[kvr1333d3n9]

My system is ;

Intel Board D845WN ( i845 chipset)
Pentium 4 (1700 mhz)
256 MB Ram (133 mhz)
GeForce Mx 100 / 200 (not windows 98 support)


I wanna buy 64 mb video card for windows 98. Which video card advice me to buy ?

Help me

This post has been edited by kvr1333d3n9: 29 April 2012 - 12:43 PM

[kvr1333d3n9]

GIGABYTE GA-622-32C 32 MB AGP

http://www.ebay.com....=item256778c2c7


above, Video card which is compatible for win98 and my system ?

[submix8c]

Yes, but you'll have to find suitable drivers. I had a Riva TNT2 M64 and played good-time getting the correct drivers. No longer have it though, so can't tell where I got it from.

Errr - look here (english) and select "Legacy" in the first pull-down and go from there.

[Foxbat]

GeForce Mx 100 / 200 SUPPORTS Windows 98.

The RIVA TNT 2 M64 will work for Windows 98, but it would be outclassed by your system. Depending on what you will be using it for, this will most likely be a bottleneck. You're better off sticking to your current video card.

For 64MB video cards, you can look at any video card from the Geforce3 and Geforce4 lines, and ATI Radeon 7200, 7500, 8500, 9000... I probably missed a few, but this is most of it.

Edited for grammar.

This post has been edited by Foxbat: 29 April 2012 - 11:43 PM

[Sfor]

I think this is a good reference to what graphic cards one can use in Windows 98: Compatible Hardware with Windows 9x

This post has been edited by Sfor: 02 May 2012 - 03:08 AM

[RFMasterX]

kvr1333d3n9, on 29 April 2012 - 12:55 PM, said:

GIGABYTE GA-622-32C 32 MB AGP

http://www.ebay.com....=item256778c2c7


above, Video card which is compatible for win98 and my system ?

Yes!
But,,, i use win98 many years and I 'll give you some more information. If you want to use only programs and
you want quality (not for games) Then I recommend you Matrox G400 DualHead, or G450...

But if you want to play some older games (from 2002, 03 and some from 2004 ) and watch DVDs
(And if you do not want your graphics card is causing problems such as: system freezing when
you shutdown the computer, system freezing when you "Restart in MS-DOS mode", "IO Protection fault"
and many other random problems)
Then i highly recommend you this card: http://www.ebay.com....=item588d136381
And
This drivers: http://www.nvidia.co...in9x_40.72.html

[Sfor]

I was very pleased with Matrox Dual Head card, as well. But, when I started to play with linux (Ubutu) it appeared the linux drivers do not handle Matrox very well. I was unable to force them to use the other monitor output on boot. So, I had to move to a Nvidia, as Ati seems to have issues with DOS mode switching.

[M()zart]

This video card is completely compatible with Windows 98. I have the same video card and it works greatly. I use drivers from NVidia ver. 4532. These provide substantially higher performance (with this video card) than the latest official or unofficial Win 98 drivers. I've tried several versions, these seem to cause the least number of bugs in games (though I was told that earlier versions can provide even higher performance with this video card, they seem to be more buggy.

[Rjecina]

Strongest video card with official support for Windows 98 is Nvidia 6800 AGP with max 256 MB. You can find that type of cards on Amazon.

If you want something slower than you can take Nvidia 6200 card like this which is in my thinking too expensive.

You are having even PCI version of that card, but I have not been reading on this site about Win 98 users which are using PCI version of Nvidia 6x00 card.

I am using Radeon 9600 which is very, very similar to this card.

Because of today prices for Nvidia 6x00 and Radeon 9x00 I do not see point in having only 64 MB or 128 MB on video card.

[RFMasterX]

Rjecina, on 06 May 2012 - 07:38 AM, said:

Strongest video card with official support for Windows 98 is Nvidia 6800 AGP with max 256 MB...

Yeah..But... Only if you are ready to ignore problems

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such as: system freezing when
you shutdown the computer, system freezing when you "Restart in MS-DOS mode", "IO Protection fault"
and many other random problems

Yes, I know what I am talking about. Here is a list of nvidia cards that i have:
GeForce 2 GTS 32 MB
GeForce 4 Ti 4400 128 MB
GeForce 4 MX440 SE 64MB
GeForce FX 5500 128 MB
GeForce 6800 GT 256 MB DDR3 256 Bit
GeForce 7600 GS 256 MB

And there is no driver or combinations that I have not tried(official or beta) but only the

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GeForce 2 GTS 32 MB
GeForce 4 Ti 4400 128 MB
GeForce 4 MX440 SE 64MB

worked without problems in Windows 98

[Rjecina]

Sorry, but problem of your computer is not Nvidia.

Saying that Nvidia products from 1998-2004 are not compatible with Windows 98 is weird, because Nvidia has become important corporation with this cards....

[halohalo]

RFMasterX, on 07 May 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

Rjecina, on 06 May 2012 - 07:38 AM, said:

Strongest video card with official support for Windows 98 is Nvidia 6800 AGP with max 256 MB...

Yeah..But... Only if you are ready to ignore problems

Quote

such as: system freezing when
you shutdown the computer, system freezing when you "Restart in MS-DOS mode", "IO Protection fault"
and many other random problems

With old Forceware 66.94, Nvidia 6800GT AGP works without problems mentioned above.

