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#21 User is offline   CoffeeFiend 

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 04:22 PM

View PostTripredacus, on 02 March 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

What about the PowerShell prompt? I never use it myself...

PowerShell runs as any other program, under crappy old cme.exe, but yes, there's the PowerShell ISE as well. Still, cmd.exe kinda sucks.

View PostTripredacus, on 02 March 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

Thumbs was definately a scourge during XP, but I haven't noticed it too much in 7

On a network with both OS'es mixed you still see plenty of it...

View PostTripredacus, on 02 March 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

As far as Desktop.ini, it is one reason why I don't choose the option to show hidden files, since when you do you get two desktop.ini on the Desktop. I know why they are there but come on...

If you delete them enough times they actually go away. But yes, totally an unnecessary pain.

View PostTripredacus, on 02 March 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

Speaking of which, what if there was a way to show hidden files just in certain folders? Say i want to see everything in the Windows folder or AppData, but I don't need to see everything else unless I want to!

I'm not aware of such a feature unfortunately.


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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:06 PM

View PostCoffeeFiend, on 01 March 2012 - 10:28 PM, said:

-getting rid of thumbs.db and desktop.ini files all over the place

View PostTripredacus, on 02 March 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

Thumbs was definately a scourge during XP, but I haven't noticed it too much in 7.

View PostCoffeeFiend, on 02 March 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

On a network with both OS'es mixed you still see plenty of it...

The thumbnail cache can be disabled in XP and Win7 with any of the following registry entry codes. A reboot may be required.

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HKCU,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced","DisableThumbnailCache",0x10001,1

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[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"DisableThumbnailCache"=dword:00000001

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REG ADD "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced" /F /V "DisableThumbnailCache" /T REG_DWORD /D 1

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 06:26 PM

View Post5eraph, on 02 March 2012 - 05:06 PM, said:

The thumbnail cache can be disabled in XP and Win7 with any of the following registry entry codes.

Yes, I'm aware of that. But again, it just takes the one user without it, and your network shares will be chuck full of the said garbage files. Too much hassle :(

Then again, it's not the biggest issue on my list. Not by a long shot. And that list isn't remotely complete either. I'm just saying that there is so much stuff that really needs to be solved and work out of the box, some of it which has been an issue for over a decade, and instead they give us this Metro crap we don't want of. Instead of making what they had (desktop) shine, they turned the desktop in a big mess (screwing up everything they had) to hopefully gain traction in the mobile space which won't happen anyway: they've never done well, their marketing sucks, their online services suck, they have a tendency to just kill their own products (Zune? PlaysForSure? Windows Mobile? Kin? etc), and here they offer absolutely *nothing* over Android or iOS devices which are both mature, well entrenched, and have tons of nice apps. The only way to win is not to play.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 12:04 AM

View PostMagicAndre1981, on 02 March 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:


MagicAndre,

Thank you very much, that did the trick! :thumbup

And thanks @Tripredacus for suggesting this approach. :yes:

Now the boot screen gives three OS choices. B)

You know what I'll be doing this weekend...

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 11:26 AM

View PostJorgeA, on 03 March 2012 - 12:04 AM, said:

And thanks @Tripredacus for suggesting this approach. :yes:


Some day I'll learn how to do that myself, but I have yet to determine a use for that technology in my work.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 12:22 PM

Prior to Windows 8 I have used VHD to boot bitlocker-protected variants of Windows 7 (for normal use) and Windows Server 2008 R2 (for Hyper-V) without doing multiple partitions. With Windows 8 client and Hyper-V on a SLAT enabled system, though, I won't need to do that anymore.

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 07:15 AM

It didn't allow me to install WCP over the current WDP! I had to format the partition and install WCP fresh new. I have no complaints so far after a day of using it.

Ah, although the Windows Experience Index has a new scale from 1.0 to 9.9, my computer score is the same as before; 4.9!

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 09:57 AM

View PostAloha, on 04 March 2012 - 07:15 AM, said:

It didn't allow me to install WCP over the current WDP! I had to format the partition and install WCP fresh new. I have no complaints so far after a day of using it.


