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Trying to recover an SBS 2003 installation from a failed motherboard. New mobo is Gigabyte GA-A75M-DH2 (Chipset is AMD A75)

Symantec Backup Exec Recovery does not seem able to load a raid driver for this board by its "recover anywhere" method. NLite seems like a great alternative.

When the NLite created SBS install cd is run (with RAID driver), SBS installer does not recognize the AMD raid array. I skipped the F6 step.

I created the array using the boards built-in utility. Then added a single RAID driver through the NLite wizard, which was the x86 RAID driver for XP.

No luck though. Should work with this hardware?


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Are you sure the driver is correct? Could you post the URL where it can be downloaded?

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Thanks for your help. I've attached the driver file from the install cd. Here is the link to the MB manufacturer driver page:

You have to select the OS, which is Windows Server 2003. We are running Small Bus. Server 2003. Note the SBS 03 install we are trying to recover used xp drivers for same RAID type (different manufacturer) without a problem.

http://www.gigabyte....id=3930&dl=1#dl

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Could you first answer these few questions?

1. You're saying that the other motherboard failed... are you now trying to connect the HDD(s) to the new one? How many HDDs were used?

2. Do you want to run the existing installation of the SBS 2003 or to install it from scratch?

3. SBS (Small Business Server) doesn't sound like something used at home. nLite is for personal use only :whistle: and I'm not sure about the structure of the CD of SBS 2003. Is it the same as Windows 2003 Server? Even without using nLite you can integrate SATA drivers very easily manually. I can help you in this matter but please first answer questions 1) and 2).

Edit: By the way, there's no *.oem file in the archive.

Edited by tomasz86, 06 August 2012 - 11:53 AM.

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:) It is used at home for a home based network. We were trying to convert from static IP to dynamic when the sata controller on the old Abit Mobo failed.

(1) Using 2 drives as RAID 0 on new board. Those drives are new.

(2) I am using a backup of the existing install. We have to do this. Symantec System Recovery 2011 image file.

SBS setup disc is very similar to XP. Our backup install used xp RAID drivers.

Microsoft support somehow just corrupted the old installation when trying to remove ISA 2004 - I paid them $280 for this incident!

So I am trying to restore an image backup using Symantec System Restore 2011. That cannot access the RAID driver.

Next tried to create a partition using SBS setup disc (modified with NLite).

The RAID driver path on the cd is attached. I used the NLite driver utility to add single file and then driver folder.

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Edited by NickMDal, 06 August 2012 - 12:14 PM.


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I'm not sure if I understand everything correctly. Are these new two HDDs empty? Are you trying to restore the system from the backup image and you can't do it because there is no proper RAID driver? Is this correct?

Will you be able to restore the previous configuration if you install SBS 2003 again? I'm guessing that this is what you're trying to do now and this is why you're trying to integrate the SATA/RAID driver for AMD A75. Are there no HDDs detected when you run the SBS 2003 installation?

What to you mean by "very similar to XP"? Is SBS 2003 recognised by nLite? If the folder structure, etc. is different then nLite may not integrate the drivers properly.

This is how you can integrate the driver manually (use only the files from the x86 folder):

http://www.msfn.org/...ost__p__1006081

and after that you should add more lines to:

dosnet.inf
[FloppyFiles.1]
d1,ahcix86.sys
txtsetup.sif
[SourceDisksFiles]
ahcix86.sys = 1,,,,,,4_,4,1,,,1,4

[SCSI.Load]
ahcix86 = ahcix86.sys,4

[FileFlags]
ahcix86.sys = 16

[HardwareIdsDatabase]
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4391&CC_0106 = "ahcix86"
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4392&CC_0104 = "ahcix86"
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4393&CC_0104 = "ahcix86"
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4394&CC_0106 = "ahcix86"
PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_7801&CC_0106 = "ahcix86"
PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_7802&CC_0104 = "ahcix86"
PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_7803&CC_0104 = "ahcix86"
PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_7804&CC_0106 = "ahcix86"

[SCSI]
ahcix86 = "AMD AHCI Compatible RAID Controller-x86 platform"
hivesys.inf
[AddReg]
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ahcix86\Parameters",,0x00000012
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ahcix86\Parameters\PnpInterface","5",0x00010003,1
and then also make cab of ahcix86.sys and copy it to i386 (so at the end there will be two copies of the file, one in driver.cab and one in i386).

Edited by tomasz86, 06 August 2012 - 01:09 PM.

