[steveothehighlander]

Will XP be supported at all until 2019?

cdob, on 18 June 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:
Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 is based on XP.
http://www.microsoft...ready-2009.aspx
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Mainstream support until April 2014. Extended support until April 2019.


Ask again in 2015.

Either with Security Update, or Anything? Can we petition MS??can We do Anything?

XP FOREVER!

[vinifera]

XP will not
and POS Ready is threated as different product, at least from their end...

also in business world its in their interest to shut down XP for good

[cluberti]

You can petition all you'd like, but most software companies don't find it very wise to support a product no one is purchasing anymore. Also, Windows 7 is quite a worthy successor to Windows XP, and that's 2 major versions beyond it. XP was released in 2001, and we'll still get security update support for XP until April of 2014, almost 13 years after it was released. With how good Windows 7 is, I'd probably recommend looking to upgrade to Windows 7 before April 2014 (Windows 7 is supported until January of 2020).

[tomasz86]

Is there any list of updates available for Windows Embedded POSReady 2009?

If it's really based on XP and the updates are compatible then you could port some of them even now as XP is in the extended support phase while that one is still receives mainstream support.

This post has been edited by tomasz86: 12 August 2012 - 06:54 AM

[steveothehighlander]

cluberti, on 11 August 2012 - 10:59 PM, said:

You can petition all you'd like, but most software companies don't find it very wise to support a product no one is purchasing anymore. Also, Windows 7 is quite a worthy successor to Windows XP, and that's 2 major versions beyond it. XP was released in 2001, and we'll still get security update support for XP until April of 2014, almost 13 years after it was released. With how good Windows 7 is, I'd probably recommend looking to upgrade to Windows 7 before April 2014 (Windows 7 is supported until January of 2020).

If that is the case, what did this quote mean: Quote
Mainstream support until April 2014. Extended support until April 2019.
Also, if l upgrade to 7, will my discs/cd's be read by 7? Will l be able to transfer data? My XP is working beautifully and l use Chrome for the most part & Avira AV, SuperAntispyware, Spybot & Malwarebytes antimalware. Also Java Tools Spyware Guard.....so therefore, l should be good, right? l love my XP!

[-X-]

You should be continuously backing up your data. So it would just be a matter of restoring it to 7 from your backup.
You're good on XP.

"will my discs/cd's be read by 7?"
I don't know what that means.

[Glenn9999]

The real question is if they will allow activation past 2015 or 2019 or whenever.

Bricking new installs of XP from the media that's out there will be more of a scandal than not making security updates.

[MagicAndre1981]

steveothehighlander, on 12 August 2012 - 10:33 AM, said:

Mainstream support until April 2014. Extended support until April 2019.

WinXP is already in extended support. About which do you talk? POSready?

[tomasz86]

MagicAndre1981, on 12 August 2012 - 12:46 PM, said:

WinXP is already in extended support. About which do you talk? POSready?

Probably POSReady 2009:
http://www.microsoft...ready-2009.aspx

Edit: A trial version of the OS is available here:
http://www.microsoft...s.aspx?id=11196

Edit2: I've just had a look at it and it seems to be a modified version of XP SP3 which probably means that it will be possible to prepare unofficial updates for XP (and 2K too) until 2019

This post has been edited by tomasz86: 12 August 2012 - 01:57 PM

[submix8c]

(sigh...) Chiming in... Look at this older descriptive.

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for use on POS devices such as self-checkout, information kiosks, and point of sale devices

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Windows Embedded for Point of Service is the only operating system platform to provide Plug and Play functionality for retail peripherals such as cash drawers, scanners, POS keyboards, and receipt printers.

IOW, it's not a Desktop/Notebook OS. It follows that any of the "POS" Windows OS' are of the same ilk and targets certain types of business hardware, hence the "extended support" not applicable to XP as we know it.

[steveothehighlander]

-X-, on 12 August 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

You should be continuously backing up your data. So it would just be a matter of restoring it to 7 from your backup.
You're good on XP.

"will my discs/cd's be read by 7?"
I don't know what that means.

