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Here is you Laptop.
...and here is your documentation.

System chip set - Mobile Intel 945PM Express or Mobile Intel 945GM Express

The SP folder contents appear to be identical to the root folder contents (e.g. ICH5IDE.INF = ICH5ID2.INF). You just need the 945GM.INF.

BTW, the INF fileset that was provided to the Original Poster (by Ponch) is even newer than that and fits your Laptop as well (same filename as I just gave you).


Ponch supplied this so if I add the 'newer' 945gm inf to the nlite, do I also add my older inf ? The reason I ask is because the newer one doesn't look like it adds the usb..


Might I suggest you get your documentation to assist in obtaining the rest of your drivers? I also suggest you get the necessary Software from Dell as well (if needed).



I have the resource CD but other than that there isn't really any other software for it that I am aware of.


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Link #1 I gave (Your Laptop) - Go to the Bottom - Under "Support" Column, click "Drivers and Downloads, then Click "Laptops", then "Inspiron", then "E1705". VOILA!!! All of your drivers.

I see no USB Drivers per-se - please note ICH5 (6, etc) is a different chipset than 945GM. Don't confuse the two.

Link #2 is for the Documentation (may already be on your Resource CD).

Please note that -
1 - Resource CD is more than likely OLDER drivers than...
2 - What is on the Dell Website (updates since Dell issued the Rsrc-CD) and
3 - Usually there are (but not ALWAYS) Newer Drivers for a given piece of Hardware - Use ONLY the Newest! It serves NO PURPOSE to include Old then New. (Kind of like Installing WMP10 then WMP11...)

Going back to Link #2 - Specs -

six 4-pin USB 2.0-compliant connectors

This is in reference to the ICHxUSB "drivers" (which are for 82801) and XP generally provides USB except in special cases. If you don't see them on your Resource CD or the Dell Website, I'd say they are not for your Laptop.

Please note that Chipset Packages are just that - they are for MULTIPLE Chipsets (i.e. PACKAGES). For all that it matters, you can needlessly include ALL of them but the Install will only use what it FINDS that it NEEDS.

Do you already have XP installed on it? If so, try looking in the Device Manager. In there you will see SPECIFICALLY what Devices exist.

Finally, if you had downloaded the "Ponch" package and the associated docs, you would see that YES, it does indeed include EVERYTHING that you already "downloaded" except... NEWER! Just because it doesn't specifically state USB, has no bearing.

Go here and browse around. Heck I even have a VIA Chipset and my OS found the latest drivers.

Not to totally miss the boat, here is where Ponch undoubtedly found the Chipset Drivers. Look there too.

A "google" on E1705 and "USB Controller" implies the ICH7xxx.INF (82801G) set should be included.

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Finally, if you had downloaded the "Ponch" package and the associated docs, you would see that YES, it does indeed include EVERYTHING that you already "downloaded" except... NEWER! Just because it doesn't specifically state USB, has no bearing.



OK so I should just extract the "ponch" package zip and point the 945gm inf file to the nlite for my chipset driver ?

(I have all my other drivers from the dell site.)

Sorry man, I have basically very little knowledge about drivers (FYI) other than what they are for so my questions might seem pretty novice. Which is why I never included them in the nlite before.

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OK so I should just extract the "ponch" package zip and point the 945gm inf file to the nlite for my chipset driver ? (I have all my other drivers from the dell site.)

A "google" on E1705 and "USB Controller" implies the ICH7xxx.INF (82801G) set should be included.

(1+3=4 INF's)...and...

Do you already have XP installed on it? If so, try looking in the Device Manager. In there you will see SPECIFICALLY what Devices exist.

Edit - and the Packages you downloaded from Dell will be Drivers (need Unpacked - search MSFN for Universal Extractor) as well as Software you may/may-not need that probably can't be directly integrated without making an Add-On.

Edited by submix8c, 03 June 2012 - 04:09 PM.

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OK so I should just extract the "ponch" package zip and point the 945gm inf file to the nlite for my chipset driver ? (I have all my other drivers from the dell site.)

A "google" on E1705 and "USB Controller" implies the ICH7xxx.INF (82801G) set should be included.

(1+3=4 INF's)...and...

Do you already have XP installed on it? If so, try looking in the Device Manager. In there you will see SPECIFICALLY what Devices exist.

