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First I want to commend Bristols and tomasz86 and everybody else for their heroic efforts as regards w2k.

I'm putting together the files now for a build. There are three files on Bristols list which I was unable to get hold of.

1. Windows2000-UU-KB968006-x86-Global.exe, for installer 31, is linked to SkyDrive. The other SkyDrive files download without a problem. However, that file requires an account. After I open a MS account, it comes back with:--
quote "This item might not exist or is no longer available. This item might have been deleted, expired, or you might not have permission to view it. Contact the owner of this item for more information." In any case, skydrive says it's not accessible."

[unrelated rant, but wow ... when you click on the "What is [SkyDrive]" page, MS returns a message ... "You can also use a Microsoft account [like SkyDrive] to sign in to any PC running Windows 8." hmmm? sign in to any pc from a SkyDrive account ... I guess they got it backwards, otherwise it sound dangerous.]

2. any chance anyone might have an extermal link to WINDOWS2000-KB2570947-X86-CUSTOM-ENU.EXE from the 90+meg security iso, Windows-KB913086-201109.iso. The other file is IE6.0SP1-KB2722913-WINDOWS2000-X86-ENU.EXE from the Windows-KB913086-201208.iso. The former 93 meg, is the latter is 3.3 gig ... I'm still on dialup at the moment so it's out of the question.

Can HFSLIP slipstream the c++ and basic runtime redistrubutables?

tomasz had done some rollups for .NET11 and .NET20, dated 15 may 2011 and 15 june 2011 respectively ... are they still good? can they be slipstreamed with hfslip? As I remember it, .NET could not be slipstreamed with hfslip ...?

does hfslip set the 48-bit LBA for larger drives.

If file management and disc volume requirements for hfslip trial runs prove too complex for me, can I manually run tomasz86's w2000 unofficial fixes?

@ Bristols that is an amazing list you are maintaining. That is a HUGE amount of work and I truly thank you for your time and effort.
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1. The link is wrong. It's "Windows\2K\Updates" while it should be "Windows\2K\Updates2". Try it again after adding the "2".

2. Yes :yes: Try looking for it here (in case it's not available at the moment then you should wait for a few hours as the files are being uploaded right now ;)).


Can HFSLIP slipstream the c++ and basic runtime redistrubutables?

No but all MS VC++ libraries are included in UURollup (ENU). Which "basic runtime redistributables" do you mean exactly?


tomasz had done some rollups for .NET11 and .NET20, dated 15 may 2011 and 15 june 2011 respectively ... are they still good? can they be slipstreamed with hfslip? As I remember it, .NET could not be slipstreamed with hfslip ...?

I've been working on new .NET packages and they are going to be ready in the near future. At the moment if you want to slipstream .NET1.1/2.0 you can just use the OnePiece's addons:

http://www.ryanvm.ne...opic.php?t=6717
http://www.ryanvm.ne...opic.php?t=8315

They can be slipstreamed from HFAAO folder.


does hfslip set the 48-bit LBA for larger drives.

Yes if you put "reg.exe" in HFTOOLS. The fix is also automatically turned on when USP5.1 is slipstreamed.


If file management and disc volume requirements for hfslip trial runs prove too complex for me, can I manually run tomasz86's w2000 unofficial fixes?

Of course there is no problem with manually installing the unofficial updates :)


By the way, if bandwidth is a problem for you then I'd recommend using Update Rollup 2 instead of hundreds of single fixes. It's 50 MB (UR2) vs 200 MB (single files).
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thank you! tomasz!! and Bristols and and and msfn team.

the new links were good ... thanks

now that I've gathered all the files, I think I'll try the rollup method (typical!)

