[xpclient]

Dogway, on 20 June 2012 - 03:16 AM, said:

I would like a better file copier for XP or explorer in general.

Here's a better one: http://jstanley.ping...com/pscopy.html




Doesn't prompt if you don't want it to, and can queue copy operations (start another only after one has finished). And skips all errors upon copy and continues copying and prompts only for files with errors at the end.And works for delete too. Continues deleting files which don't give errors and prompts at the end only for files in use which may have caused errors. IMO, a first class copier and the UI is the native Windows one, there are TeraCopy etc but I can't stand their UI being someone who obssesses with UI and User experience.

This post has been edited by xpclient: 20 June 2012 - 04:34 AM

[Dogway]

let's check that, looks promising.
I tested like a dozen of them and each had something I didn't like, as for Teracopy it had issues on my system, check this video. Lately I had been keeping an eye to UltraCopier, kind of a mix between Teracopy and supercopier.
I don't want to turn this into an app discussion but as a give back, I recommend Everything as a file searcher.
XP is far from perfect, but in my opinion is the best, add some useful applications like these and it gives me perfection placebo.

[tomasz86]

As we are talking about applications in my opinion this is one of the most useful ones:

Taskbar Shuffle

As its name says it allows you to change the order of taskbar and tray icons... but this is only one of its features. The other one is the ability to close applications by using middle-click on taskbar. I find it extremely comfortable and couldn't really use Windows without it anymore.

[xpclient]

Ah, taskbar shuffle! Yes it's in my must-use essential list of apps for XP.

I have a question for tomasz86 to which I never found a satisfactory answer whenever I have asked it. If the scroll wheel takes the place of the middle click (and even though you can click the scroll wheel), how do you find it comfortable enough? I own a high end mouse but find it far too uncomfortable to click the scroll wheel to middle click. Get what I mean? Maybe I am using the wrong "high end" mouse.

@Dogway, I couldn't say :PerigeeCopy is perfect. It does have a number of limitations like it doens't highlight the files it copied like Windows' native copy does, it shows speeds only in KB/s and many such others. But it gets the job done for me better. I have done extremely long backups with it too and found them all completed in the morning after leaving them overnight.

This post has been edited by xpclient: 20 June 2012 - 12:22 PM

[-X-]

I got used to middle click with Firefox (open in new tab). I used to hate it because it took more pressure to click. I have a Logitech G9x.

[vinifera]

after I upgraded PC specs, I had problems with XP, but I was a die hard user of XP
made my custom installs exact the way I wanted

with 7 I couldn't do so much except making it little lighter

but overall 7 aint that bad if you remove some things like IE, WMP, .net 3.5 (too bad 2 cant be removed), useless indexing service, tweak WinSxS to minimum

but on piece of crap like vista and 8 i wouldn't go dead

This post has been edited by vinifera: 20 June 2012 - 06:34 PM

[Dogway]

Well PerigeeCopy, I just tested for a day. I don't like it. Besides the highlight thing you name, there a few more, the most important for me is its inhability to undo. Also it shows the dialog even for small files, and overall initialization feels slow, a bit like what happened with Teracopy. I'm back to default XP's, it's not that horrible...

I use taskbar shuffle, but I think I should turn it off as Im already using 7plus, it's an Autohotkey based utility pack. I almost disable all the scripts in the application, but leave a handful bunch. MMB for closing windows on taskbar or title bar, wheel mouse on taskbar for volume, Double click on taskbar for task manager, RMB on title bar for always on top, MMB when file selected for file(s) properties, etc It's a new experience, I also use a useful script for the file renaming feature of 7.

On Firefox I always use MMB for opening links and close tabs, now I don't know if that's a built in feature.

[Joseph_sw]

i don't know you can use MMB for IE-8 tabs too

[Sysdll]

Right tool for the right job.

I have an old screwdriver that works. Last year I was given a shiny new screwdriver with a pretty finish. The new screwdriver has batteries to power a light. It has a ratchet assembly with a 5 position switch. It even has rubber thingys on the handle to make sure uneducated users can use it without causing harm.

It's big, It's awkward and it slows me down because too many adjustments have to be made before I can get to that task of removing a screw.

I'll stick to my old screwdriver.

[Joseph_sw]

if theres miracle patch to allow NT6 drivers model to be deployed on WinXP,
something like that would extends WinXP 'life'.

as long as MS doesn't introduce even newer Windows' driver models.

