[Agorima]

Tripredacus, on 24 August 2012 - 07:54 AM, said:

Agorima, on 24 August 2012 - 07:43 AM, said:

I'm using Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 right now on my netbook.
It runs faster than XP, the installation is only 700 MB with the basic programs which are present on XP, every driver works fine.
Why the Micro$oft doesn't do OSes like this one?

All the different OS types (retail, oem, enterprise, embedded) while they can be basically similar, the real differences between them is how they can be used.

If there are some software incompatible with this XP variant, I'll report them.

Edit: Seems that many programs can be installed without problems.
But now I'm returning to the normal XP, because the temperature of the diode jump up, for example, from 82° C to 84° C in a second. When the XP variant doesn't work, the temperature jump down, for example, from 83° C to 81° C in a second.
Although the diode doesn't go over 90° C, it's better to "relaxing" it

This post has been edited by Agorima: 24 August 2012 - 10:40 AM

[xpclient]

As far as I understand, updates for Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 are the same ones produced *for* Windows XP Professional. Or am I mistaken? Are separate updates produced for Windows Embedded POSReady 2009? It means if Microsoft decides to not produce security updates post April 2014 for Windows XP Professional, there is no advantage to "extended support" that Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 receives. Technical support incidents will be covered but no hotfixes to patch vulnerabilities will be created. Can anyone show me proof that updates for Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 are different and distinct from Windows XP Professional?

The only distinct updates released for Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 are for the write filter and registry filter components. What this however opens up is a possibility that Microsoft will make available security updates to custom support agreement holders till 2019.

This post has been edited by xpclient: 27 August 2012 - 10:09 AM

[tomasz86]

This is a full list of components available on WU:



At the moment almost all of them are exactly the same as in Windows XP. There are only a few for Windows XP Embedded... but if the system is indeed going to be supported then M$ will be obliged to release security updates, won't they? If yes then there's hope that updates will be produced after 2014 too.

[Ascii2]

I have used Windows XP Embedded, Windows XP Embedded with Service Pack 2, and the re-branded Service pack 3 version of the product, "Windows Embedded Standard" or sometimes "Windows Embedded 2009" or "Windows Embedded Standard 2009" (this is when the namings of the embedded operating systems become much more confusing).

Windows XP Embedded (and its variants at other Service Pack levels) is a software suite that builds an instance of Windows XP using the many sets of components (organized using SQL database). The components are Windows XP components that come with Windows XP Professional plus other sets of components that do not come with Windows XP (such components are or were, however, available on the Microsoft website in various places for download).

I believe that instances of Windows XP Embedded could all the components of Windows XP Professional (I, however, would use a less components) as well as just the bare components for Windows XP to run.

The updates specific to Windows XP Embedded typically address issues that do not manifest in the other version of Windows XP (typically licensing files bugs).

I have not used the "Windows Embedded POSReady 2009" variant, but I expect that it is a re-branded version of Windows XP Embedded with predefined sets of components that are thought to be used at a point-of-sale. Also, from looking at the pictures provided by tomasz86, it seems that the POSReady version comes with an installer that may fully install the Windows XP components. Windows XP Embedded distribution was mostly manually installed, with only an initialization at first boot (which is probably where the REGSVR32 entries are run and the Windows Registration files are merged). The POSReady version seems to fully install the instance of Windows XP.

This post has been edited by Ascii2: 02 September 2012 - 02:18 PM

[Ascii2]

tomasz86, on 27 August 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

if the system is indeed going to be supported then M$ will be obliged to release security updates, won't they? If yes then there's hope that updates will be produced after 2014 too.

In the past Microsoft has been inconsistent regarding correctly supporting products they should support for the entirety of the product planned life.

I suspect that Microsoft will try to determine the impact to itself of failing to support the Windows XP Embedded series and whether it is preferable to fail to correctly support.

[vinifera]

take in consideration that they don't want to give security updates later
to claim XP (NT 5.1/2) are less secure than NT 6 series

thus the famous "upgrade to Windows ..." whatever its name is