[aliceinchains]

submix8c, on 31 May 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

1 - Yes, you can "delete" those, BUT, to do a "Repair Install" you MAY need the UPG folder. There SHOULD be an additional "DOTNETFX" folder. Why you may want to go this extreme I'm not sure. Integrating SP2 (directly) will NOT increase the Image beyond fitting on a CD. I suggested creating a "JUST LIKE AN SP3 PRE-INTEGRATED" for the purpose of NOT repeating the WHOLE PROCESS in case of Integrating HotFixes and Drivers AND "tweaks" LATER. Basically, "simulating" having a "PRE-INTEGRATED"!
1a - "Almost" PreIntegrated (using nLite or Manual - preferably nLite)
1b - Repeat nLite using 1a doing whatever your heart desires.

I already created the sp3 cd source so I have moved on. Not cutting anything from that. After adding my drivers, I want to slim it down,that's all.

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2 - The EXACT "INF" depends on your Dell PC Model - you never said what it was. Each INF is for a different ChipSet. YES the ChipSet First.

Dell e1705 laptop.

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3 - Try using the "Edit" button on your posts. Please don't Create Another Post One Behind The Other! You'll still get noticed. Only Create a NEW post when following ANOTHER poster's post.

Sorry.. I was going to delete it but it was to late.

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4 - You CAN "Integrate" (AFAIK) just Drivers into your Dell OEM MCE2005. Just don't attempt to Integrate SP3, Hotfixes, etc. JUST the Drivers. Otherwise, you can do what you want to with the Pro Retail (non-MCE2005) but it WON'T be pre-Activated (that's an OEM/Volume License thing).

As I said before, I'm not bothering with my MCE disc.




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aliceinchains, on 31 May 2012 - 06:18 PM, said:

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3 - Try using the "Edit" button on your posts. Please don't Create Another Post One Behind The Other! You'll still get noticed. Only Create a NEW post when following ANOTHER poster's post.

Sorry.. I was going to delete it but it was to late.

That's why he suggested you use the "Edit Post" button. It's never too late for that, you can edit it the next day or whenever. At the bottom of your post just put "EDIT: ..." and add whatever you wanted to say. If you want to change something you already posted, you can either delete and rewrite it, or strike through what you want to change and add in the new stuff. Editing your post is almost always preferred to consecutive posts.

Cheers and Regards

[aliceinchains]

Here is my chipset http://tc.versiontra...07.2.2.1006.zip

Dell e1705 ..

EDIT : Hey submix8c, I appreciate all your help, you,-X- and a few other dudes here have been a wealth of information, but don't bother looking into this, I spent some time and figured out that I don't need the 'SP' folder...

I also did my driver integration and everything worked out perfect..

This post has been edited by aliceinchains: 01 June 2012 - 12:00 PM

[submix8c]

Here is you Laptop.
...and here is your documentation.

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System chip set - Mobile Intel 945PM Express or Mobile Intel 945GM Express

The SP folder contents appear to be identical to the root folder contents (e.g. ICH5IDE.INF = ICH5ID2.INF). You just need the 945GM.INF.

BTW, the INF fileset that was provided to the Original Poster (by Ponch) is even newer than that and fits your Laptop as well (same filename as I just gave you).

Might I suggest you get your documentation to assist in obtaining the rest of your drivers? I also suggest you get the necessary Software from Dell as well (if needed).

Come back and ask for help if you need it, but please do a little work yourself first. We assist here, not hand things on a silver platter. (Not trying to be a smart-a$$, just stating fact - we get annoyed when folks don't put any effort into their own project).

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[aliceinchains]

submix8c, on 01 June 2012 - 11:58 AM, said:

The SP folder contents appear to be identical to the root folder contents (e.g. ICH5IDE.INF = ICH5ID2.INF). You just need the 945GM.INF.

Well, this is what I was stuck on because at first glance, the one has a 2 in it, the other does not. Why intel would make a duplicate and put it in separate folder with the same stuff didn't make any sense to me which is why I was inquiring about it.

