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Im new here,hello. What is best way for unattended Windows install ? I reed tutorial about unattended install at here http://unattended.ms....xp/view/web/1/ and I goto download nlite application and reed so very easy and I see about driverpacks here http://driverpacks.n...uide-windows-xp and it read,

1.RyanVM Integrator
2.nLite
3.DriverPacks BASE

Which is best way so that I do correctly, thank you.

My question received answer from Username submix8c

First, it's a matter of opinion. Use what method/tool you like best.


I do not know what I like best because I am at beginner User level on http://unattended.ms....xp/view/web/1/ and have only downloaded nlite tool. I would like to know beforehand by experience user which integrator works best way. I have created my windows xp source (XPCD) and downloaded nlite tool.

No experience with RyanVM integrator.


Edit by me for fix links.

Edited by O0o0O0O0o, 03 June 2012 - 10:34 PM.

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The "Unattended" you have linked to is mostly for Manually doing things and a Tutorial on the various items related to Unattended

This gives nLite screenshots that directly relate to the Unattended link. It additionally gives Downloads to be used with nLite.

RyanVM Integrator is another Integration tool.

Finally, there is (was) a tool here called HFSLIP. Where it can be downloaded I have no clue as the HFSLIP website is gone. It can, however, be found by google from, e.g., SoftPedia (safe downloads). Member Mim0 has a website that utilizes it.

Each method works differently than another and features (what each can or cannot do) are different.

DriverPacks are FULL Driver Packages. It's up to you to get what you need based on your Hardware.

It's really up to YOU which method is to be used for YOUR purposes. Pick one and when you have a problem doing something (do NOT ask for a "tutorial" - it won't happen) then make a Topic in that sub-forum.

1 - HFSLIP subforum.
2 - nLite subforum.
3 - RyanVM is NOT on MSFN - ask questions about it and problems with it on their website. You COULD try for help here, but I'm not sure how much you'll get.
4 - The Unattended link you already know about. This is generally where you ask for help on specifics of Unattended.
5 - Also note that there's an Add-Ons subforum specifically for nLite. (unsure if will work with HFSLIP)

note - you copied your post from the other topic and it hosed this link. This is the link...

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RyanVM is NOT on MSFN - ask questions about it and problems with it on their website. You COULD try for help here, but I'm not sure how much you'll get.

O ye of little faith. RyanVM is a member here, but hasn't been active in quite some time. The tool created for his update pack is officially supported on his site and Siginet's site.

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SHEESH!!! DUDE, I didn't SAY that! Was I unclear? And I HAD forgotten about Siginet.

Please note that I am a member of other Forums (including Siginet) and don't post there but use them for references. I do my posting here. ;)

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I'm sorry. Tone is hard to interpret on the internet, but your emphasis on NOT and COULD seemed to suggest sarcasm and doubt.

My mistake. But the links provided are useful nonetheless.

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The "Unattended" you have linked to is mostly for Manually doing things and a Tutorial on the various items related to Unattended

This gives nLite screenshots that directly relate to the Unattended link. It additionally gives Downloads to be used with nLite.

RyanVM Integrator is another Integration tool.

Finally, there is (was) a tool here called HFSLIP. Where it can be downloaded I have no clue as the HFSLIP website is gone. It can, however, be found by google from, e.g., SoftPedia (safe downloads). Member Mim0 has a website that utilizes it.

Each method works differently than another and features (what each can or cannot do) are different.

DriverPacks are FULL Driver Packages. It's up to you to get what you need based on your Hardware.

It's really up to YOU which method is to be used for YOUR purposes. Pick one and when you have a problem doing something (do NOT ask for a "tutorial" - it won't happen) then make a Topic in that sub-forum.

1 - HFSLIP subforum.
2 - nLite subforum.
3 - RyanVM is NOT on MSFN - ask questions about it and problems with it on their website. You COULD try for help here, but I'm not sure how much you'll get.
4 - The Unattended link you already know about. This is generally where you ask for help on specifics of Unattended.
5 - Also note that there's an Add-Ons subforum specifically for nLite. (unsure if will work with HFSLIP)

note - you copied your post from the other topic and it hosed this link. This is the link...



