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Personall I stopped using the commercial Adobe products after I was told they write to your boot sector when installed.


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yeah the safecast, i knew many multi-booters hate 'em.

http://answers.googl.../id/321444.html

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Hi well the hosts file and firewall can take care of any reporting or there are other ways to do this I wont mention them LOL. Once again I am not talking about peoples home pc's as I dont see a home user spending 2500 $ or so for cs 6 as they would have no need for it. All Corel software runs a similar program and there are other programs that report on you as well.. As for win 7 not being compatible I can put a cd in with old games on it like hexen earthworm jim click the exe and the game opens and runs in win 7 64 bit.. Also some people just like to stay with what they have but there is no real diffrence useing xp or win 7 you access things almost the same control panel and other settings. I also realise that not all are the same, to me a new os is great I get to learn it, some people dont want to learn for some reason, as for win 2k or 98 sure its fine if you dont want to play the new games or run new hardware. As for sticking with old stuff I know old guys that wont use the net there still on bbs and dialup LOL but thats there choice as long as your happy thats the main point, and no one should tell you what os to run, use what suits you and your hardware and programs. Well thats all I have to say I bet your all saying tg hes done LOL.

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there are many who would disagree
and I'm one of them

win7 like vista broke alot of compatibility of old games
I have to run WinME in vmware to play some that date from 1997-2000 which ofc run without problem on XP

Edited by vinifera, 18 July 2012 - 07:54 PM.


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there are many who would disagree
and I'm one of them

win7 like vista broke alot of compatibility of old games
I have to run WinME in vmware to play some that date from 1997-2000 which ofc run without problem on XP


I actually cant think of a single game I've wanted to run on win7 that I haven't been able to get to work.

That said if its older I tend to play it on 98se anyway so I can use 3dfx glide anyway so I might not actually notice.






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I was said I couldn't run GPU features in my XP OS in PS CS6, but I actually could if I enabled some well known registries. Even one of the client support personal "adviced" me to update the OS to seven o_O Anyway CS6 had too many problems (speed wise, and tools behaviour related too) that I decided to stay in my old CS3 version. It is fast and it works.

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Personall I stopped using the commercial Adobe products after I was told they write to your boot sector when installed.

Just for the record, it does not write to the bootsector, it writes to (absolute) disk sector 32:
http://answers.googl.../id/321444.html

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Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 is based on XP.
http://www.microsoft...ready-2009.aspx

Mainstream support until April 2014. Extended support until April 2019.


Ask again in 2015.



Are you stating that XP will supported until 2019?

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Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 is based on XP.
http://www.microsoft...ready-2009.aspx

Mainstream support until April 2014. Extended support until April 2019.


Ask again in 2015.



Are you stating that XP will supported until 2019?


The version 5 of the kernel NT will die in 2019. If the updates of Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 will be backported into the normal XP, we can have all the updates until that year.

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Ditto, from a double dinosaur (9x and XP diehard). :thumbup

As for the End of Life, no, I don't fear it at all: been there, done that and remain here to tell the story.
When all official support ends, a bunch of committed diehards takes over. It happened before, and will happen again.

I am A Very Committed XP user! You wrote that when official support ends, a bunch of committed diehards take over. Could we start a petition? lm game for any suggestions from anyone to keep XP around with at least security updates, or Any support. What do you all think?

Has Anyone read this, or considered this question?

Edited by steveothehighlander, 05 September 2012 - 08:17 AM.


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YOINKS, dude! Already in process! Even as far as ALL LANGUAGES! Browse around and see for yourself...

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YOINKS, dude! Already in process! Even as far as ALL LANGUAGES! Browse around and see for yourself...

l have found and signed one and have attempted to copy/paste for anyone else to sign.

http://www.thepetiti.../keep-xp-alive/

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Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 is based on XP.
http://www.microsoft...ready-2009.aspx

Mainstream support until April 2014. Extended support until April 2019.


Ask again in 2015.



Are you stating that XP will supported until 2019?


The version 5 of the kernel NT will die in 2019. If the updates of Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 will be backported into the normal XP, we can have all the updates until that year.