Edit - and the Packages you downloaded from Dell will be Drivers (need Unpacked - search MSFN for Universal Extractor) as well as Software you may/may-not need that probably can't be directly integrated without making an Add-On.



Just to be clear about the = "1+3=4 INF's," all the xp inf's are in the same folder so that's why I asked about pointing the 945gm inf at the nlite. The same folder has the ich7core inf as well but my original driver has ich7usb,
and ich7ide as well but the 'ponch' driver doesn't, the closest thing it has (by name) is ich78usb and ich78ide...

; ****************************************************************************
; ****************************************************************************
; ** Filename: ICH78USB.INF
; ** Abstract: Windows* INF Update File
; ** Intel® 82801 USB devices
; ** Last Update: August 05, 2009 (Version 9.1.1 Build 1016)
; ****************************************************************************
; ****************************************************************************


So im assuming that is the right one ? ..and to just point the content of that folder to the nlite,correct ?

EDIT:

Do you already have XP installed on it? If so, try looking in the Device Manager. In there you will see SPECIFICALLY what Devices exist.


Yes, I do have XP on this Computer.

Here is what was inside Device Manager:

In this section: IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers

Intel 82801GBM/GHM (ICHC-M Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller-27c4

In this section: System Devices:

Intel 82801 PCI Bridge -2448
Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express RootPort - 27D0
Intel 82801G (ICH Family) PCI Express RootPort - 27D6
Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller - 27DA
Intel 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Controller - 27B9


Mobile Intel 955XM/945GM/PM/GMS/940GML Express PCI Express RootPort -27A1
Mobile Intel 955XM/945GM/PM/GMS/940GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller - 27AO



In this section: Universal Serial Bus controllers

Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family)USB Universal Host Controller - 27C8
Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family)USB Universal Host Controller - 27c9
Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family)USB Universal Host Controller - 27CA
Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family)USB Universal Host Controller - 27CB
Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family)USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 27CC


Edited by aliceinchains, 04 June 2012 - 09:48 AM.


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(sigh...)

submix8c, on 03 June 2012 - 01:34 PM, said:
A "google" on E1705 and "USB Controller" implies the ICH7xxx.INF (82801G) set should be included.

where xxx means ANY of the characters there (even xxxx or xxxxxx).

It appears that every single item you listed is in that SET of INF's.

Do what I said! The
945GM.INF ( 1 )
and the ( + )
ICH7xxx.INF Set (ALL of them) ( 3 ... and now... 4! )
ONLY FROM FOLDER "ALL"!!!! ( = OMG!!! 4! ... and now... 5! )

I WAS after all going with YOUR original "ZIP" ( =4 ) file!!!

This is NOT that complex! Follow Instructions TO THE LETTER! The "Ponch" ( =5 ) Set is just NEWER and includes support for NEWER DEVICES (hence the "xxxx" name changes)!

Edited by submix8c, 05 June 2012 - 12:27 PM.

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lol B) Thank you submix8c ... Appreciate all your help.

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Optional - In Step#4 - go to here (READ it) and get ONLY the Updates (DO NOT Integrate WMP11 or IE7 or IE8 at this time - you will get even MORE confused) - BEFORE clicking "next", SORT the HotFixes by Ascending Date. This step will get you fully up-to-date as-of the date specified. NO OPTIONALS are provided (i.e. "Add-ons").
Also browse through the nLite screenshots to get a better idea.

Hi submix8c :) how are you?
Well I've follwed your links and run the batch file and it downloaded ALL those files. So must i delete the 3 files under "Needed for Windows Update" (WGA validation and so on...)?
I don't want to integrate WMP or IE. Have i to delete other ones of those files?
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No, don't delete those. They are needed for Windows Update. Unless of course you want to waste time by having Windows Update install them on first visit.

Download all Windows XP Post SP3 High-Priority Updates with a simple double click @ xdot.tk post-12166-0-42859000-1399044129.png ]
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followup to -X-'s post -

Don't delete ANYTHING! IEv6 and WMPv9 are part of the XP Install already! All Updates you "downloaded" are necessary! Anything in "footnotes" or any other posts on WMP10 or ANYTHING above/beyond Basic XP are considered 'Extra Add-Ons". And before you ask... Flash Player IS provided on your "original CD" (i.e. NOT "extra/add-on") and MUST/should be updated with the Adobe Flash Player Update! -X- Updates are solely for anything ALREADY in the I386 Folder.