Games requiring shader model 3.0 can't run on Win98, so it is not necessary using Forceware Release 70 or 80.

This post has been edited by halohalo: 11 May 2012 - 11:43 AM

[RFMasterX]

halohalo, on 11 May 2012 - 11:38 AM, said:

With old Forceware 66.94, Nvidia 6800GT AGP works without problems mentioned above.

Games requiring shader model 3.0 can't run on Win98, so it is not necessary using Forceware Release 70 or 80.

Man, I am not complained about something , I'm just saying how things are.
If 6800 works for you without problems? Then lucky you.

kvr1333d3n9 asked: I wanna buy 64 mb video card for windows 98. Which video card advice me to buy ?
And my answers have been sent to him.

@All other
You can claim what you want, but the GeForce4 series of cards is the last that does not make problems in Win98,
this is what I experienced in practice on several machines. in accordance with this, I gave him the information
that I know are accurate. But of course you do not have to agree with that.

[loblo]

I have no experience with serie 6 cards but never had the kind of major issues reported by RFMasterX with either serie 5 or serie 7 ones.

[RFMasterX]

loblo, on 12 May 2012 - 04:07 PM, said:

I have no experience with serie 6 cards but never had the kind of major issues reported by RFMasterX with either serie 5 or serie 7 ones.

I think almost everyone here know how series 7 works
I do not talk that does not work, but i'm said that did not work stable, starting with the series 5
Of course, the problem is not in the cards, but in drivers.

[loblo]

RFMasterX, on 13 May 2012 - 12:36 AM, said:

loblo, on 12 May 2012 - 04:07 PM, said:

I have no experience with serie 6 cards but never had the kind of major issues reported by RFMasterX with either serie 5 or serie 7 ones.

I think almost everyone here know how series 7 works
I do not talk that does not work, but i'm said that did not work stable, starting with the series 5
Of course, the problem is not in the cards, but in drivers.

I have zero stability issues with either a 7800GS or a 7950GT on my system. I have used both long enough to be 100% certain of that. And the same goes for the FX5200 I had before that. I use the beta/unofficial 82.69 drivers and the only minor issues are 1) the well known shutdown issue with those drivers and 2) the 7950GT fan doesn't spin unless I force it to be always on in the NVidia control panel. (the 7950GT requires the rloew RAM patch to run at all as it's a 512MB card). 3) I had to downgrade nvopengl.dll to the 81.98 version to avoid non fatal but annoying crashes in Java applications using OpenGL.

Three different persons have now told you that in their experience what you are saying is wrong but you still insist on making the same sweeping generalization...

This post has been edited by loblo: 13 May 2012 - 05:54 AM

[RFMasterX]

Man, let me explain a little, here's the following situation, for example:
You have a computer with Win98 and everything is working properly
and then put in the computer card from a series of 5 or 6 or 7
and then switch to MS-DOS mode and then type EXIT and then
press ENTER and what happens then? Then the cursor just blinks
and nothing happens->frozen, it can not be returned to windows,
you have to press the RESET button, and you tell me that this is a
generalization? and tell me that this is not the problem?

I am accustomed to such things, but that's not good start for someone->kvr1333d3n9
who wants to try win98, because it will be faced with something they never expected
and then will spend a lot of time to find a solution.

that because I told him to purchase one card which certainly will not
make these problems.

END.

[loblo]

I use Win Me so I never switch to MS-Dos mode as there isn't such an option on this OS (Who does this anyway and for what purpose? ) so I grant you that there might be an issue here as I can't check this out myself. The freeze on shutdown of the computer affects only the latest drivers AFAIK and is a very minor issue IMO.

But then you've also mentioned, independently of the above, IO Protection fault and many other random problems... What are those? I have never encountered any of that, and let me tell you that if these were common issues with series 5, 6, and 7 we would have heard about them since a long time on here as there are more than a few people frequenting those forums who use those cards...

This post has been edited by loblo: 13 May 2012 - 08:03 AM

[RFMasterX]

loblo, on 13 May 2012 - 08:02 AM, said:

The freeze on shutdown of the computer affects only the latest drivers AFAIK and is a very minor issue IMO

It is "minor issue" for you, and for me, because we are accustomed to and we ignore that problem.
(And it not affects only the latest drivers, the same happens with the older drivers for the card from
the 6 Series, starting from this beta version 60.86) But I remember the time when this first happened
it was not a "minor issue".

loblo, on 13 May 2012 - 08:02 AM, said:

But then you've also mentioned, independently of the above, IO Protection fault and many other random problems... What are those? I have never encountered any of that, and let me tell you that if these were common issues with series 5, 6, and 7 we would have heard about them since a long time on here as there are more than a few people frequenting those forums who use those cards...

This is what happens frequently (for series 5 from time to time, somtimes, somtimes not)when you play games.

This post has been edited by RFMasterX: 13 May 2012 - 10:33 AM

[LoneCrusader]

loblo, on 13 May 2012 - 08:02 AM, said:

I use Win Me so I never switch to MS-Dos mode as there isn't such an option on this OS (Who does this anyway and for what purpose? ) so I grant you that there might be an issue here as I can't check this out myself.

The fact that few people do this does not make the error less significant. That is all a matter of opinion.

I don't use nVidia cards, so I can't address this specific issue. But if I encountered such problems with my ATI cards, I would certainly not be happy, and probably would not consider it "minor."