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Trace why Windows 8 boots, shutsdown or hibernates slowly

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Hi MagicAndre,
I'm hoping you can help me, I'm kinda lost. Whenever I start windows it gets to the desktop fairly quickly but some programs won't start. IE10 won't start at all and WMP12 start but doesn't respond, but suddenly everything pops up like they were waiting for something to end. Windows explorer, Firefox and most programs that dont need an internet connection don't have this problem. IE10 usually pops up about 10 seconds before the trace ends.
I'd appreciate it if you could help.

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boot is fine (12s to boot and fully booted in 25s).

Check your Western Digital Caviar Black for errors (chkdsk /F and SMART values).
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Hi!
Its me again. =P
So I reinstalled my whole operating system since I was not able to refresh or reset. Kept getting errors.
But now my startup is still at 50-60 and sometimes even 70 seconds. = /
What can I do now?

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upload a new trace file
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:hello: Check your inbox.

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RequestCredentials takes 11s. Also the Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002-1BD142 is busy during boot. Can you use the fastBoot command to trace the faster boot?
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Can you use the fastboot command to trace the faster boot?


How do I do that? Is the fast boot the selective boot? Cause that is how I always boot...?
And I set up the credentials to log me in automatically, why does it take so long? :wacko:

Edited by BDelsol, 14 March 2013 - 10:57 AM.


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I posted the command in the first post (at the end).

Do you use a local account or a MS account (LiveID)?
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Is this it?
xbootmgr -trace fastStartup -noPrepReboot -traceFlags BASE+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER -resultPath C:\TEMP

And yes, when setting up the computer it asked for a windows live account so I set it up. But I am not sure if I'm using an MS account or the local account? How do I find that out?

Edited by BDelsol, 14 March 2013 - 01:38 PM.


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fastBoot is fine:

<timing bootDoneViaExplorer="3278" bootDoneViaPostBoot="20778" osLoaderDuration="0" postBootRequiredIdleTime="10000" postBootDisturbance="7500" 

3s to the UI and fully booted in 10s. Try to avoid the traditional boot (only select reboot if you really need).
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fastBoot is fine:

<timing bootDoneViaExplorer="3278" bootDoneViaPostBoot="20778" osLoaderDuration="0" postBootRequiredIdleTime="10000" postBootDisturbance="7500" 

3s to the UI and fully booted in 10s. Try to avoid the traditional boot (only select reboot if you really need).


That's more like it! How do I fast boot every time I use my computer?
So there is no way to fix or tweak the traditional boot to speed it up? =/

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Windows uses the new startup when you select Shutdown from the UI (charms-Bar -> settings->On/off). If you use a custom tile which calls shutdown.exe make sure you add the /hybrid switch to the command line.
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Windows uses the new startup when you select Shutdown from the UI (charms-Bar -> settings->On/off). If you use a custom tile which calls shutdown.exe make sure you add the /hybrid switch to the command line.


Please forgive me but I have nooo idea what you just said! lol I don't mean to annoy you but you are so smart and knowledgeable and I really have no clue about these things. =/

Bare with me...So you are saying that my computer is already using the fast boot cause I always shut down my computer using the charms- bar-settings-on/off? That is how I have always shut down my computer, so how come it wasn't doing it before? = /

Can you please guide me in the correct steps to make sure that my computer always boots on fast boot? Pretty please?! =)

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By default Windows 8 will always use the new fast boot. How do you shutdown the PC?
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I shut it down by going to setting and then clicking the power button.
This blows! Then my computer, even on fast boot takes about 50 -60 seconds. I have an almost 11 year old laptop with windows XP that takes 50-55 seconds to boot. And the drivers and everything boot at 30 seconds.
How is this possible?
When I first got the computer it took 10 seconds to boot. I understand that I installed a lot of crap so it started to boot slower. But I reinstalled the whole operating system after that and there was no change. Could there be any tweaks that I can do to help with this?
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Create a new shortcut on the desktop with this commandline:

C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe /s /hybrid /t 0

now, make a rightclick and pin it to startscreen.

When you try to shutdown, click this link on the startscreen. Is this faster?
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The shutdown and the start up was significantly faster. =D If i shut down like this every time will it enable the fast startup each and every time? =)
Any more tweaks that you can share? I would love to know all of your windows little secrets. ;)

Also, I already sign in to the windows credentials automatically but it still takes a few seconds to sign me in. Do you know how I can completely disable the windows sign in credentials?

Edited by BDelsol, 17 March 2013 - 03:55 PM.


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So you only get the net fastStartup when using the command? this is wired. The startup ties should be now fast all the time (unless you need to do an old reboot after installing Updates for example).
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Oh Oh. That does not sounds good. =/
Yes, it is as fast as when I first bought the computer. But If I were to shutdown/restart the regular way, the computer sorts of lags for about 30 seconds in a weird grey screen after the first dell screen appears at startup.
Please help me. I want my computer to be as fast as when I first bought it! =/

Thank you again for all of your time. :thumbup

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boot is fine (12s to boot and fully booted in 25s).

Check your Western Digital Caviar Black for errors (chkdsk /F and SMART values).


Thanks foy your reply. I've checked the caviar, it gave no errors. I can't read SMART, but what I can guess with internet help is that everything's fine. If it's not a boot problem, can you point me in a right direction?
Actually, I've traced with only my OS ssd plugged in, same result, it also has most of the programs on it. May I ask why you were suspicious of the caviar drive?

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But If I were to shutdown/restart the regular way, the computer sorts of lags for about 30 seconds in a weird grey screen after the first dell screen appears at startup.


try to avoid this. Use the fastBoot as much as possible.


May I ask why you were suspicious of the caviar drive?


Windows Windows is so slow, it is often a damaged HDD.

Add -postBootDelay 300 to the command line and try to start the applications after boot. After you have captured the hangs, stop the bootlogging, zip and upload the ETL file.

Edited by MagicAndre1981, 18 March 2013 - 12:56 PM.

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Should I check the caviar drive as well? =P

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no, your delay comes from Entering the Password. Your HDD is fine.
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hello,

I already have windows installed since the beginning of the year, but lately it takes longer than normal to start, you can take a look at the boot trace to see what is my problem?

https://dl.dropbox.c...ummary_boot.xml

Thanks
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WinLogonInit and starting all programs at autostart is slow. i need the ETL file to see more.

You use the old boot. Have you disabled the new Win8 fastBoot?
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