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Thanks again. Everything's changed now. Just accidentally deleted the partition on the backup drive so now its a fresh SBS 03 install. That isn't too much of a disaster since the old was plagued by corrupt files. Critical items are backed elsewhere.

The raid situation is straightened out. Picked up a usb floppy and SBS install cd works with it perfectly.

My problem now is that SBS will need all of the xp drivers on the Gigabyte CD. Is it a complex process to configure the nLite ISO to contain all of the motherboard drivers? Your help is very appreciated.

Nick

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But did you integrate the driver or just used the floppy to install it at the beginning of the setup? :P

If you want to integrate all drivers then the link I mentioned above in #6 has everything you need to integrate them... This is the only way to have FULL control of the process. Of course you can try adding them through nLite but then it's trial and error game.

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Just at setup. Slow here not being an IT person. :)

I just used the floppy at F6. Previously I integrated using the wizard, not the manual approach you suggested. That did not work. After using the floppy approach, the SBS routine is blue screened during installation of the first OS cd. I thought it was using raid properly since it managed to install many files. Can you say if that is the case?

Using your procedure to integrate drivers will take many hours since the mobo cd has gillions of folders and files. Well, I just counted and found 433 inf files. Manually picking out the list for XP files would in itself be a job. The driver download from gigabyte is only an executable that builds the entire folder tree.

Do you know which particular driver types MUST be preinstalled? I imagine some do not impact install and so I can always use the install cd from SBS desktop if I can get there.

Edited by NickMDal, 07 August 2012 - 10:10 AM.


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I'm sure that most of those folders and INF files on the CD are not needed when integrating drivers ;) I could create a package for you which you would just integrate using the script (one click integration) but there is a catch - you would have to follow my instructions 100% :w00t:

Actually nothing needs to be preinstalled. As long your HDDs are detected and there are no errors during the installation then you can just install all drivers later after the first boot.

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Yes this would be great! Today I am first trying to recover the accidentally deleted partition. If it fails, you will save our installation by doing this. Will update later today :)

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Please note that nLite's is for personal use only, not business related use, you agreed to that when you installed it. We've never given help to people in breach of this agreement here. Forum rule 1d.

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I completely understand this. Our installation is at home and I am not an IT person. I have a Time Warner residential connection now. We do some "work" type work at home but mostly it is just to manage our home network. Is that ok?

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Is that ok?

I guess yes. Some people react in a different way. Staying polite and sounding genuine are your best moves. :hello:

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OK, I'm going to prepare a driver pack but first I need to know what devices are used and connected to this board.

1) What's your CPU? Do you use an APU? If not then please tell me what your graphic card is.
2) Do you use the integrated Realtek ALC889 sound card?
3) Do you use the integrated Realtek RTL8111E LAN card?
4) Are there any other devices used?

There shouldn't be many drivers needed for this particular motherboard:

- mass storage drivers
- sound drivers
- LAN drivers
and probably
- graphic drivers

If this is everything then preparing the package will be very simple. Actually the board doesn't officially support Windows 2003 Server and some drivers may not be available for the OS. You'll have to use XP drivers which should work in most cases but don't have to.

Edited by tomasz86, 08 August 2012 - 11:39 AM.

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Sorry for the delay. The vid card is built in to the board. Just using vga port. CPU is AMD A4 3400. No to sound card, yes to lan. The board is Gigabyte A75M-D2H.

One temporary device is SIIG SATA 6 gb/s 2S1P PCIe card to allow IDE drives during install.

The site link for drivers is here: http://www.gigabyte....spx?pid=3930#dl

There are so many drivers on the cd. How do you figure out which are needed?

I installed and ran Agent Ransack since it searches very well. The device id's listed in Symantec System Recovery "Recover Anywhere" cd didn't seem to match any drivers on the cd. I did text string searches.

Thanks so much for helping put this together. It will really get me out of a huge bind.

Nick

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No problem :)

If your motherboard is Gigabyte A75M-D2H then you can't be using the a built-in graphic card because there is none ;) I think that the graphics you're using is integrated in the CPU. In order to find proper drivers I just check the motherboard's specification and then search for the newest versions of the drivers on their manufacturers' websites. From my experience the vast majority of things included on the CD you're talking about is probably completely unnecessary (=bloatware). The motherboard is a pretty standard one so building a package of drivers shouldn't be very difficult.

This is the first part of the instructions:
Spoiler

Edit: A fixed version is available in #19

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Hi,

Working on this now. There are lots of SourceDiskName sections in the inf's, one for each language. They alternate with ServiceName sections, which I am leaving.

The ALC899 link (step2) is not working from here. I get the "I accept" and then click next but it cycles back. Search for ALC899 only returns the datasheet.