Excuse that please...l have cds/discs that you place in the disc drive drawer to save/read data....CD Roms? If l save my data on a disc thats been formated to my XP pc, can l just put that cd into a new Windows 7 disc and it will read it? Thanks for your time and patience.

[steveothehighlander]

tomasz86, on 12 August 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:

MagicAndre1981, on 12 August 2012 - 12:46 PM, said:

WinXP is already in extended support. About which do you talk? POSready?

Probably POSReady 2009:
http://www.microsoft...ready-2009.aspx

Edit: A trial version of the OS is available here:
http://www.microsoft...s.aspx?id=11196

Edit2: I've just had a look at it and it seems to be a modified version of XP SP3 which probably means that it will be possible to prepare unofficial updates for XP (and 2K too) until 2019

l have sp 3, where will it be possible to get "unofficial" updates from?
thanks for your help. btw what is POS(Point of Service?)

This post has been edited by steveothehighlander: 12 August 2012 - 03:35 PM

[Agorima]

steveothehighlander, on 12 August 2012 - 03:28 PM, said:

-X-, on 12 August 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

You should be continuously backing up your data. So it would just be a matter of restoring it to 7 from your backup.
You're good on XP.

"will my discs/cd's be read by 7?"
I don't know what that means.

Excuse that please...l have cds/discs that you place in the disc drive drawer to save/read data....CD Roms? If l save my data on a disc thats been formated to my XP pc, can l just put that cd into a new Windows 7 disc and it will read it? Thanks for your time and patience.

Your CDs can be read on Windows 7.

This post has been edited by Agorima: 12 August 2012 - 04:44 PM

[tomasz86]

Check this comparison out:

 CropperCapture33.jpg (133.03K)
Number of downloads: 38

It seems that POSReady 2009 is just a cut-down version of XP SP3. The files should be inter-compatible.

[Tripredacus]

tomasz86, on 12 August 2012 - 06:52 AM, said:

Is there any list of updates available for Windows Embedded POSReady 2009?

If it's really based on XP and the updates are compatible then you could port some of them even now as XP is in the extended support phase while that one is still receives mainstream support.

There is a list but you need to have a Microsoft Partner account to (potentially) get there. Usually, most communications and support for Embedded products go through an Embedded Partner.

There are some differences with POSReady 2009 than just XP. As an example, some drivers that work fine in XP won't work on POSReady 2009. And there are differences with the updates. You definately can't just put a POSReady 2009 update onto XP, you typically get that "minimum requirements" error.

[tomasz86]

Actually it really is XP

I've downloaded and installed the TRIAL version.

The installation process is very different:

Spoiler

but after that...

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What's important is this:

Spoiler

I've checked the available updates and except a few (less than 5) for Windows XP Embedded the rest of them were all normal XP updates. At the moment there seem to be no difference between a normal XP and this one. The most interesting thing is what will happen in 2014 after XP is no longer supported. Of course you won't be able to directly apply updates for XP Embedded into XP Home/Pro but if the files are almost identical then it should be possible to slipstream them or install by modifying the M$ hotfix installer. In my opinion this has huge potential

If you're interested here you can see how the whole setup looks like: http://imgur.com/a/cT6jS

[Tripredacus]

tomasz86, on 13 August 2012 - 03:05 PM, said:

The installation process is very different:

Yes, from what I can tell the installer is some early version of what Vista uses.
http://www.msfn.org/...post__p__975350

[mlewy]

yet dont get full support =(

[Agorima]

I'm using Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 right now on my netbook.
It runs faster than XP, the installation is only 700 MB with the basic programs which are present on XP, every driver works fine.
Why the Micro$oft doesn't do OSes like this one?

[Tripredacus]

Agorima, on 24 August 2012 - 07:43 AM, said:

I'm using Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 right now on my netbook.
It runs faster than XP, the installation is only 700 MB with the basic programs which are present on XP, every driver works fine.
Why the Micro$oft doesn't do OSes like this one?

All the different OS types (retail, oem, enterprise, embedded) while they can be basically similar, the real differences between them is how they can be used.