since I'd like 48bit LBA, I thought I'd try w2ksp51

I'm starting from a 2000sp4 source

gurglemeyer's usp51.zip from the majorgeeks link is a zip
inside is "w2ksp51.exe" which is 219,932,672 b, dated 11/13/2004

there is some other stuff in the zip that may or may not be needed (-?)
(1) cd-autorun files,
(2) a dir support tools, containing
(3) resourse kit 2000rkst.msi with a support.cab 10,621,350b, 11/13/2004 and
(4) a "dtc" folder, containing
(5) another copy of 2000rkst.msi and a different support.cab 11,632,058b, with the same date

do I use only the w2ksp51.exe file or do I need others as well?

if only the w2ksp51.ext file, then which version do I use?
majorgeeks zip version is 219,932,672 b dated 11/13/2004
kurt aust version is 219,898,368 b dated 7/14/2006
thus kurt's is 34k smaller and 20 months later

(kurt aust copy available here ...
http://www.msfn.org/...creation-guide/
he calls it "Unofficial Windows 2000 Service Pack 5.1.2195.24 Refresh"
when recompiled from his three part 7z file, the md5 value checks)

any preference? doesn't matter?

which HFSLIP folder does w2ksp51.exe go in?

I got copies of UptateRollup2 and UURollup-v10c
Windows2000-UURollup-v10c-x86-ENU.exe 50,467,760 b
Windows2000-UpdateRollup2-x86-ENU.exe 48,821,760 b

which HFSLIP folder do they go in?

the onepiece files for .net11 and .net20 are cab files
OnePiece_w2kdotNET11v4322-2497_ENU.cab 14,171,768 b
OnePiece_w2kdotNET20v50727-3639_ENU.cab 21,955,670 b

just checking that it's ok to put his cab files in HFAAO folder?

I misspoke when I mentioned basic runtime redistributable(s) in plural.
I was thinking of VB6sp6 (KB290887)
I assume it's included in UURollup with the C++ RTEs?

I'm very excited ... other than /sources/ files, I need only 5 files
1 gurglemeyer, 2 onepiece, 2 tomasz86
... if that works it will be WONDERFUL!!

I read through the SP52 thread on this site and think it's wonderful
the team support you have assembled ... it's fantastic

here's why ... did you notice that M$ says that you can connect to ANY PC running windows 8 from your SkyDrive account.

I don't think that's a Freudian slip. Microsoft is integrating skydrive into their new operating systems.

They will do exactly what they did to WordPerfect ... put all other OSs and all other "cloud accounts" on a treadmill. Thus only skyDrive looks fast. It's important to build alternatives to any monopoly, and M$ is pentagon enforced monopoly. I like the ReactOS effort as well.

after I slipstream a 2k iso and burn cd, I have some pretty humble quesitons

(I'm FINALLY graduating from w98se I promise, really really this time, I promise ... haha!! 98 will always be the greatest! but I'm looking foward to a new life with 2k with help from friends at msfn)

I'll have basic dumb questions in two categories (1) hardware setup, and (2) admin and user account setups in 2k and installing software

regarding w2k-hardware questions
like which channels to mount hdds, how to populate PCI, bios settings
integrating drivers into a cd
should I open another thread under 2000? or under Hardware?

mobo is
MSI P43-neo3F,
American Megatrends BIOS 2005, v.02.61,
P43 northbridge, ICH10 southbridge,
Intel Core2Duo e7200, LGA775, 2.53ghz, 3mb L2, 1066 mhz fsb,
2 gig DDR2 800mhz cas4,
6 sata-II -- ICH10 (sata 1 to 6)
2 sata-II -- JMicron JMB363 (sata 7 to 8)
1 IDE port, 1 FDD port
Realtec ALC888 audio
PCIe-16 w/ MSI nVidia GeForce 7300Gs 64 meg DDR2,
PCI with adaptec AHA1640? scsi2 (scanner)
laserjet 4000 LPT printer

for boot hdd, I'm thinking of connectcing to JMicron chip, sata channel 8
that way the JMicron chip will be dedicated to one system hdd, with no hdd to conflict
1 50g active partition 50g for w2k os + all program files
1 200g ext. part. for backups, HFSLIP builds, etc.