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Come back and ask for help if you need it, but please do a little work yourself first. We assist here, not hand things on a silver platter. (Not trying to be a smart-a$$, just stating fact - we get annoyed when folks don't put any effort into their own project).

It was a valid question and I put effort in it.. I didn't find but one place with someone asking why intel puts the SP folder in and with no answer there too.

[submix8c]

I answered the question AFAICT. You tell ME what was in Intel's minds... My clairvoyance button is currently broken.

Reread previous post (I hi-lited a portion).

Go with it!!!!!

[aliceinchains]

submix8c, on 01 June 2012 - 02:39 PM, said:

I answered the question AFAICT. You tell ME what was in Intel's minds... My clairvoyance button is currently broken.

Ugh... No, the "VALID QUESTION" was whether or not to add the contents of the SP folder based on the fact that they were labeled slightly different, Understand ? (e.g. ICH5IDE.INF vs. ICH5ID2.INF). 'That' was the valid question !

(yes I know the answered 'NOW' so no need to answer it again )

If you are going to give me a speech about doing some homework before I ask a question then try and focus on what I actually write.. Now I'm not trying to be an a$$ either but try and be a little less "clever" in your posts....




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[submix8c]

Googled - intel inf "sp folder" (221 results)
http://www.google.co...folder%22&hl=en

Google gave this on MSFN. That is the best answer I can give.

I focused on the question which I indicated was irrelevant. You did not do your homework if I found the answer in a matter of minutes.

Please focus instead on your project with accurate answers (and links) given. Also please stick to a single thread. It's not easy bouncing.

edit - ICH5xxxx is not even pertaining to your Laptop... irrelevant.

edit2 (from README.TXT)

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NOTE: The sub directories (e.g. SP) contains special INFs.

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[aliceinchains]

submix8c, on 01 June 2012 - 05:23 PM, said:

Googled - intel inf "sp folder" (221 results)
http://www.google.co...folder%22&hl=en

Funny thing about "results",eh ? They aren't always answers,if ya know what I mean.

For example,

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Google gave this on MSFN. That is the best answer I can give.

I came to that same post in my google search too (isn't that a coincident ?) Unfortunately, I didn't find

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"Either way, I'll try with both and see how it goes."

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"with new release of infs, the ones in sp folders are newer than the other out side the sp folder."

to be conclusive ..


But I won't say that post wasn't insightful. For instance, did you realize when that guy asked pretty much the same identical question that I did, the other guy didn't ask for him to list his computer,driver chipset,or any other of the prerequisites that you ask for ?

EDIT: It was a valid question and I did research it submix.. If you figured it out faster than me,well then that makes sense considering you are a computer guru and I am not.

Anyway, you did supply great information and I am grateful.. Peace to you. (Sorry for my less than tactful reply earlier.)...


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This post has been edited by aliceinchains: 02 June 2012 - 04:01 AM

[aliceinchains]

accidental duplicate.

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[aliceinchains]

submix8c, on 01 June 2012 - 11:58 AM, said:

Here is you Laptop.
...and here is your documentation.

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System chip set - Mobile Intel 945PM Express or Mobile Intel 945GM Express

The SP folder contents appear to be identical to the root folder contents (e.g. ICH5IDE.INF = ICH5ID2.INF). You just need the 945GM.INF.

BTW, the INF fileset that was provided to the Original Poster (by Ponch) is even newer than that and fits your Laptop as well (same filename as I just gave you).

Ponch supplied this so if I add the 'newer' 945gm inf to the nlite, do I also add my older inf ? The reason I ask is because the newer one doesn't look like it adds the usb..

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Might I suggest you get your documentation to assist in obtaining the rest of your drivers? I also suggest you get the necessary Software from Dell as well (if needed).

I have the resource CD but other than that there isn't really any other software for it that I am aware of.

[submix8c]

Link #1 I gave (Your Laptop) - Go to the Bottom - Under "Support" Column, click "Drivers and Downloads, then Click "Laptops", then "Inspiron", then "E1705". VOILA!!! All of your drivers.

I see no USB Drivers per-se - please note ICH5 (6, etc) is a different chipset than 945GM. Don't confuse the two.

