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tomasz86

Unofficial SP 5.2 for Microsoft Windows 2000 (WIP)

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2 hours ago, zcarrt said:

How can I add IE8 and WMP 11 in HFSLIP ?

To Windows 2000? That is unfortunately not possible :(

Unless new development has taken place in the last few months which I do not know about, the maximum you can get is IE6 SP1 with several IE6 SP3 files (already included in my updates list) and WMP10, but the later requires the BWC kernel and is itself non-slipstreamable.

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I have finally pushed a small update to my site and the Updates List for Windows 2000. I have added the IPv6 update mentioned by @Anixx and have also removed one old update that I found out to be obsolete. I have also been doing a lot of internal testings to check what files are exactly added by each update / hotfix in order to list them on the site later. I have also been working on the HFSLIP 2000 script a lot. I was actually motivated by the @bphlpt's comments and have started to rewrite many parts of the code. It takes time though so do not expect any quick updates in this field in the near future. You can follow the progress on GitHub.

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I know project is dead, and I tried to find it but i can't find Windows2000-UURollup-v10c-x86-ENU.exe

Is it still recommended to install this or no?

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1 hour ago, Destro said:

I know project is dead, and I tried to find it but i can't find Windows2000-UURollup-v10c-x86-ENU.exe

Is it still recommended to install this or no?

Isn't latest v11-d20141130?

http://sdfox7.com/2000/Important_EOL_Updates/

or you want specifically the very old v10c? :unsure:

tomasz86 has done (and it is doing) a lot of very good work :thumbup for the (unfortunately very few) people that still want to run 2K, but he has a "quirk" about "reorganizing" that resolves as moving everything from here to there, from there to elsewhere, deleting and removing files, making links obsolete, etc. etc. without leaving behind proper aechives, let alone clear, univocal, complete howto's. :(

Thank goodness, there is around Sdfox7 who keeps some bits and pieces "static" :).

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Ok thanks.  So i Guess the proceedure is.  Sp4+IE6+Dx9+Wmp+ect, etc+update Roll up 1 +all official post update 1 hotfix to 2010 + Unofficial Update Roll up 1 + KernelEX?  Am i more or less right?

 

Most people just throw away old computers, while I don't.  I'm not going to use 2000 on an everyday basis though.  i might use it for some lite classic gaming and I plan on putting an older copy of wsus on it. I maybe will run some legacy server applications on it to support my DOS boxes and stuff.   I have a legit copy of 2000 Server and this is the best use I can find for my old Dual PIII 1ghz workstation.  I got it as a computer dump for like 20 dollars about 15 years ago.  It's this http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/twin,243-3.html

It wont run recent OS very good, but i will fly on win2k.

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On 12/10/2017 at 3:52 AM, Destro said:

I know project is dead, and I tried to find it but i can't find Windows2000-UURollup-v10c-x86-ENU.exe

Is it still recommended to install this or no?

On 12/10/2017 at 7:41 AM, Destro said:

Ok thanks.  So i Guess the proceedure is.  Sp4+IE6+Dx9+Wmp+ect, etc+update Roll up 1 +all official post update 1 hotfix to 2010 + Unofficial Update Roll up 1 + KernelEX?  Am i more or less right?

I do not recommend using UURollup anymore. It is old and outdated now. The BlackWingCat's extended Core and extended Kernel are the modern solution for extending Windows 2000's capabilities. Mixing UURollup with them may work but I would not do it. UURollup will install old versions of the BlackWingCat's files, so you can never be sure what the result will be. Nevertheless, you can still find the old UURollup files in the depths of my Download Archive, if you really want to ;).

As for the other (official) updates, I recommend following my Updates Lists under http://windowsarchives.com/updates/. The only way to use all of them though is to slipstream everything with HFSLIP2000 and then install the OS from scratch. After that you can just install the BlackWingCat's packages manually.

 

On 12/10/2017 at 5:50 AM, jaclaz said:

tomasz86 has done (and it is doing) a lot of very good work :thumbup for the (unfortunately very few) people that still want to run 2K, but he has a "quirk" about "reorganizing" that resolves as moving everything from here to there, from there to elsewhere, deleting and removing files, making links obsolete, etc. etc. without leaving behind proper aechives, let alone clear, univocal, complete howto's. :(

Well, I must somewhat agree with what you are saying (although reluctantly :P). Especially in the beginning, I used to start a lot of small projects that ended up being scattered here and there (and thus difficult to manage). In my defence though, I can say that since around 2014 I have been trying to keep everything as concentrated and concised as possible. Correct me if I am wrong, but during the last 3 years the only major "reorganizations" were the forced domain change (which naturally broke all the old links) and the move to MEGA as the main file hosting (caused by the lack of space on Google Drive). I did discontinue and remove many old files with time because, well, most of them were just that, i.e. old, outdated, and obsolete.