I did to the edit button and fixed the links in previous post.

I investigating and decided to use nlite and it was so easy. I used "Windows XP Post SP3 High-Priority Updates for nLite" on website tutorial you gave me link to and it was very good updater,so easy too.

I put in source (XPCD) IE8 and did adjustment in footnote 4 5 6 and put in the service pack 3 beforehand and made image to burn. I used application called image burn and install and updated only 2 updates,very good.


edited by me for fix for correction

Edited by O0o0O0O0o, 03 June 2012 - 11:00 PM.

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2 updates? One (KB2718704) was released a few hours ago that has now been updated on my site and the other is the Malicious Software Removal Tool (which I don't include anymore). Can you confirm?

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2 updates? One (KB2718704) was released a few hours ago that has now been updated on my site and the other is the Malicious Software Removal Tool (which I don't include anymore). Can you confirm?


Yes, that is confirm. Update KB2718704 and Malicious Tool .
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I did downloader many many hours ago and it has changed to June 3 now. I go to link on nlite tutorial to here also but updated was in Feburary and yours May the 8.

Updater tool at here http://xdot.tk/updates.html is your creation and your turtortial ?
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Yes, the UDC script is my creation. I don't have a tutorial.

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nLite Reference Guide. This is the best (AFAIK) that it gets.

edit - Some Video Tutorials.

edit - And (naturally) Nuhi's Older Guide.

Edited by submix8c, 05 June 2012 - 10:06 AM.

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Im making new cd creation and adding June 3rd update and driver section because it so easy and I do to for one driver chipset that is .exe. Nlite older guide say to "- If your drivers are only in the .exe format you can sometimes extract them with Winzip, Powerarchiver, Winrar ... " so I use free download winrar and do extraction but still no .INF extension.
I see that and find data.cab1 and data cab2 so I did extraction and I see INF in DATA.CAB 1 and nothing in data.cab 2.

Question,
Do I add this INF to nlite and that is it ? There are many infs in data cab 1.

Edit to my post. I used universal extractorfor data.cab extraction,winrar powerarchiver would not extraction.

Edited by O0o0O0O0o, 07 June 2012 - 07:17 AM.

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Sorry to say this, but Chipset Driver Packages are just that... Packages! They may contain many INF files for different Chipsets for a given Vendor (e.g. Intel, Via, etc.).

I can therefore not guide you because -
1 - You never said what you Computer Make (HP, Dell, etc) and Model are. Without that information there's no way of knowing.
2 - You mention an EXE file but never say what the filename is or where you got it, so we can't inspect the contents and match them to #1 (Make/Model).

Go here and start reading from Post #43 - read the rest of the posts. I don't want to go through that again. Let's keep it THIS TIME down to maybe two or three posts and DONE!

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My appologies for my mistake.

My computer is Dell Dimension 4600 here.

I got dell .exe file from that URL.

However do not know which of these to choose

Manuals



Dell™ Dimension™ 4600 Series

1.4600 With Integrated Video (Video Connector on System Board)

2.4600 With Video Card


So I list both documentation here:

1. Here

2. Here

Edited by O0o0O0O0o, 07 June 2012 - 10:27 AM.

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Move the catalog files in C:\Dell\Drivers\Y4NJD\xp to the data1\xp folder which you extracted with Universal Extractor and then point nLite to any of the .inf files in that folder. nLite will add them all.

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BWAHAHAHAH!!! I've repeatedly worked on my Brothers' Dim4600... I have EVERYTHING on my HDD...

I have NO CLUE what your ORIGINAL Video Card is. On the back, there SHOULD be a Service Tag Number. This will allow me to find SPECIFICALLY what your PC had WHEN NEW! If anything has changed (mainly the Video Card, and possibly otheers Cards added). this COULD change, but the BASICS should remain the same. STANDARD (AFAIK) is an IDE/PATA Hard Disk unless you put a SATA in it.

I guess I should also ask... Do you have the Restore CD's? These PC's usually come with two hidden Restore-To-Factory Partitions. More "magic" may be need to clean this up.

Please note that the Chipset Download you did is "kind of" old. It appears to have an 865-series Chipset (specifically 82865PE). Here is the Intel website for 865-series.