Am I looking in the wrong place?

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Actually, after thinking about it, I believe it should be possible to remove all [SourceDisksNames*] and [SourceDisksFiles*] sections automatically :) so you should just left them untouched now.


This is a fixed version of the instructions (ALC899 is fixed too).

This is how you should prepare your drivers folder. First of all, create a folder called "drivers" next to the i386 (you need to copy the contents of your Windows CD to your disk):
i386
drivers
Next you should prepare the drivers:

1) Realtek RTL8111E

- Create a folder "drivers\Realtek RTL8111E".
- Go to here, download "WinXP and WinServer 2003 Driver" (Driver_XP_5798_07272012.zip) and unpack it.
- Delete all files with *64* as they are for XP/2003 x64.
From commandline:
DEL *64*
- Move the remaining files to "drivers\Realtek RTL8111E":
RtNicprop32.DLL
RTNUninst32.dll
Netrtle.inf
netrtle.cat
Rtenic.sys
Rtenicxp.sys
(I'm not sure which of the two files Rtenic.sys and Rtenicxp.sys the system will choose so let's keep both)


2) Realtek ALC889

- Create a folder "driver\Realtek ALC889".
- Go to here, click on "Software", download "Windows 2000, Windows XP/2003(32/64 bits) Driver only (ZIP file)" and unpack it.
- We don't know the exact hardware id of your sound card so it will be safer to just include everything so copy all files from "WDM" to "drivers\Realtek ALC889" except the ones with *64*:
Alcmtr.exe
AlcWzrd.exe
ALSndMgr.cpl
AMBFilt.sys
HDA.inf
HDA01.inf
HDA104D.inf
HDA32.cat
HDA32LC.cat
HDA861A.inf
HDAAcer.inf
HDAApple.inf
HDABPCAI.inf
HDACPC.inf
HDAHP880.inf
HDAHPAIO.inf
HDAHPBPC.inf
HDAHPNB.inf
HDALC.inf
HDALC2.inf
HDALVJ.inf
HDAMaxxD.inf
HDAPanasonic.inf
HDARt.inf
HDASamsu.inf
HDASRSA.inf
HDASRSD2.inf
HDASRSD3.inf
HDASRSL.inf
HDX.INF
HDX01.INF
HDX104D.INF
HDX861A.INF
HDXApple.inf
HDXBPCAI.INF
HDXCPC.inf
HDXHP880.INF
HDXHPAIO.INF
HDXHPBPC.INF
HDXHPNB.INF
HDXLC.INF
HDXLC2.INF
HDXLVJ.INF
HDXMaxxD.INF
HDXPanasonic.INF
HDXRT.INF
HDXSamsu.INF
HDXSRSA.INF
HDXSRSL.INF
MicCal.exe
Monfilt.sys
OAO17Afx.sys
RTAIODAT.DAT
RTCOMDLL.dll
RTHDCPL.exe
RtkAudioService.exe
RtkCoInstIIXP.dll
RtkCoLDRXP.dll
RtkHDAud.sys
RtlCPAPI.dll
RTLCPL.exe
RtlUpd.exe
RTSndMgr.cpl
SkyTel.exe
SoundMan.exe
vncutil.exe

3. AMD (graphics)

- Create a folder "drivers\AMD Graphics".
- Download http://www2.ati.com/...xp32_dd_ccc.exe and unpack it.
- Go to "Packages\Drivers\Display\XP_INF" and move "CX142032.inf" & "CX142032.cat" to "B140419".
- Go to "B140419" and unpack all files ending with "_" using any archives (ex. 7-Zip). Don't use the system's expand.exe because it will not unpack these particular files properly. After that remove all packed files.
- Move all files from "B140419" to "drivers\AMD Graphics":
ati2cqag.dll
ati2dvag.dll
ati2edxx.dll
ati2erec.dll
ati2evxx.dll
ati2evxx.exe
ati2mdxx.exe
ati2mtag.sys
ati3duag.dll
atiadlxx.dll
atiapfxx.blb
atiapfxx.exe
atibtmon.exe
atiddc.dll
atidemgx.dll
atiicdxx.dat
atiiiexx.dll
atikvmag.dll
atimpc32.dll
atiodcli.exe
atiode.exe
atiogl.xml
atioglxx.dll
atiok3x2.dll
atipdlxx.dll
atitvo32.dll
ativcoxx.dll
ativvaxx.cap
ativvaxx.dll
CX142032.cat
CX142032.inf
oemdspif.dll