At the moment there are really only two places where I am active, which are http://windowsarchives.com for all information and updates, and this very thread for other news and discussion. The only two unofficial projects that are still alive and not mentioned on my website are the combined .NET Framework installer (too experimental) and the HFSLIP2000 FullPack package (somewhat risky...). I am also aware that there is lack of proper how-to and I have been working on it. It is a one-man job though, so please understand :). I am always open to feedback and suggestions on how to improve the current state of things.

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how to could be easy.  Just make a video and put it on youtube.  Start from scratch in the video and then go through a complete build like you are doing it, in real life.  Then all someone has to do is watch the video.  You know just use a screen recording software and talk into it.

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18 hours ago, tomasz86 said:

... I did discontinue and remove many old files with time because, well, most of them were just that, i.e. old, outdated, and obsolete..

Exactly, but since you did that without PROPERLY documenting the changes, the end result is that half the internet points to "your" files that are nowhere to be found since you moved/renamed/deleted them.

How much would have costed to put *somewhere* on your current http://windowsarchives.com/updates/ a simple page saying:

18 hours ago, tomasz86 said:

I do not recommend using UURollup anymore. It is old and outdated now. The BlackWingCat's extended Core and extended Kernel are the modern solution for extending Windows 2000's capabilities. Mixing UURollup with them may work but I would not do it. UURollup will install old versions of the BlackWingCat's files, so you can never be sure what the result will be. Nevertheless, you can still find the old UURollup files in the depths of my Download Archive, if you really want to ;).

AND once having given people the above warning, actually provide a §@ç#ing working link instead of sending people on a treasure hunt or worse a wild goose chase?

The whole point of critique (not about you particularly, there are lots of people that do the same with their projects) is the deletion/erasure/removal of the past, something that is old (but that worked at the time) is not necessarily "worse" or - conversely - somethign that is new (even if it works) is not necessarily "better".

Someone that wanted to update Windows 2000 in 2013/2014 would have used the UUROLLUP? Yes.

Did it work just fine? Yes.

WHY (the heck) do you want anyone to be prevented from replicating that (and not another one [1]) success? :dubbio:

jaclaz

[1] just using the UUROLLUP is much easier IMHO than going the whole way of the HFSLIP routine.

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I think I am smart enough to go through the HFSLIP routine,   I have used NLITE and ryan VM for years to upgrade XP ISOs but I think kernelex for 2k doesn't give u all the unofficial updates provided UUrollup.  Would be a benefit to the community to make uuprollup more compatible with kernelEX then we have an all in one solution that makes 2k good.

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6 hours ago, jaclaz said:

[1] just using the UUROLLUP is much easier IMHO than going the whole way of the HFSLIP routine.

But UURollup was just a compilation of BlackWingCat's files plus several other XP/2003 files, fonts, etc. Hence the name "Unofficial Updates Rollup". It was never a replacement for the whole HFSLIP updates list! I think you may be thinking of the unofficial Update Rollup 2 which was indeed a compilation of the official M$ updates and hotfixes released between 2005-2010. The problem is that the package ended up buggy and there was no easy way to rebuild it as I had added all the updates manually, one by one. It was also not multilanguage and thus, all in all, inferior to the standard HFSLIP procedure of slipstreaming all the single updates.

I may indeed have to add such an explanatory note about the obsolete updates to prevent further confusion though.

 

1 hour ago, Destro said:

I think I am smart enough to go through the HFSLIP routine,   I have used NLITE and ryan VM for years to upgrade XP ISOs but I think kernelex for 2k doesn't give u all the unofficial updates provided UUrollup.  Would be a benefit to the community to make uuprollup more compatible with kernelEX then we have an all in one solution that makes 2k good.

As I said above, UURollup in its core was basically a compilation of the BlackWingCat's Extended Core and Kernel. It has no real advantage to the original packages, especially now, as the Extended Kernel has received a lot of updates in the meantime.

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On 12/10/2017 at 1:08 PM, tomasz86 said:

The only two unofficial projects that are still alive and not mentioned on my website are the combined .NET Framework installer (too experimental) and the HFSLIP2000 package (somewhat risky...).

Why do you say the HFSLIP2000 package isn't mentioned on your website?  And doesn't the HFSLIP2000 Full Package already include all of the individual updates?

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5 hours ago, bluebolt said:

Why do you say the HFSLIP2000 package isn't mentioned on your website?  And doesn't the HFSLIP2000 Full Package already include all of the individual updates?

Oops, I meant the FullPack not being mentioned on the site. The HFSLIP2000 script itself is, of course, the core component of the whole Updates List project :). I have actually been moving / rewriting the whole HFSLIP how-to to my site for the last few weeks, and hope to finish it soon.

I consider the FullPack risky, not to use though, but risky to overly advertise as there are some people who do not like the fact that M$ updates can be downloaded from 3rd party sources. At the moment it is also English only too.

 

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