You will need the Chipset, Sound, Network, and Video (and any other add-in cards).

Please provide information requested so we can supply more (specific) assistance.

Hmmm... When you press "F12" when you first turn it on you SHOULD get a "Boot Selection" Screen. By selecting "Dell Utility" and booting to it you SHOULD get to the Utility Partition if it exists, which would imply that the Hidden Partitions still exist!

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Move the catalog files in C:\Dell\Drivers\Y4NJD\xp to the data1\xp folder which you extracted with Universal Extractor and then point nLite to any of the .inf files in that folder. nLite will add them all.


Very well explaination,it worked very nicely.
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BWAHAHAHAH!!! I've repeatedly worked on my Brothers' Dim4600... I have EVERYTHING on my HDD...

1.) I have NO CLUE what your ORIGINAL Video Card is. On the back, there SHOULD be a Service Tag Number. This will allow me to find SPECIFICALLY what your PC had WHEN NEW! If anything has changed (mainly the Video Card, and possibly otheers Cards added). this COULD change, but the BASICS should remain the same. STANDARD (AFAIK) is an IDE/PATA Hard Disk unless you put a SATA in it.

2.)I guess I should also ask... Do you have the Restore CD's? These PC's usually come with two hidden Restore-To-Factory Partitions. More "magic" may be need to clean this up.

3.)Please note that the Chipset Download you did is "kind of" old. It appears to have an 865-series Chipset (specifically 82865PE). Here is the Intel website for 865-series.

You will need the Chipset, Sound, Network, and Video (and any other add-in cards).

Please provide information requested so we can supply more (specific) assistance.

Hmmm... When you press "F12" when you first turn it on you SHOULD get a "Boot Selection" Screen. By selecting "Dell Utility" and booting to it you SHOULD get to the Utility Partition if it exists, which would imply that the Hidden Partitions still exist!


1.) I Read a post on Cnet.com that was not good to post service tag on internet. I will search for information,thank you.

2.) Ghost partition is gone,there was to many outdate software and anti-virus and I Have reformatted since then within last nlite cd creation. Yes I have reinstall cd.

3. ) What is advantage to newer driver ? I get from dell site all my drivers.

Edited by O0o0O0O0o, 07 June 2012 - 12:14 PM.

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1 - BS!!!! Service Tag provides NO relevant information...
2 - Again, you need the Driver Sets I indicated.
3 - When you go to Windows/Microsoft Update "Custom" instead of "Express" MS will want to provide NEWER drivers, so to keep that from happening, always get THE LATEST ones from the MotherBoard Vendor. Case in point - Intel's Network Driver IS the Latest, as is the Chipset Driver. I have ALRAEDY run into this on my Brother's PC (a Dimension 4600)
4 - I hope that your Sound Driver is ok. I played Heck with my Brother's - it's an ADI SoundMax
5 - And you STILL need the Video Driver - indications is that it's an 'NV18"