4. AMD (chipset)

- Download http://www2.ati.com/..._xp32-64_sb.exe and unpack it.

a) AHCI

- Create a folder "drivers\AMD AHCI"
- Go to "src\Packages\Drivers\SBDrv\hseries\AHCI_svr\XP".
- Delete "ReadMe.rtf" & "amd_sata.msi".
- Move the remaining files to "drivers\AMD AHCI":
amd_sata.inf
txtsetup.oem
amd_sata.cat
amd_sata.sys
amd_xata.sys
b ) USB 3.0

- Create a folder "drivers\AMD USB 3.0".
- Go to "src\Packages\Drivers\SBDrv\hseries\USB30\amdhub\XP".
- Move "amdhub30.inf" & "amdhub30.cat" to "x86".
- Move all files from "x86" to "drivers\AMD USB 3.0":
amdhub30.sys
amdhub30.inf
amdhub30.cat
- Go to "src\Packages\Drivers\SBDrv\hseries\USB30\amdxhc\XP"
- Move "amdxhc.inf" & "amdxhc.cat" to "x86".
- Move all files from "x86" to "drivers\AMD USB 3.0":
amdxhc.inf
amdxhc.cat
amdxhc.sys
c) USB Filter

- Create a folder "drivers\AMD USB Filter".
- Go to "src\Packages\Drivers\SBDrv\hseries\UsbFilter\XP".
- Move "USBFilter.inf" & "usbfilter.cat" to "x86".
- Move all files from "x86" to "drivers\AMD USB Filter".
USBFilter.inf
usbfilter.cat
USBFilter.sys
d) SMBus

- Create a folder "drivers\AMD SMBus".
- Go to "src\Packages\Drivers\SBDrv\SMBus\XP".
- Delete "INFSETUP.EXE", "ReadMe.rtf" & "SMBUSamd.msi".
- Move the remaining files to "drivers\AMD SMBus":
SMBUSamd.inf
smbusamd.cat

At the end the folder "drivers" should follow this structure:

drivers\AMD AHCI\amd_sata.cat
drivers\AMD AHCI\amd_sata.inf
drivers\AMD AHCI\amd_sata.sys
drivers\AMD AHCI\amd_xata.sys
drivers\AMD AHCI\txtsetup.oem

drivers\AMD Graphics\ati2cqag.dll
drivers\AMD Graphics\ati2dvag.dll
drivers\AMD Graphics\ati2edxx.dll
drivers\AMD Graphics\ati2erec.dll
drivers\AMD Graphics\ati2evxx.dll
drivers\AMD Graphics\ati2evxx.exe
drivers\AMD Graphics\ati2mdxx.exe
drivers\AMD Graphics\ati2mtag.sys
drivers\AMD Graphics\ati3duag.dll
drivers\AMD Graphics\atiadlxx.dll
drivers\AMD Graphics\atiapfxx.blb
drivers\AMD Graphics\atiapfxx.exe
drivers\AMD Graphics\atibtmon.exe
drivers\AMD Graphics\atiddc.dll
drivers\AMD Graphics\atidemgx.dll
drivers\AMD Graphics\atiicdxx.dat
drivers\AMD Graphics\atiiiexx.dll
drivers\AMD Graphics\atikvmag.dll
drivers\AMD Graphics\atimpc32.dll
drivers\AMD Graphics\atiodcli.exe
drivers\AMD Graphics\atiode.exe
drivers\AMD Graphics\atiogl.xml
drivers\AMD Graphics\atioglxx.dll
drivers\AMD Graphics\atiok3x2.dll
drivers\AMD Graphics\atipdlxx.dll
drivers\AMD Graphics\atitvo32.dll
drivers\AMD Graphics\ativcoxx.dll
drivers\AMD Graphics\ativvaxx.cap
drivers\AMD Graphics\ativvaxx.dll
drivers\AMD Graphics\CX142032.cat
drivers\AMD Graphics\CX142032.inf
drivers\AMD Graphics\oemdspif.dll

drivers\AMD SMBus\smbusamd.cat
drivers\AMD SMBus\SMBUSamd.inf

drivers\AMD USB 3.0\amdhub30.cat
drivers\AMD USB 3.0\amdhub30.inf
drivers\AMD USB 3.0\amdhub30.sys
drivers\AMD USB 3.0\amdxhc.cat
drivers\AMD USB 3.0\amdxhc.inf
drivers\AMD USB 3.0\amdxhc.sys

drivers\AMD USB Filter\usbfilter.cat
drivers\AMD USB Filter\USBFilter.inf
drivers\AMD USB Filter\USBFilter.sys

