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Is there an autopatcher for 2000?

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I was thinking of installing 2000 on another machine but I haven't used 2000 before and I can't connect to the net with it to download the windows updates (if they're even still available). What I need is an autopatcher of sorts that includes SP4, that I can burn to a disk and install after I've installed the main OS. Does such a patch exist? I have one for 98se but I couldn't find anything for 2000.


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Unfortunately there's no such a package available (at least not yet :whistle:). If you want to have a fully updated system and you can't use Windows Update then the best way to do it is to slipstream everything into your source before installation. If you decide the use unofficial updates then the easiest way to slipstream all of them is to use UURollup (see the link in my signature). In case of the official ones you need to download them one by one...

The current list of W2K updates is available here.

If you don't feel like downloading ~300 updates then you can use Onepiece's Windows 2000 postSP4 Update Pack. It's very comprehensive but doesn't contain any unofficial updates and lacks most of the HBRs (hotfixes by request; the ones with yellow background present on the updates list mentioned above).

Edited by tomasz86, 08 May 2012 - 06:21 AM.

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"windows 2000 support ends july 13 2010"
The last (AFAIK) one available was Nov2009; I have August2009. Many links were "broken" and the MD5's were incorrect. Nobody there kept it up to date.
At AutoPatcherDOTcom there is a thread suggesting a possible solution using the ITA version, but very time consuming and error-prone.
Best bet is to use what was suggested above.

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Thanks for the quick response!

Okay, so let me see if I've got this in the right order.

1) Download MS SP4 and MS Update Rollup 1 from MS.

2) Then get Onepiece's Windows 2000 postSP4 Update Pack which contain the most of the updates after SP4.

3) Get the remaining official MS updates from the HTSLIP site.

4) Finally, get your RollUp containing the unofficial stuff.

I'm not that tech savvy, so this slipstream process sounds tricky. Can I just download and burn everything to a cd and install them that way? One other question, I have a laptop with 2000 and SP4, can I just export everything from the laptop to the PC via something like Nortons Ghost?

N.B. I was having a senior moment before when I said I've never used 2000. I have it on a laptop that was given to me, but not the cd (which I'm in the process of getting) and have hardly used it.

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You can transfer your Windows from the laptop to the PC but it's a very unrecommended option, especially if they use different SATA controllers. On the other hand, my own system has already survived three mainboard changes so... I must say that yes, it's possible :sneaky:

I'd recommend slipstreaming though. It's pretty simple in your case. I'm assuming you want to have ALL updates and hotfixes (both official and unofficial) and ALL other components like Silverlight, .NET Framework, etc. This is the simplest way to have EVERYTHING slipstreamed:

1) Download HFSLIP with all tools listed there.

2) Copy the "i386" folder and the three files "CDROM_IP.5", "CDROM_NT.5" & "CDROMSP4.TST" from your W2K Pro SP4 CD to HFSLIP's "SOURCE" folder.

3) Put the following files in your HFSLIP folders:

- Windows2000-UpdateRollup2-BETA-x86-ENU.exe (HF)
- Windows2000-UURollup-v9b-x86-ENU.exe (HF)
- all IE6/OE6 unofficial updates (green background) and HBRs (yellow background) listed here (folders differ)
- DirectX 9.0c Full Pack (skip the "KB935839-v5a" mentioned there) and 2631813 (both to HF)
- all MDAC 2.8 unofficial updates listed here and MDAC281-KB983838-x86-ENU.exe (all to HF)
- all WMP unofficial updates listed here (HF)
- "UPHClean-Setup.msi" & "rootsupd.exe" from the Other Programs table (folders differ)

4) In the HFSVCPACK_SW1 folder put:

Windows2000-KB829884-x86-Global.exe
Windows2000-KB896414-x86-ENU.EXE
Windows2000-XP-2003-MSRDP52-x86-ENU.exe
Windows2000-UU-KBz2603381-x86-Global.exe
Windows2000-UU-KB914783-KB974266-x86-ENU.exe
Windows Powershell 1.0 (Windows2000-UU-KB926139-v2-x86-ENU.exe)

5) Create a folder called "HFAAO" and put all addons listed here in it. Use short filenames for .NET Framework, ex. "NETFX40.cab" for .NET Framework 4.0, etc.

