[vinifera]

MagicAndre1981, on 01 September 2012 - 09:57 AM, said:

the Chinese are working on an Aero Glass patch

isn't simple uxtheme patch enough ?
borders are pictures anyway, no need for hacks

[MagicAndre1981]

no, the Uxtheme patch only allows 3rd party theme fines. The rendering is done by the DWM. The strange thing is the RTM still contains the code to draw Glass.

[Riyyi]

I don't know what is happening but with b5a when I login I see the desktop and the start orb for a sec but then it crashes back to metro and the orb is gone.
With b4 it works just fine, I even tried it with a clean explorer.exe and .mui

I am using Windows 8 Enterprise x64 with the Windows 7 Ultimate x64 explorer.exe and .mui

It does work on my laptop which has Windows 8 Pro x64 on it.

[Tihiy]

Please try attached version (others please don't).

This post has been edited by Tihiy: 05 September 2012 - 02:47 AM

[Riyyi]

Tihiy, on 04 September 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

That's bad. Can you send me all shortcuts from your desktop?

This one does work, thanks.
What did you mean by: all shortcuts on desktop?
All my application shortcuts or the explorer7 folder with the explorer.exe etc. in it.

[Tihiy]

ace1, on 04 September 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

Can you help I have info about Aero which work with your Patchex7-b5 only - (will not work in metro) but I do not know were to post.

I'm all yours. Send me a PM.

[Tihiy]

Beta 6 is here - attached to first post
- Fix: shell could crash if broken shortcuts were on desktop
- AutoPlay now works (no toast)
- Win-P now works
- Other minor improvements

When upgrading, you must first run patchex7 and select "8", then re-logon in order to be able to replace files. After replacing files, run patchex7 and select "7".

[xpclient]

OMG! Tihiy you are a genius! AutoPlay is back in the same window!!! If only the Open With window can also be brought back.

Edit: Oh dear! It's the same window as you pointed out. Then Windows 7 for me.

[Tihiy]

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AutoPlay is back in the same window!!!

No, it's still same window, but you don't get "Choose what to do with removable drives" popup.

[Aloha]

Cool, I am downloading it for RP. I don't want to use it on RTM.

Er... why do you change the poll, Tihiy? Now the result is all zero!

[MagicAndre1981]

Tihiy, on 05 September 2012 - 02:48 AM, said:

Beta 6 is here - attached to first post
- Fix: shell could crash if broken shortcuts were on desktop
- AutoPlay now works (no toast)
- Win-P now works
- Other minor improvements

thanks

[hoak]

So impressive, especially so for 'strange hacker who never finishes his work'! When you're satisfied you've gone as far as you can with your wrapper, you might want to consider putting the whole shebang in an installer that asks for the User's Windows 7 or Server 2008R2 DVD, and does the rest for them, and asking for some remuneration or at least donations for your effort!

[hoak]

Unfortunately I just un-installed Windows 8 and forgot to check the following with Tihiy's Windows 7 shell for Windows 8, and if anyone would like to follow up I'd be very interested in what you discover...

Windows 8 now requires the "Desktop Window Manager Session Manager" Service running as it hosts the OpenGL compositer which is now required for the Windows 8 Explorer shell to run. This was not the previously the case in Windows 7 and you'd just get the 'Native Unskinned' UI, could save considerable resource by disabling the "Desktop Window Manager Session Manager" and "Themes" Services, avoid ssues with some applications and gamas that use OpenGL and/or DirectX, and also see substantial performance improvements with some applications and games...

I'm wondering if the "Desktop Window Manager Session Manager" Service can now be stopped with Tihiy's shell installed/enabled, and if that is the case, if the Metro/Modern boot recover UI requires this Service in order to be accessed?

This post has been edited by hoak: 06 September 2012 - 03:31 PM

[Tihiy]

hoak, on 06 September 2012 - 03:29 PM, said:

I'm wondering if the "Desktop Window Manager Session Manager" Service can now be stopped with Tihiy's shell installed/enabled, and if that is the case, if the Metro/Modern boot recover UI requires this Service in order to be accessed?

Yep, it can be stopped (disabled). Logon ui would be black and boot gui - likely.

This post has been edited by Tihiy: 06 September 2012 - 04:24 PM

[hoak]

Tihiy, on 06 September 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:

hoak, on 06 September 2012 - 03:29 PM, said:

I'm wondering if the "Desktop Window Manager Session Manager" Service can now be stopped with Tihiy's shell installed/enabled, and if that is the case, if the Metro/Modern boot recover UI requires this Service in order to be accessed?

Yep, it can be stopped (disabled). Logon ui would be black and boot gui - likely.

Thank you Tihiy! This will likely make you're project essential for a lot of Developers that that use 3D render software, as well as Gamers that are already seeing issues with the default inability to stop the "Desktop Window Manager Session Manager" Service in Windows 8.

Sooner or later (probably later) I'll get a look at how having this Windows Service disabled actually effects configuring and using the Windows 8 restore and recovery options.

In the mean time this is probably one thing for people that may jump on board with Tihiy's 7 Explorer Shell just to get this Service out of their way to be aware of; i.e. if you hose something up with the Service disabled you may need to find a way to get it going again to use Window 8 recovery options, or recover your system.

Awesome project! Impressive progress!

This post has been edited by hoak: 06 September 2012 - 05:31 PM

[MagicAndre1981]

@Tihiy

do you know why the "show desktop" button is now larger? In former patches it has the same size like in Windows 7.

 Win8_patch_Win7_explorer.png (16.01K)
Number of downloads: 8

[Tihiy]

MagicAndre1981, on 07 September 2012 - 09:16 AM, said:

do you know why the "show desktop" button is now larger? In former patches it has the same size like in Windows 7.

It is found that win8 thinks you have touch input and thus gives you touch-optimized button. Are you sure previous patches had smaller button? Can anyone confirm? Test with previous version.

This post has been edited by Tihiy: 10 September 2012 - 02:57 PM

[SIW2]

Tihiy,

Thanks.

It makes a huge difference to my pe build.

It might look like there haven't been many downloads - but your patchex is being used widely all over the world.

Youe efforts are appreciated.

[MagicAndre1981]

Tihiy, on 07 September 2012 - 09:28 AM, said:

It is found that win8 thinks you have touch input and thus gives you touch-optimized button.

ah, good point! I'm now using Vmware player 5 and no longer virtualbox. And VMware seems to emulate touch in the VM.

[Aloha]

I'm using beta 6 on RP now. Show desktop button looks small as usual. I didn't notice how it looked like with beta 5 or older version, but I believe it always looks small.

BTW, Happy Birthday Tihiy! Wishing you good health and happiness in life!