Integrate along with that your Drivers and you are Installed, Up-To-Date, but WITHOUT Extras/Add-Ons.

side note - and YES! DotNet is an Add-on! (Notice it in a separated CD Folder?)

Edited by submix8c, 11 June 2012 - 11:01 AM.

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Hi all,
Finally i've finished my totally unattended win xp cd with sp3, hotfixes, netframework2.0 and my drivers. During the .iso creation something went wrong because i've received an error repeated several times regarding hotfixes: "Hotfix integration failed". These are the ones who weren't integrated: KB2564958, 898461, 2570947, 2603381, 2633952, 2661637, 2695962, 2686509.

Honestly i didn't care very much of this errors and then i've run winlite.iso on virtual box but something's gone wrong because it seems it did no driver integration, but the sp3 was correctly integrated.

Any ideas? :)

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Any ideas?

Yes! From the very top of this page...

If you are having issues with Windows after removing components and have come to ask for help, please attach (not paste) your Last Session.ini file to your post to facilitate quicker assistance.

Whether you "remove components or not" is irrelevant - we still need to see what you did... Some Components can't be removed and then expect Hot-fixes to integrate into "something you removed"...

Ummm... were you running a Real-Time Anti-Virus Software during the nLite run? NEVER do that as the A-V Software MIGHT interrupt execution. Temporarily turn it off or "exclude" the nLite folder...

Those should have slipped AND I have no clue as to the reason why Drivers didn't integrate (mine do). Attach that INI file...

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... Some Components can't be removed and then expect Hot-fixes to integrate into "something you removed"...

Ummm... were you running a Real-Time Anti-Virus Software during the nLite run? NEVER do that as the A-V Software MIGHT interrupt execution. Temporarily turn it off or "exclude" the nLite folder...

Those should have slipped AND I have no clue as to the reason why Drivers didn't integrate (mine do). Attach that INI file...


Hi submix8c :)

Firstly let me apologize for not having seen the red message! :blushing:

Here are the ini files. Please note that some words within them are in italian.

Well, I honestly don't remember good if my avira antivir real protection was switched on during that nlite process... sorry again. I'll learn for next time :thumbup

Thanks again :)

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Edited by gipsyshadow, 21 June 2012 - 05:27 AM.


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REMOVE "LAST SESSION_U.INI"!!! NoNo!!!

; nLite private info
; (don't post it on the net, it's not important for debugging)

SERIOUSLY (look inside it)!!! NOW!!!
Checking contents of the other one (leave it)... other members may appear to assist...

edit - Download count was TWO!!! that was me (by mistake)... Hope nobody else got it...

edit2 -
It appears that MAYBE you are making the same mistake that many make when integrating HotFixes.... In the "Add Hotfixes" part, the List is presented when you add them. At the Top of the List, you need to Sort them by Date Ascending.

Also a VERY important question... Is this a Non-English XP Source? If so, you may need the Language Files for the language it's in...

As far as your "test" in "Virtual Box" (or even "MS-Virtual PC"), your Drivers will be probably be different than what's integrated. I personally have never used "Virtual Box" BUT... see this for example Audio Settings. There is also (below that) a link to "Virtual Networking". You would need Drivers compatible with "Virtual Box" added to your ISO as well if you want to use that Virtual Software.

Edited by submix8c, 19 June 2012 - 04:15 PM.

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Hi submix8c :)

(don't post it on the net, it's not important for debugging)SERIOUSLY (look inside it)!!! NOW!!!

I'm really sorry for LAST SESSION_U.INI. I did not read it before posting. I hope the moderators will accept my apologizes.

It appears that MAYBE you are making the same mistake that many make when integrating HotFixes.... In the "Add Hotfixes" part, the List is presented when you add them. At the Top of the List, you need to Sort them by Date Ascending.

I remeber I got some doubts about ordering hotfixes and cabbed netframework2.0 because I remember some of them (2 or 3) had no date; so how should I order them?

Also a VERY important question... Is this a Non-English XP Source? If so, you may need the Language Files for the language it's in...

Yes, it's an Italian XP source and I guess for this reason some things were named in english and some ones in italian when I tried the OS within VBox; so where can i find Language files for italian and how/where must i integrate them in nlite?