Not being as pc literate as you are, what does "backported mean? And, would we be able to get them from ms update?

thanks!!

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Backported means modifying the update so it works on a plain XP. I don't believe that will be necessary though as most of the updates that have been released are identical to both systems.

It remains to be seen how MS distributes or even if they will make the updated for POS.

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Upon doing some research, l have found that MS will allow w 7 users to Downgrade to XP until 2020. Therefore, will that mean MS updates & at Least Security Updates will be available til 2020? or 2014 still? lf l have a technical issue w/my XP Pro After 2014, will MS still be able to remote fix my PC? (Once in a great while, l have issues)

THANKS!

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Upon doing some research, l have found that MS will allow w 7 users to Downgrade to XP until 2020. Therefore, will that mean MS updates & at Least Security Updates will be available til 2020? or 2014 still? lf l have a technical issue w/my XP Pro After 2014, will MS still be able to remote fix my PC? (Once in a great while, l have issues)

THANKS!

Steve, you already posted this, and you already had answers to it here:
http://www.msfn.org/...ng-interesting/

(just trying to keep things as together as possible)

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Question sounds familiar.

Beat me to it, jaclaz. :)

Edited by 5eraph, 04 December 2012 - 12:21 PM.


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Question sounds familiar.

Beat me to it, jaclaz. :)

Yep, I am getting old but am still d@mn faast ! ;) (though this time you were reaaally close after me)

For NO apparent reason :w00t: :

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So MSFNers, I am new here and this forum seems to "my idea" of what a decent online Windows community should be, where people can talk without insults and belittling. So as a Windows enthusiast, I have a few curious questions:
1. How many of you are XP diehards with no intention of moving to Windows 7/Vista?
2. Are you trying to move to Windows 7 but facing some migration issue or removed features? What are they or why haven't you moved to Windows 7?
3. What will be the fate of poor use XP diehards if MS never fixes those issues?
4. Even if you have migrated to Windows 7, do you miss something from XP or did you like XP more?

Some answers I would like to give to these question for myself:
1. XP was my idea of the perfect OS (well not the security before SP2 and UAC is certainly the right step) but otherwise it was really good. Since Longhorn betas, I am trying to move to Windows Vista/7 but was blocked by many issues..mainly removed features (which I'm sure you must have read now). I absolutely love and adore many features of Windows Vista/7 too, these are also great OSes. So my intention is to move to Windows 7 of course, I am not a luddite clinging on to obsolete stuff but I will FOREVER keep XP running natively on at least one PC but the superb backward compatibility for dozens of games and old apps it offers all the way back which a virtual machine can't do justice to.
2. After years of finding alternatives and making compromises, learning the new way of doing things and ignoring the minor issues, almost all of my issues with Vista/7 are gone except the auto sorting problem. (For numerous reasons, I won't use a third party file manager, there isn't one that I like) :(
3. Good news: XP x64 will get security patches till July 2015 because of Server 2003 codebase. Are you concerned like me about End of Life?
4. I will miss a few things of XP even if I move to W7 like service pack slipstreaming (what better fun place than MSFN to do all the unattended stuff) but Vista/7 have far better deployment tools, and the speed of servicing which was extremely fast. I will miss the surround sound support in old games (but Alchemy fixes some of them), I will miss XP Media Center whose UI I find very much better etc.

You need not answer all four questions. :) I just want to know how many MSFNers still like Windows XP without me getting strange looks.


I will stick with XP. It is an excellent product.

There is nothing that I need in later versions of Windows.

I use Windows 7 on occasion on another computer and like that it handles badly written programs better with more information given.

There is a tendency for choices to be taken away from users who move to a newer O.'S.

I program in assembly and can still run 16 bit programs just fine in addition to the 32 bit ones I write.

I follow safe computing practices and have never gotten a virus or trojan.

Both Windows 7 and Vista have a least one security flaw.

This flaw has been in existence since XP came out.

Have a great day,
Andy

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actually if you disable on vista and 7 UAC
their security is equal to XP's

//offtopic
UAC to me was dirty solution to security




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