6) Run HFSLIP and wait until it's finished.

7) Run nLite and use it to integrate OnePiece's Update pack. You may also want to disable Windows File Protection (SFC) because unofficial updates break it anyway.

8) Create an ISO with nLite and burn it.

9) Install Windows 2000 from the CD.

I hope I've not missed anything :angel

Edited by tomasz86, 09 May 2012 - 04:53 AM.

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Thanks tomasz86 for spelling everything out. But I, and I'm sure others, can hardly wait until you are able to include all the above, or as much as possible, into a single updated SP5.2, or at least as few pieces as possible. I think you are right that those who still wish to use Win2K these days either want to have ALL updates and hotfixes (both official and unofficial) and ALL other components like Silverlight, .NET Framework, etc, ie EVERYTHING slipstreamed, or they want a minimal FDV files approach.

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Just a note...
If you have a non-SP4 Win2k, you'll need in step#2 above to make a step#2a (one between step#2 and step#3) for slipping the SP4 into it. HFSLIP can do that as well AFAICR.

BTW, either HFSLIP or nLite can do all of the above (AFAIK), but stick with the method given.

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@bphlpt
I've been trying to reduce the number of packages as much as possible but it's not easy ;) and USP 5.2 is still far far away.

@submix8c
HFSLIP can't integrate OnePiece's Update Pack. Before I'd thought it could but I tried some time ago and errors occured during the integration process. It's too complicated for HFSLIP. On the other hand nLite won't integrate directly updates that add new files to the Windows source, ex. UURollup.

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2000 is mentioned here: http://www.autopatcher.com/forums/ but it's not up-todate.

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Autopatcher was killed off by Microsoft's genuine software thingie.

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Autopatcher was killed off by Microsoft's genuine software thingie.

Nuh-uh... Not "killed". They had to rewrite it to download direct from MS instead of using "stored fixes" (in violation of... ). There is simply nobody who cares to bother with 2K there anymore. Any takers? Go there and learn the "ropes" and update the Scripts. Personally, I'm satisfied with what we have access to here...

Side note - be glad to supply the "last known (to me at least) list of "fixes" valid for Win2K. Haven't bothered with it since then but plan to in future for an old HP Server box...

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Update: I tried what Tomasz suggested but whether it was down to user error or something else, it wouldn't install properly. I ended up formatting the drive and installed 2000 without any unofficial patches, which worked. Then I finally got the internet working and installed SP4 and the MS RollUp from the MS site.

I assume since MS stopped support for 2000 2 years ago Windows Update is no longer an option. I got directed to an update page that prompted me to install a "new" updater / installer. I wasn't sure if that would work for 2000, so I left it.

Does "Onepiece's Windows 2000 postSP4 Update Pack" contain any updates that would conflict the official MS post SP4 RollUp? Should the order of installation be: SP4, MS RollUp and Onepiece's Pack OR SP4 and then install Onepiece's pack? I plan on installing Tomasz' unofficial UURollUp patch last. I just want to get the system updated with the "official" fixes first.

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<snip> USP 5.2 is still far far away.
<snip>HFSLIP can't integrate OnePiece's Update Pack. Before I'd thought it could but I tried some time ago and errors occured during the integration process. It's too complicated for HFSLIP. On the other hand nLite won't integrate directly updates that add new files to the Windows source, ex. UURollup.

Update: I tried what Tomasz suggested but whether it was down to user error or something else, it wouldn't install properly.

...or do you mean his Post#5? (Hmmm, tomasz86 is usually correct...)

I ended up formatting the drive and installed 2000 without any unofficial patches, which worked.

Go this route if you're having problems (read it thoroughly). Using this, I believe either HFSLIP or nLite could be used. :unsure:

BTW, if you download Fixes using a Downloader (e.g. Flashget and get the links AFTER canceling the Download and use Direct Link), you can "sort" the Fixes in nLite to ensure Install Order according to oldest->newest.