As far as your "test" in "Virtual Box" (or even "MS-Virtual PC"), your Drivers will be probably be different than what's integrated. I personally have never used "Virtual Box" BUT... see this for example Audio Settings. There is also (below that) a link to "Virtual Networking". You would need Drivers compatible with "Virtual Box" added to your ISO as well if you want to use that Virtual Software.

If Virtual Box is not best machine for my test, what do you suggest to use to avoid other complications? What virtual machine do you use?

Thanks a lot :D

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MS Virtual PC 2007 uses "known to XP" drivers but is limited in the way of hardware - No USB, Specific Hardware (no way to change e.g. Audio Device).

I can't recommend to you which Virtual Machine software to use. No matter what, this will NOT prove whether your drivers integrated properly. You can, however, look in the nLited Target Directory and/or the created ISO and see if you have a folder named "NLDRV" inside the "I386" folder. These will be your drivers you integrated. Inspect the contents to confirm that the are the same as what was in the original folders. nLite copies them into it then sets up several other INF files in the I386 folder to allow them to be "found" during Install.

Look here for a couple of Tips on "Integration Failure".

Possibly, add the non-Dated ones last. First, select ALL non-Add-Ons (i.e. all that have EXE suffix) and IF you are integrating IE8, do NOT add those yet (or just find them and remove them, SORT the set in the nLite window, then ADD individually IE8 and THEN the IE8 Hotfixes (one by one), THEN add ALL of the Add-Ons (non-EXE suffixes). DO NOT RESORT AFTER THE FIRST SORT! This method works very well for me.

As for Italian-specific Hotfixes, I don't really know. I can tell you that many/most are "language neutral" and still use the ENU version (but are NOT ENU-specific, rather "language neutral"). Unless someone else has a "list" the easiest way is to go to each individual KB in the list, change to "Italian" and see if it offers a non-ENU file, cancel the download if it does, and copy/save the link given in that screen. This is the link that would need to be replaced in the UDC file (which is specifically for English XP).

HTH

edit - google search "OnePiece Windows XP Post-SP3 AggiornatoPack" - good luck on that! Latest version WAS (AFAIK) ... v5.7.0 (11 Aprile 2012)

Edited by submix8c, 21 June 2012 - 08:47 AM.

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Hi submix8c and other folks :D

I've just run this new winlite.iso version in virtual box and it seems I've solved my language pack problems: I just downloaded an italian language pack from nlite.it! So no matter about sorting ;) then I added cabbed netframework for last (there were only theese 2 files in nilte hotfixes window) because it has no data, as you suggested :) The integration process went good.

No matter what, this will NOT prove whether your drivers integrated properly

Are you telling that it is not possible to verify the correct drivers installation with any virtual machine? Really? I guess because drivers integration is a very very easy to success process in nlite; maybe is this the reason?
Anyway I verified in NLDRV folder there're all the subfolders and files drivers-named like :)

For last question I'd want to ask if there're critical/favourite/interesting tests to carry on within the virtual machine to ensure the nlited windows copy works properly and gets no bad surprises for the real one. how do you test it?

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No matter what, this will NOT prove whether your drivers integrated properly

Are you telling that it is not possible to verify the correct drivers installation with any virtual machine? Really? I guess because drivers integration is a very very easy to success process in nlite; maybe is this the reason?
Anyway I verified in NLDRV folder there're all the subfolders and files drivers-named like :)

For last question I'd want to ask if there're critical/favourite/interesting tests to carry on within the virtual machine to ensure the nlited windows copy works properly and gets no bad surprises for the real one. how do you test it?

Explanation - VM's create/utilize "fake computers" of which are NOT the same hardware as the "real computer".

For "fake computer" (in VM eg. Virtual PC or VirtualBox or ANY OTHER TYPE SOFTWARE) you need to ADDITIONALLY add Drivers for THAT VM'S "FAKE HARDWARE"! The REAL Drivers will NOT be used in a VM/VPC and will NOT SHOW IN DEVICE MANAGER (they don't exist)!!!!

The REAL drivers SHOULD (mind you SHOULD if CORRECT ONES for REAL COMPUTER) be used AND the Hardwre WILL BE IN DEVICE MANAGER!

Clear explanation?

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Explanation - VM's create/utilize "fake computers" of which are NOT the same hardware as the "real computer".


Of course, it was so obvious! My ignorance is limitless :P
So thank you again for all your help, explanations and patience. i guess you're a nice person for the help you provide to users here ;) Have a nice day :hello:




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