[vinifera]

think you can hex edit them and replace 6.0 with 5.1
but dunno what about certificates

know someone tried in past to give from NT 4 to NT 3

This post has been edited by vinifera: 21 June 2012 - 07:38 PM

[dencorso]

Certificates are irrelevant for XP. Downversion patching alone may not get more than a handful of drivers working, but that's a start. And a stubber filter driver like WDMSTUB.SYS might get a bunch more working. But it's not quite straightforward to do it, so some commited programmer(s) are needed, and the sooner the better.

[xpclient]

@Dogway, Everything is simply awesome if you are just searching for file names. Too bad it doesn't have a 64-bit version, it misses the files in system32 due to file system redirection. They also have an SDK. "Everything" search result integration would be a great addition to the Classic Shell search box provided it's presented in a better, more concise way than Everything currently does.

[steveothehighlander]

cdob, on 18 June 2012 - 03:23 PM, said:

Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 is based on XP.
http://www.microsoft...ready-2009.aspx

Quote

Mainstream support until April 2014. Extended support until April 2019.

Ask again in 2015.

Is this really true as of 06/27/12? this would make my day!

Can Someone Please answer this question?

This post has been edited by steveothehighlander: 07 August 2012 - 10:45 AM

[NATO]

FYI

Big Brother's 'computer' and www (what a wicked web they weave when they labor to deceive) is based in Biblical thinking which Bill Gates (Retired) is obviously aware of.

,95 = 1995 AD
'98 = 1998 AD
2K = 2000 AD

XP = eX Patris (Oh 'father' why hast thou deserted us?)
VISTA - a landscape with NO religious sheeple. (Check the desktop wallpapers.)
7 = the Seven headed Monster with ten horns, and other religious connotations.
8 = The sign for infinity turned 90° into an 8

9 ??? Deep space 9. (The Council of Nine or Great Ennead of Egypt.)

No Sun no gravity, no orbit, and planet Earth disappears into the abyss of empty space.

Time to defenestrate Windows and live life to the full whilst there is still time...

http://theabysmal.wo...implementation/

There are now 176 Days to Dec 21st 2012 (00:00:36 Hours)

Bye Guys, have fun!

Thanks for all your help.

Good luck to all of you.

Ian

[NTLDR]

All my PCs run Windows XP, including relatively new systems. XP is indeed my primary OS that I use 99% of the time. I've played around and experimented with Windows Vista, 7, Linux, and Unix for quite a long time, and I still wasn't able to migrate away. XP is simply faster, less bloated, and the UI makes much more sense (after some tweaking). I'm the type of person who doesn't care about themes and shiny UI animations, etc. The performance and low overhead matters much more to me than new features and higher overhead (read: bloat).

Two years ago I purchased a TOSHIBA Portege R705 w/ Intel Core i3, which of course came with Windows 7. What did I do to it? I wiped the HDD and installed an n-Lite customized version of XP Pro. Luckily, the OEM provided all the necessary drivers for download, so I had no issues with device drivers. I removed various components like IE, mshtml (IE rendering engine), "fisher price" theme, VB Scripting, OOBE, and other unnecessary resource-eating components. The final product looked a lot more like Windows 2000 than XP. Some people who saw my shiny new PC curiously asked "why are you using Windows 98?" And when that happened, I would have to run the winver command to prove them it's newer than they think.

I regret saying this, but it's only a matter of time before I will be forced to migrate to an OS like WIndows 7 or 8. I'm reluctant to migrate to Win7, but it's inevitable if I want to invest in new hardware instead of continuing to use old hardware. Even traditional spinning HDDs being manufactured right now need Windows Vista or higher because they use the new Advanced Format (AF) specification in which 4K sectors are used to store data. Windows XP doesn't support AF, it can only read and write data in units of 512B and M$ has no plans on providing an update to enable native 4K advanced format support. Of course the new AF HDD controllers have 512e emulation, but there is a performance penalty in write operations.

16GB of ram is becoming the new limit on many new PCs and, from what I have heard, Windows XP 64-bit has some issues. So if I want to go beyond 4GB, I'm stuck with 64-bit Windows 7 and future versions. And worst of all, how many OEMs still provide Windows XP drivers, especially to laptop systems? Although I really love Windows XP, migration to Windows 7 is only a matter of time. If these issues were non-existent, I would stick with XP indefinitely, even if M$ cut support. I am my own support!!

