioned" "Direct Cable Connect" with Serial/Parallel connections...

See the Wiki-Wiki -
http://en.wikipedia....able_connection
Also note MS "killed" the DCC link to -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/814982
Still available at -
http://web.archive.o...t.com/kb/814982
(among the other "killed" links of a multi-part KB article...)
Hmmm... think I'll archive it myself...

They WANT you to use their "new improved" version...

I seriously doubt finding anything more than the "last available pre-MS" version...

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I don't wanna get too far off topic, but I did find this while looking. I know it's not what you're looking for. I never saw it before, says it compatible with 98 SE or later:

http://transfers.ds.microsoft.com/ftm/

Thanks, but I already have it stored. Its only good for downloading ISOs from MSDN. It does not work with other websites besides Microsoft, it does not work with Opera or Firefox. It does use ActiveX which is somewhat good, because a programmer can create a ActiveX plugin, which might make it worth while.

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Followup (re - Archive Web Pages) - Real sad! They reference Win9x so they got "tossed". I have the XP pages and will get the EIGHT pages for Win98 (probably good for Win95/ME as well).

THIS is the sad part! It's basically "Local Connections For Dummies" and reinforces ALL of the Sharing Rules that have been repeatedly described but in detail. The only difference (AFAICT) is that it describes "Host" and "Guest" but does go on to describe Bi-directional Connections.

Proceeding to collect Win9x pages... Will post (if no Super/Mod cares) elsewhere. ;)

(Why? It looks like all you need is a bi-directional connection...)

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