Link #2 is for the Documentation (may already be on your Resource CD).

Please note that -
1 - Resource CD is more than likely OLDER drivers than...
2 - What is on the Dell Website (updates since Dell issued the Rsrc-CD) and
3 - Usually there are (but not ALWAYS) Newer Drivers for a given piece of Hardware - Use ONLY the Newest! It serves NO PURPOSE to include Old then New. (Kind of like Installing WMP10 then WMP11...)

Going back to Link #2 - Specs -

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six 4-pin USB 2.0-compliant connectors

This is in reference to the ICHxUSB "drivers" (which are for 82801) and XP generally provides USB except in special cases. If you don't see them on your Resource CD or the Dell Website, I'd say they are not for your Laptop.

Please note that Chipset Packages are just that - they are for MULTIPLE Chipsets (i.e. PACKAGES). For all that it matters, you can needlessly include ALL of them but the Install will only use what it FINDS that it NEEDS.

Do you already have XP installed on it? If so, try looking in the Device Manager. In there you will see SPECIFICALLY what Devices exist.

Finally, if you had downloaded the "Ponch" package and the associated docs, you would see that YES, it does indeed include EVERYTHING that you already "downloaded" except... NEWER! Just because it doesn't specifically state USB, has no bearing.

Go here and browse around. Heck I even have a VIA Chipset and my OS found the latest drivers.

Not to totally miss the boat, here is where Ponch undoubtedly found the Chipset Drivers. Look there too.

A "google" on E1705 and "USB Controller" implies the ICH7xxx.INF (82801G) set should be included.

[aliceinchains]

submix8c, on 03 June 2012 - 11:34 AM, said:

Finally, if you had downloaded the "Ponch" package and the associated docs, you would see that YES, it does indeed include EVERYTHING that you already "downloaded" except... NEWER! Just because it doesn't specifically state USB, has no bearing.

OK so I should just extract the "ponch" package zip and point the 945gm inf file to the nlite for my chipset driver ?

(I have all my other drivers from the dell site.)

Sorry man, I have basically very little knowledge about drivers (FYI) other than what they are for so my questions might seem pretty novice. Which is why I never included them in the nlite before.

[submix8c]

aliceinchains, on 03 June 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

OK so I should just extract the "ponch" package zip and point the 945gm inf file to the nlite for my chipset driver ? (I have all my other drivers from the dell site.)

submix8c, on 03 June 2012 - 11:34 AM, said:

A "google" on E1705 and "USB Controller" implies the ICH7xxx.INF (82801G) set should be included.

(1+3=4 INF's)...and...

submix8c, on 03 June 2012 - 11:34 AM, said:

Do you already have XP installed on it? If so, try looking in the Device Manager. In there you will see SPECIFICALLY what Devices exist.

Edit - and the Packages you downloaded from Dell will be Drivers (need Unpacked - search MSFN for Universal Extractor) as well as Software you may/may-not need that probably can't be directly integrated without making an Add-On.

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[aliceinchains]

submix8c, on 03 June 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

aliceinchains, on 03 June 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

OK so I should just extract the "ponch" package zip and point the 945gm inf file to the nlite for my chipset driver ? (I have all my other drivers from the dell site.)

submix8c, on 03 June 2012 - 11:34 AM, said:

A "google" on E1705 and "USB Controller" implies the ICH7xxx.INF (82801G) set should be included.

(1+3=4 INF's)...and...

submix8c, on 03 June 2012 - 11:34 AM, said:

Do you already have XP installed on it? If so, try looking in the Device Manager. In there you will see SPECIFICALLY what Devices exist.

Edit - and the Packages you downloaded from Dell will be Drivers (need Unpacked - search MSFN for Universal Extractor) as well as Software you may/may-not need that probably can't be directly integrated without making an Add-On.

Just to be clear about the = "1+3=4 INF's," all the xp inf's are in the same folder so that's why I asked about pointing the 945gm inf at the nlite. The same folder has the ich7core inf as well but my original driver has ich7usb,
and ich7ide as well but the 'ponch' driver doesn't, the closest thing it has (by name) is ich78usb and ich78ide...