[duffy98]

NTLDR ... been reading all the replies since this topic started ... your reply was especially interesting. I just spent my first month (June) with XP and couldn't be happier about my decision to move on from Windows 98SE in early May. I have three IBM Thinkpad computers that are now running super fast and great. Yes, they ran very well with Windows 98SE but never quite 100%. I bought them over the last few years since they were listed as the last notebooks (T series) to work with Windows 98SE. I had everything set up with my favorite programs and settings but it wasn't perfect or completely to my liking. So around May 1st I decided to give XP another shot and this time I was going to work with it more and take the time to figure out setting it up exactly the way I would like it to be. The month of May started out gruesome (overwhelming) but quickly after some trial and error, in about two weeks I had a good setup going and by early June had everything just perfect ... thanks to doing a lot of early Ghost backups, if something was a disaster, I could be setup again in minutes to try something different.

Anyway, the last three weeks of June were just running the "final setup" and I couldn't be happier with having XP on my notebooks. I have some extra IDE hard drives put away that I bought on eBay earlier in 2011 and 2012. I added RAM to two notebooks to make them all the same at 1 GB. I was especially happy that I was able to use many programs that I had on my Windows 98SE setup with XP. I sort of feel like the "Maytag Repairman" these days ... nothing more to work on, fix or search around for. As of right now, I feel these notebooks are running as good as I could ever hope for ... 100% +. I'm sure a few things will come along to tweak or try down the road ... but for now, Windows XP is working great and I hope to keep these notebooks and XP working for many years, if not forever. I wish I had moved from Windows 98SE a few years ago ... I had a few Pentium 3s and 98SE ran great on them but these Thinkpads are just super fast with no hangups with XP now installed.

thanks ...

This post has been edited by duffy98: 02 July 2012 - 03:54 AM

[Ascii2]

I do not like Widows Vista nor Windows 7.

I do like Windows 2000 and initially (before Service Pack 2), the Windows XP family.

Windows 2000 family operating systems were quite effective and usually efficient to work with initially. Unfortunately, sometime after the release of Service Pack 4, the quality of many the individual updates became poor and the performance and stability of the operating system, fully updated with security updates, was significantly reduced.

Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 1 was quite good. The operating system was very much like Windows 2000, but with Prefetch and a tweaked interface. The resource use for many things tended to be about 2.7 times what Windows 2000 would use (this seemed intentional, considering that its target market were the regular consumer class (which were typically using Windows ME, Windows 98, and Windows 95)). Performance (from a usability standpoint) was quite like Windows 2000 with Service Pack 3 or Windows 2000 with Service Pack 4, but many things would launch faster (due to the naively included Prefetch).

Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 2 was and is an inferior product. It was a product that broke precedence of what kind of updates were included in Service Packs. This was the the turning point (downwards) in the quality of Microsoft operating system software. Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 2 included negative performance changes plus new features to reduce its usability and function. For me, the crippling of the included Hardware Abstraction Layers, where the sum of the addressable device memories and RAM could no longer exceed 4 GB, is perhaps the best example of a severe and restricting functionality change. The change is so severe, that one cannot work around the issue in Windows XP with Service Pack 2.

[frf954]

I am not a xp diehard. I have already tried seven not deeply enough but it has some nice features (user right system, wallpaper sets changer...)

If only I can manage to remove it's major drawbacks as I explained here : link
I will definitly save the cost of win seven.

The problem is that nLite doesn't allow me to do all things that I wan't and I am not able to create an unattended CD by myself.

[xpclient]

@Ascii2, agree 100% about this one. You are spot on. Apparently, MS ran into lots of driver address space incompatibilities for SP2 when they tried to address full 4 GB RAM using PAE on 32-bit. But they should have worked to fix them, instead of forcing people to 64-bit indirectly to use all of their RAM. If Server 2003 and XP pre-SP2 XP SP1 worked, I see no technical reason good enough to justify this decision. Fortunately, Windows XP Professional x64 Edition exists and beats the pants of 32-bit XP in terms of performance. Even if it's based on Server 2003 code base (NT 5.2), it is XP-fied (includes everything XP did for the most part) and is compatible with XP everything. It is great if your hardware has XP x64 drivers (from eXPerience, I have come to the conclusion that it is worth dumping hardware that doesn't have XP x64 drivers for one that does).

@frf954, XP has a wallpaper changer as well FYI if you don't like the millions of third party wallpaper changers: It's an MS powertoy that integrates nicely into the display properties!

This post has been edited by xpclient: 17 July 2012 - 07:58 AM