drivers\Realtek ALC889\Alcmtr.exe
drivers\Realtek ALC889\AlcWzrd.exe
drivers\Realtek ALC889\ALSndMgr.cpl
drivers\Realtek ALC889\AMBFilt.sys
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDA.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDA01.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDA104D.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDA32.cat
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDA32LC.cat
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDA861A.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDAAcer.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDAApple.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDABPCAI.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDACPC.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDAHP880.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDAHPAIO.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDAHPBPC.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDAHPNB.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDALC.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDALC2.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDALVJ.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDAMaxxD.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDAPanasonic.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDARt.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDASamsu.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDASRSA.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDASRSD2.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDASRSD3.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDASRSL.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDX.INF
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDX01.INF
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDX104D.INF
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDX861A.INF
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDXApple.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDXBPCAI.INF
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDXCPC.inf
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDXHP880.INF
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDXHPAIO.INF
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDXHPBPC.INF
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDXHPNB.INF
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDXLC.INF
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDXLC2.INF
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDXLVJ.INF
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDXMaxxD.INF
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDXPanasonic.INF
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDXRT.INF
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDXSamsu.INF
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDXSRSA.INF
drivers\Realtek ALC889\HDXSRSL.INF
drivers\Realtek ALC889\MicCal.exe
drivers\Realtek ALC889\Monfilt.sys
drivers\Realtek ALC889\OAO17Afx.sys
drivers\Realtek ALC889\RTAIODAT.DAT
drivers\Realtek ALC889\RTCOMDLL.dll
drivers\Realtek ALC889\RTHDCPL.exe
drivers\Realtek ALC889\RtkAudioService.exe
drivers\Realtek ALC889\RtkCoInstIIXP.dll
drivers\Realtek ALC889\RtkCoLDRXP.dll
drivers\Realtek ALC889\RtkHDAud.sys
drivers\Realtek ALC889\RtlCPAPI.dll
drivers\Realtek ALC889\RTLCPL.exe
drivers\Realtek ALC889\RtlUpd.exe
drivers\Realtek ALC889\RTSndMgr.cpl
drivers\Realtek ALC889\SkyTel.exe
drivers\Realtek ALC889\SoundMan.exe
drivers\Realtek ALC889\vncutil.exe

drivers\Realtek RTL8111E\netrtle.cat
drivers\Realtek RTL8111E\Netrtle.inf
drivers\Realtek RTL8111E\Rtenic.sys
drivers\Realtek RTL8111E\Rtenicxp.sys
drivers\Realtek RTL8111E\RtNicprop32.DLL
drivers\Realtek RTL8111E\RTNUninst32.dll

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One small update:

1. SIIG SATA 6 gb/s 2S1P PCIe

- Create a folder "drivers\SIIG SATA"
- Download http://www.siig.com/...08/02-1272a.zip and unpack it.
- Go to "32bit".
- Move the following files to "drivers\SIIG SATA":
mv91xx.cat
mv91xx.inf
mv91xx.sys
mvxxmm.sys
txtsetup.oem

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I've managed to finish the driver merging script. I need to do some final testing first though. Please let me know when you've finished preparing the folders ;)

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Hello. Thank you for providing this information. I managed to recover one of the Symantec backup images using easeus restoration software.

It was eye-opening to try to use the Symantec system recovery CD. They have a "recover anywhere" option that I was unable to install a single driver with.

Thankfully, your last post had all of the information that was needed. I booted the recovered partition into safe mode and did battle with SBS and the hardware manufacturer CDs for hours. My only weapon was a priceless information you provided in the last post, which is the reason that our SBS installation is now fully restored and performing drastically better than ever. :D

You guys are doing truly great work! I feel like an undeserving recipient and am immeasurably grateful for your help and good nature. You should know that you were a key factor in keeping our server installation alive. The MS Access hub replica that I use for my practice runs on this server. While the installation is primarily a home one, I operate an office-less single provider diagnostics service that must access the server.

Since Microsoft dropped support for Access replication, I've become entirely dependent on our current server installation. David Fenton, Microsoft's replication guru set up my replication scheme and sadly died a year and a half ago. All would have been lost without recovery to new hardware.

How can I thank you for what you did? One thing is certain, I will never forget this fortunate encounter. :)

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In fact, I hoped that we would actually try the direct driver integration :whistle: but it seems that you've managed to get everything done without it ;)

Anyway, while working on this stuff I've learnt a lot about integrating drivers, especially mass storage drivers. I still need to give some final touches to the script. I'll add information about it here later.

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