I think all MS Beta OSes are upgrade locked, aka you can't upgrade them using Windows Setup.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 01:02 PM

with the cversion.ini-trick the upgrade should work.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 01:14 PM

Someone discover how disable stupid metro?? On PC is very ugly.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 02:08 PM

View Postcondor, on 05 March 2012 - 01:14 PM, said:

Someone discover how disable stupid metro?? On PC is very ugly.

No... not yet, anyway.

Speculation is running both ways on whether Microsoft will (or will not) eventually provide a built-in way to disable Metro, at least for business versions of Windows 8.

On the other hand, there seems to be little doubt, even among fans of Metro, that sooner or later some sort of hack or workaround will be developed to at least bring back a real Start Menu and its functionality.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 01:03 AM

View PostMagicAndre1981, on 05 March 2012 - 01:02 PM, said:

with the cversion.ini-trick the upgrade should work.

Can you post it, MagicAndre? What is it?


View Postcondor, on 05 March 2012 - 01:14 PM, said:

Someone discover how disable stupid metro?? On PC is very ugly.

You don't like it, you can always go to the old view of the desktop. I don't like the Metro Start either. I rarely turn to it, just working with the desktop all the time!

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 04:02 AM

View Postcondor, on 05 March 2012 - 01:14 PM, said:

Someone discover how disable stupid metro?? On PC is very ugly.


http://www.onebitzer...xt-menu-how-to/

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 07:45 AM

bphlpt

That trick work only in developer preview :P

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 08:17 AM

View PostAloha, on 06 March 2012 - 01:03 AM, said:

View PostMagicAndre1981, on 05 March 2012 - 01:02 PM, said:

with the cversion.ini-trick the upgrade should work.

Can you post it, MagicAndre? What is it?


this is the same like in IWndows 7. Open it and change the version number MinClient from 8220 to 8102, create a new ISO and run setup ;)

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:54 AM

This could be exciting: an application to (maybe) bring back the function of the Start Menu, if not the look.

It seems to restore the Start orb and to add a Shutdown option. And -- last but not least -- it doesn't take over your entire screen, so you can still see open windows while selecting a new program.

Something like this (especially if given the Windows 7 start menu look, like ViStart) could be the lifesaver for Windows 8. I'll be trying it as soon as I finish other explorations of the CP (in case Start8 messes everything up).

--JorgeA

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 01:14 PM

the program displays a Metro-Style App

Attached File  Start8_.png (139.75K)
Number of downloads: 8

I don't like it :}

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 07:52 PM

Unfortunately no decent start menu yet, yeah.

Meanwhile, yet another good read: That Windows 8 experience? Confusing. Confusing as hell

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 08:01 PM

what a mismatch.

M$ should've ditch this metro-for-desktop alltogether, but it would ruin their new-metro-trainnings partners program, I mean M$ have done this for their extra-large-tabbed-toolbars ribbons before...

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 08:45 PM

View PostJoseph_sw, on 06 March 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:

M$ should've ditch this metro-for-desktop alltogether

I agree wholeheartedly, but that would make Win8 more of a service pack than a new OS i.e. just a couple minor new features that most won't use, and I don't seemingly have any use for most of them.

Hyper-V seems like a desperate push for their virtualization tech that nearly nobody seems to be adopting, reset is mostly sending the wrong message (our OS needs reinstalls so often that we built that in!) while not being really helpful, Internet Explorer version++ which I won't touch with a 10 foot pole, and that's about it for the main changes. Unless you want to talk about the Windows on ARM whose main feature seems to be incompatibility, which is paired with the kludgy interface of Win8 that nobody likes and MS' poor online services (sounds like a winner, no?)

The one and only thing I like from it is the task manager. And I'm not paying $100+ for that, especially when the rest of the OS is ruined. Instead of making us pay $100 for a handful of extra features (remote desktop host, MUI and very little more) in Ultimate over Home Premium, just charge us the extra $100 for the non-Metro interface or something.

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