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; ****************************************************************************
; ****************************************************************************
; ** Filename: ICH78USB.INF
; ** Abstract: Windows* INF Update File
; ** Intel® 82801 USB devices
; ** Last Update: August 05, 2009 (Version 9.1.1 Build 1016)
; ****************************************************************************
; ****************************************************************************

So im assuming that is the right one ? ..and to just point the content of that folder to the nlite,correct ?

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Do you already have XP installed on it? If so, try looking in the Device Manager. In there you will see SPECIFICALLY what Devices exist.

Yes, I do have XP on this Computer.

Here is what was inside Device Manager:

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In this section: IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers

Intel 82801GBM/GHM (ICHC-M Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller-27c4

In this section: System Devices:

Intel 82801 PCI Bridge -2448
Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express RootPort - 27D0
Intel 82801G (ICH Family) PCI Express RootPort - 27D6
Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller - 27DA
Intel 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Controller - 27B9


Mobile Intel 955XM/945GM/PM/GMS/940GML Express PCI Express RootPort -27A1
Mobile Intel 955XM/945GM/PM/GMS/940GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller - 27AO



In this section: Universal Serial Bus controllers

Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family)USB Universal Host Controller - 27C8
Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family)USB Universal Host Controller - 27c9
Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family)USB Universal Host Controller - 27CA
Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family)USB Universal Host Controller - 27CB
Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family)USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 27CC

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[submix8c]

(sigh...)

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submix8c, on 03 June 2012 - 01:34 PM, said:
A "google" on E1705 and "USB Controller" implies the ICH7xxx.INF (82801G) set should be included.

where xxx means ANY of the characters there (even xxxx or xxxxxx).

It appears that every single item you listed is in that SET of INF's.

Do what I said! The
945GM.INF ( 1 )
and the ( + )
ICH7xxx.INF Set (ALL of them) ( 3 ... and now... 4! )
ONLY FROM FOLDER "ALL"!!!! ( = OMG!!! 4! ... and now... 5! )

I WAS after all going with YOUR original "ZIP" ( =4 ) file!!!

This is NOT that complex! Follow Instructions TO THE LETTER! The "Ponch" ( =5 ) Set is just NEWER and includes support for NEWER DEVICES (hence the "xxxx" name changes)!

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[aliceinchains]

lol Thank you submix8c ... Appreciate all your help.

[gipsyshadow]

submix8c, on 27 May 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

Optional - In Step#4 - go to here (READ it) and get ONLY the Updates (DO NOT Integrate WMP11 or IE7 or IE8 at this time - you will get even MORE confused) - BEFORE clicking "next", SORT the HotFixes by Ascending Date. This step will get you fully up-to-date as-of the date specified. NO OPTIONALS are provided (i.e. "Add-ons").
Also browse through the nLite screenshots to get a better idea.

Hi submix8c how are you?
Well I've follwed your links and run the batch file and it downloaded ALL those files. So must i delete the 3 files under "Needed for Windows Update" (WGA validation and so on...)?
I don't want to integrate WMP or IE. Have i to delete other ones of those files?
see you

[-X-]

No, don't delete those. They are needed for Windows Update. Unless of course you want to waste time by having Windows Update install them on first visit.

[submix8c]

followup to -X-'s post -

Don't delete ANYTHING! IEv6 and WMPv9 are part of the XP Install already! All Updates you "downloaded" are necessary! Anything in "footnotes" or any other posts on WMP10 or ANYTHING above/beyond Basic XP are considered 'Extra Add-Ons". And before you ask... Flash Player IS provided on your "original CD" (i.e. NOT "extra/add-on") and MUST/should be updated with the Adobe Flash Player Update! -X- Updates are solely for anything ALREADY in the I386 Folder.

Integrate along with that your Drivers and you are Installed, Up-To-Date, but WITHOUT Extras/Add-Ons.

side note - and YES! DotNet is an Add-on! (Notice it in a separated CD Folder?)

This post has been edited by submix8c: 11 June 2012 - 11:01 AM