Normally, I tend to "shy away" from Update Packs (again, read the provided link).

edit - And since you already reinstalled, might I suggest that you "split" your HDD and do another install (the same way, or get a utility to "shrink" it, e.g. Gparted Live ISO burned to CD and booted to). That way you can "test" your SlipStreams (however you do it) on the second (to be defined) Primary Partition.

Edited by submix8c, 17 May 2012 - 09:10 AM.

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Are you sure you did EVERYTHING exactly as stated in #5? :unsure:

If you don't want to mess with many files you can just integrate OnePiece's Updates Pack and then install UURollup-v9b. This way you'll have all official updates, some HBRs and almost all unofficial updates.

If you've already installed the system then running Windows Update, letting it install everything and installing UURollup-v9b later is the simplest way to have your system updated.

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This is confusing. MS 2000 SP4 says: Date published: 2/26/2009 and the Update Rollup 1 for Windows 2000 SP4 says: Date published: 9/13/2005. So, the MS RollUp for SP4 is dated 4 years prior to the release of SP4?! I was hoping the release date would make it easier selecting the files I needed from the site you mentioned but no such luck.

I went through the OnePiece patch thread and found the following on page six:

Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:24 am

Hello,
can i use Windows 2000 SP4 ISO or do i need win 2000 SP4 With Rollupack (KB891861) ??
to use with this update pack ???

Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:28 am
rulluppack is included!


Would I be able to still use his patch or would it corrupt my system since I already have MS SP4 RollUp installed?

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SP4 is from 2003, UR1 is from 2005. Don't look at those dates on the M$ site.

You can't install OnePiece's pack in a running system! so the best way for you to update your system is to run Windows Update, install everything from there and then install UURollup.

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This is confusing. MS 2000 SP4 says: Date published: 2/26/2009 and the Update Rollup 1 for Windows 2000 SP4 says: Date published: 9/13/2005. So, the MS RollUp for SP4 is dated 4 years prior to the release of SP4?! I was hoping the release date would make it easier selecting the files I needed from the site you mentioned but no such luck.

(sigh...) If you look at the linked website under the column "Date" you'll find the REAL date. Do NOT trust MS "Date Published". Direct download (with FlashGet, which retains the FILE's Date) reveals
SP4=06/20/2003
and the
Rollup=08/16/2005.

1 - Download and Install FlashGet (FREE)
2 - Click the links to the "fixes" you want within the above link (bristols)
3 - Click "Download" and CANCEL it (STAY ON THE "THANK YOU" PAGE)
4 - In the "Thank You" page is another link ("if your download does not start...)
4a - RIGHT-CLICK and "Download Using FlashGet" (there will be a "where to download" as well)
Voila! The REAL Date!

IOW. the "Date Published" has NO correlation to the actual File Date!

P.S. You're mixing OnePiece with tomasz86 Rollups - they are DIFFERENT! Tomasz86 is suggesting using HIS! You are the one bringing up OnePiece (an entirely different person and project).

PLEASE just TRUST us!

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I think he's bringing up both OnePiece with tomasz86 because he probably wants it ALL, and up to date, in as few pieces as possible. (As do I :) ) And actually, tomasz86 also mentioned how to add OnePiece's pack up in post #5. Unfortunately for him, and me, no such combination exists yet. I have high hopes that tomasz86 will be able to complete USP5.2 and add in the extras that are in OnePiece's pack as well, or produce a companion pack with those items. Well, I can dream can't I? In the meantime, if the OP follows the instructions in post #5 EXACTLY, he should be fine.

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Are you sure you did EVERYTHING exactly as stated in #5? :unsure:

If you don't want to mess with many files you can just integrate OnePiece's Updates Pack and then install UURollup-v9b. This way you'll have all official updates, some HBRs and almost all unofficial updates.

If you've already installed the system then running Windows Update, letting it install everything and installing UURollup-v9b later is the simplest way to have your system updated.


No, I'm not 100% sure I did it right (novice here). That's why I said it may have been caused by a "user error" / me screwing up. :) The WU site says: "Get the latest Windows Update software. We've made improvements to our website. To download the new version of the software and begin using Windows Update, please click Install Now". Is this "update software" compatible with 2000?