Here is the output from my Brother's Service Tag

Dimension 4600
Service Tag: 1TQYN31
Ship Date: 10/21/2003
Model: ?????
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Quantity Parts # Part Description
0 4X388 Instruction, Preparation- Material, Deviation, Dimension Increase, Number
1 9Y856 PROCESSOR..., 80532, 2.6G, 512, 800FSB, SOCKET N...
1 7N242 Keyboard, 104 Key, UNITED STATES..., Silitek, LC, MIDNIGHT GRAY...
1 H2871 Kit, Mouse, PS2, S69, Logitec
2 J0201 Dual Inline Memory Module 256, 400M, 32X64 8K, 184
1 U0970 DIGITAL VIDEO DISK DRIVE..., 680M, 16X, I, F5 Hitachi Large Data Storage Midnight Gray
1 4U829 Modem, V92, Internal, Data Fax, Softvoice, Don Julio, AMF
1 R0285 DVD Plus RW, 4.7, NEC CORPORATION..., 4X DVD Plus R, MIDNIGHT GRAY..., V2
* NEC DVD+RW ND-1100A (Curr FW: 10FD / DellUpdt: 10GE
* Add-In: HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8162
1 7E840 KIT..., SPEAKER..., 120V, HK395, SAMSUNG..., AMF
1 7R477 DISPLAY..., FLAT PANEL DISPLAY..., 18, DUAL..., 1800FP, MIDNIGHT GRAY...,
DELL AMERICAS ORGANIZATION...
1 8Y485 Card, Graphics, 64MB, NV18 Dimension <------------ NOT BUILT IN: SWAPPED FOR ANOTHER!
1 N0738 Hard Drive, 80GB, I 7200, 80G Maxtor-Cal
1 M1210 Assembly, Floppy Drive, 212, 2
1 1Y224 Kit, Software, Works Suite 2K3OEM, English
1 R2553 Kit, Software, Overpack, WXPHSP1ACompact Diskette/W Documentation, English
2 D0837 Kit, Doc/Dsk, Software, DVD, CYB, 4.13C
=====================================================
BIOS Version A12
F2= Setup
F12= Boot Screen (DellUtility Partition selection available)
Ctrl+F11 = Restore (DellRestore partition IF "special MBR" AND correct partitioning)
=========
Everything Integrated EXCEPT Modem and Video
1-NIC Intel Pro/100
6-USB (rear) *NOTE* If using USB Mouse/Kybd, MUST USE the ones below the NIC *NOTE*
2-USB (front)
1-Headphone (front - disables rear output?)
1-Mic
1-Line In (Stereo)
1-Line Out (stereo)
1-Surround (quad)
1-Center/LFE (5-channel)
1-COM Port (COM1)
1-Printer Port (LPT1)
=========
NEC DVD+RW ND-1100A
Hitachi HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8162B

Intel ICH5 Chipset (Intel 865G?) Everest says:
-Northbridge Springdale i865PE
-Southbridge 82801EB ICH5
-82801EB ICH5 - ATA-100 IDE Controller (A-2/A-3)
-82801EB ICH5 - Serial ATA/150 IDE Controller (A-2/A-3)
--(note1: both are showing; the SATA is the second one in DevMgr)
--(note2: SATA-I is 150mbs and SATA-II is 300mbs; this MoBo is SATA-I ONLY)
--(note3: Ensure that there IS a jumper on ANY SATA-II HDD that it's set to SATA-I Mode)

I have done extensive research on this PC, so I thought I might help. Do as you wish...

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1 - BS!!!! Service Tag provides NO relevant information...


Very good, then I give you my service Tag is 1NKLH31.
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I have a question for experienced user. Can nLite add windows meadia player 11 ? I see on nlite tutorial that it is to thrown in updates hotfix section of nlite but it isn't an update or a hotfix,it is an application and isn't included in that greatness downloader creation.
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WMP11? Start around post #15 here: http://www.msfn.org/...e-in-the-nlite/

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Very Good information.I read all of the link. Yes wmp11,latest media player. On Nuhi's old guide tutorial he say to drop wmp11 in hotfix section of nlite but on link you provided Alice is useing booogie application.
I would like to use Nlite application as it works so easy without flaw so far.

Question. Can I use nlite application for wmp11 integration if I make necessary adjustment as decribed in link you provided,or is boogie application necessary ?
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I believe that nLite has a little heartburn using Direct Integration. Hence the suggestion to use "booogie" first. AFAIKR, the reason I chose the other method was to "override" some "defaults" at first-use.

Now for your Original Configuration -
http://www.dell.com/...9&l=en&t=system
"G00011Card, Graphics, 128MB NV34, Dimension, 2nd"
nVidia GeForce FX5200 -
http://www.digital-d...eo/nvidia-nv34/
With TV-Out (an extra "connector" in addition to VGA Monitor on the card) -
http://www.geeks.com...vtid=NV-P118-BP
You might want to get the Catalyst drivers directly from nVidia. I use an MX440 Dual-Head, so depending on which version you have...
Please note that the Catalyst Software is MORE than just the Drivers.
I suppose you could just go with the Dell ones - unRar and point to NVDD.INF... they should work fine (maybe not the latest)... Unsure if MU/WU would want to "update" it or not...

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BTW, here are the updates you will need for WMP11. Please remember to do KB975558 without direct hotfix integration and do it separately.

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