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MagicAndre1981

Trace why Windows 8 boots, shutsdown or hibernates slowly

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WinLogonInit and starting all programs at autostart is slow. i need the ETL file to see more.

You use the old boot. Have you disabled the new Win8 fastBoot?

I know that win8 fastboot is disable.... i don't know why it is disable.

how can i re-enable win8 fastboot? i go upload etl file and put the link here later.

Edit:

Link to download ETL file:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11166976/boot_BASE%2BCSWITCH%2BDRIVERS%2BPOWER_1.etl

hope results...

thanks

Gonçalo

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you get some high CPU usage and the services SSDPSRV,

run this command to capture CPU profiling data


xbootmgr -trace boot -traceFlags BASE+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER -stackwalk profile

The fastBoot depends on Hibernation. Have you disabled hibernation to free some space on your OCZ-VERTEX2? Also try to run the fastBoot command at the end.

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No, i don't disable anything...

Maybe some program that I have installed have disabled hibernation ... is possible?

how do I run the command fastboot?

I'm uploading the file ELT, once you've put the link here.

Thanks for help.

Gonçalo

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I posted the fastBoot command at the end of the 1st post.

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By default Windows should use the fastBoot if you simply click shutdown. When you use 3rd party tools, you must make sure they support the new FastStartUp.

The Firewall and Windows Defender cause a high CPU usage during boot.. Try a different Firewall/AV suite.

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Hi MagicAndre,

I'm sorry it took me a while to respond, I've been a bit busy. I've send you a link to a ETL file. The trace ran for about 130 seconds.

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boot is ok (10s to UI and fully booted in 16s). Before you stopped the trace I see a high disk IO on the WD drive (skydrive syncs data on drive O:).

Office also syncs data and MSE scans the data. this seams to be too much stress for the WD green. I hate WD green drives because they cause hangs. reduce the IO activity for the WD green drive and also disable the Power saving for the HDD.

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Ah yes, I have the drive mostly for backup purposes, but with one partition where skydrive syncs to, with the new office also syncing. Just curious though, should the same delay occur when I disconnect the drive? I did, and it did occur. I'll look into the power saving. I'm guessing it should help if I move the O: partition to the caviar black drive?

And just for my understanding of the traces: you mention activity before I stopped the trace, this is during the hanging or after?

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I can't see see if you have a hang or not (not with the public version we have). I only saw a lot of DiskIO (caused by the syncs) at the end of the trace. So I think you stopped the trace after having the hangs.

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Hi again,

I've taken a closer look to my caviar green drive, and it turns out it has bad sectors. So you were right abour a damaged HDD. I'm going to replace it with a non-green drive. Thanks for all your help :)

Edit: Or maybe not. Why are tools inconsistent on this matter? CrystalDiskInfo and Easeus partition manager gave 2 bad sectors (CrystalDisk via S.M.A.R.T., Easeus scanned the whole drive) and WD's own tool (scan) and the one I use before (S.M.A.R.T.) didn't.

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I have no idea why the tools show different values. I would replace the drive.

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And that's what I'll do.

I'm sorry to have bothered you this much, I appreciate all the help :)

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Hi,

I wonder if someone can help me.

I have slow hibernation on Windows 8. (Fastboot is also very slow)

Normal boot is good.

The problem is the XML doesn't show what exactly is loading so slowly.

Overall duration of hibernation and resume is 178 seconds.

Hiberread is 63 seconds.

I also measured the time with a stopwatch and the suspending took several seconds while after BIOS the whole resume took about 170 seconds (which adds up perfectly with the overall time of the XML)

In hybrid boot hiberread showed 77 seconds but overall resume was 109 seconds.

summary_hibernation_after_hybrid_boot.zip

Should I add other attributes to the command?

P.S: Its a dual boot Windows 8 over XP on a logical drive

summary_hibernation.zip

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reading the hibernation file is slow:

hiberread="63872000"

This takes 64s. Which HDD do you use? Do you sue a SSD? Does the SSD has the latest firmware.

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Yes I saw it and whats more strange is that total time is 110 sec and the XML file doesn't show where that extra time is spent. But first lets address the 64 seconds hiberread.

Fujitsu Mobile MHV2080AH, ATA-100, 5400 rpm, Average seek time 12 ms, Buffer size 8 MB .

I don't think 64 seconds is normal. The hiberwrite is 10 seconds.

Its multiboot and on the XP it resumes from hibernate almost instantly.

I read somewhere that if the partition is not set as active it cant hibernate or something like that.

The Windows 8 partition is not active. Nevertheless it does hibernate. Only so slow.

Is that normal?

P.S.

On hybrid boot total time is 109 sec and hiberread is 77 sec

On hibernation total time is 178 sec and hiberread is 64 sec

That's according to the xml files I attached.

I'll do another track and attach again.

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do you run the HDD in AHCI mode?

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There is no option for that in the BIOS.

I ipdated the BIOS recently with the latest version from hp.

Its an old laptop pavilion dv5000

I think your point is to see if my hdd performs well enough. Its a normal old ATA hard drive nowhere near the speed of the new SSDs but to take THAT long to load I think something is wrong in the configuration or bootloader or master boot record, not that much with the hard drive itself.

Just my opinion.

I'll search more and if nothing works i'll try to reinstall windows 8 from cd room and/or edit the boot record

If you think of something else tell me.

By the way thanks for the good guide. It helps a lot

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By the way thanks for the good guide. It helps a lot

thanks.

But I have no real idea. The only thing you can try is to disable hibernation, defrag the HDD and activate hibernation again. Maybe the hibernation files to fragmented too much.

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Hello.

I have quite long Winlogon init phase, my monitor's dispay is black before the system shows me logon ui (after resolution is changed to native one), the blank screen holds for a quite time before system shows me its initial screen with clock in the lower left corner.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2-5mdG39PcAWWlhdzVlS0R4Rms/edit?usp=sharing - here is my trace with situation that matches the description above.

What do I need to do to solve this problem?

I would really appreciate help of this wonderful community. Thanks.

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RequestCredentials takes too long.

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Do you use a Microsoft online account?

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My Microsoft request credentials also take too long. Is there anyway to sign in without them but still get all of the administrative rights, etc, etc? Or make the Microsoft sign in faster?

=)

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I have no idea. I also had this with the CP, but it was gone with the RP.

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CP =Consumer Preview and RP = Release Preview

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