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That would be the "Windows Update Agent" (AFAIK). Support for Win2K has been dropped, just like Win9x.

This used to claim Windows 2000 but no longer does. I assume you're attempting to verify that you have all Fixes installed?

edit - This one, however does...
And it is listed on the "bristols" link. :o

Edited by submix8c, 17 May 2012 - 01:03 PM.

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It looks like I missed a few posts here.

SP4 is from 2003, UR1 is from 2005. Don't look at those dates on the M$ site.

You can't install OnePiece's pack in a running system! so the best way for you to update your system is to run Windows Update, install everything from there and then install UURollup.


Okay. Thank you for the clarification tomasz.

(sigh...) If you look at the linked website under the column "Date" you'll find the REAL date. Do NOT trust MS "Date Published". Direct download (with FlashGet, which retains the FILE's Date) reveals
SP4=06/20/2003
and the
Rollup=08/16/2005.

1 - Download and Install FlashGet (FREE)
2 - Click the links to the "fixes" you want within the above link (bristols)
3 - Click "Download" and CANCEL it (STAY ON THE "THANK YOU" PAGE)
4 - In the "Thank You" page is another link ("if your download does not start...)
4a - RIGHT-CLICK and "Download Using FlashGet" (there will be a "where to download" as well)
Voila! The REAL Date!

IOW. the "Date Published" has NO correlation to the actual File Date!

P.S. You're mixing OnePiece with tomasz86 Rollups - they are DIFFERENT! Tomasz86 is suggesting using HIS! You are the one bringing up OnePiece (an entirely different person and project).

PLEASE just TRUST us!


I'll be sure to give that a go if the WU doesn't work. Re: OnePiece and tomasz rollups, yes I know they are different. Sorry if my posts were confusing or misleading. I appreciate the help.

I think he's bringing up both OnePiece with tomasz86 because he probably wants it ALL, and up to date, in as few pieces as possible.


Yes, that pretty much sums it up. I just get easily confused (or confuse others) when it comes to these things.

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re: WU - go to my previous post (the one before yours above).

Side note: I don't believe you'll get "everything in one whack" as far as a "Pack". Don't attempt to "overlap" between different authors' Update Packs. It will hose your installation. Stick with OnePiece, tomasz86, or manually via "bristols link". Best bet, try one, go to WU and "list" missing; try the other, go to WU and "list" - then compare. Get missing from "bristols". Make "Final" go to WU and check again.

You DO realize you're beating yourself up, don't you? Try tomasz86' method - he's usually right AND developing a brand spanky new pack, so he should know. ;)

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Just a quick note - WU works perfectly fine so don't worry. There are just no more updates for W2K anymore.

By the way, there's nothing wrong with mixing OnePiece's pack with UURollup :) You just have to slipstream UURollup using HFSLIP and then use nLite/RVMi to integrate OnePiece's Pack. Of course all this applies to slipstreaming, not manual installation.

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You were right tomasz, the WU worked perfectly. I had a look at your UURollup thread and there's an update section at the bottom which lists Windows2000-UU-HBR-KB950305-KB977225-x86-ENU. What type of add on is that? Also, I had a look at the Last Versions thread but noticed the last update was in 2009. I'd like to get the latest 2K compatible versions of Adobe Flash Player, Opera, Firefox, Avast, Msn etc but it doesn't list the version numbers. I know some of them are listed under "ongoing" but I don't know if I need any unofficial add ons to make them work or if they'll work with the current official updates I have now.

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KB950305-KB977225 is one of the updates/hotfixes which are not included in UURollup. They are not included because they cannot be slipstreamed directly (from HF folder in HFSLIP) and are available separately. On the W2K Updates List there are more such updates available (search for SW1 and SW2). Most of them are minor stuff but there are a few more important ones too. You may install them separately if you want.

As for the W2K compatible applications, I've been maintaining my own list but it's still very short at the moment. The ones you mentioned above (Flash Player, Opera, Firefox, Avast) all work fine although you need UURollup to install the newest Flash Player (I don't remember which exact DLL is necessary). The last version of MSN Messenger working in W2K was 7.x but you can always use aMSN. Windows Live Messenger is a bloatware anyway :lol:

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