on ICH10 channel 1, 750 gig sataII hdd with 1 ext.part for main data files
on ICH10 channel 4, 750 gig sataII hdd with 1 ext.part for data file backups
on IDE port hdds from 98se system

I want to setup the system with Terabyte Backup software, such that on shutdown, w2k runs a shutdown batch which tests to see if the cd drive has the cd disk with backup program, and if so, then reboot system from cd-drive and not usual hdd

Terabyte will then run a autobatch which asks (or looks for a file on c:\ with instructions) to (1) preserve current image for future default backups, or (2) to obliterate existing system and restore system hdd from a known safe image ... it takes about 20 minutes on a 733mhz system ... which is no big deal on shutdown

then bootups are clean and I don't need to "trust" my antivirus program. I haven't used antivirus in ten years or more ... 98se is the greatest ... I trust my backup image instead.

I understand BlackWingCat has ICH10 driver patch for Core2Duo systems ...

probably should move this thread to 2000 OS section, and title it "Core2Duo drivers" ?

Edited by Molecule, 04 September 2012 - 09:00 PM.

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You like writing LONG posts, don't you :D

I don't think there's any problem in keeping everything in one topic (this one). There may be a few different issues discussed but they are all interrelated with each other, aren't they?


gurglemeyer's usp51.zip from the majorgeeks link is a zip
inside is "w2ksp51.exe" which is 219,932,672 b, dated 11/13/2004

there is some other stuff in the zip that may or may not be needed (-?)
(1) cd-autorun files,
(2) a dir support tools, containing
(3) resourse kit 2000rkst.msi with a support.cab 10,621,350b, 11/13/2004 and
(4) a "dtc" folder, containing
(5) another copy of 2000rkst.msi and a different support.cab 11,632,058b, with the same date

do I use only the w2ksp51.exe file or do I need others as well?

Are you sure that you downloaded the right file? It should be dated like this (the exact time may differ depending on your time zone)?

Attached File  CropperCapture1.jpg   19.16KB   4 downloads

You only need w2ksp51.exe. You should put it in HF and you should also remove all IE CABs from HFCABS.


I got copies of UptateRollup2 and UURollup-v10c
Windows2000-UURollup-v10c-x86-ENU.exe 50,467,760 b
Windows2000-UpdateRollup2-x86-ENU.exe 48,821,760 b

which HFSLIP folder do they go in?

They go in HF :) and please check the information files:

https://dl.dropbox.c...10c-x86-ENU.txt
https://dl.dropbox.c...up2-x86-ENU.txt

You can remove all updates listed there from your HFSLIP folders. They are already included in the two rollups.


the onepiece files for .net11 and .net20 are cab files
OnePiece_w2kdotNET11v4322-2497_ENU.cab 14,171,768 b
OnePiece_w2kdotNET20v50727-3639_ENU.cab 21,955,670 b

just checking that it's ok to put his cab files in HFAAO folder?

:yes: You should also (just in case) put "reg.exe" in HFEXPERT\WIN\system32. And please rename the NETFX CABs to NETFX11.cab and NETFX20.cab. HFSLIP may have problems with long filenames.


I misspoke when I mentioned basic runtime redistributable(s) in plural.
I was thinking of VB6sp6 (KB290887)
I assume it's included in UURollup with the C++ RTEs?

I'm not sure now but I'll try to check it later. There are some VB6 libraries included in UURollup.


I'm very excited ... other than /sources/ files, I need only 5 files
1 gurglemeyer, 2 onepiece, 2 tomasz86
... if that works it will be WONDERFUL!!

It's not that perfect yet :no: :lol: You still need some other files. Below you can check my HFSLIP folder structure:

Spoiler

It may not be 100% perfect so please let me know if there's anything missing!


integrating drivers into a cd
should I open another thread under 2000? or under Hardware?

I understand BlackWingCat has ICH10 driver patch for Core2Duo systems ...

probably should move this thread to 2000 OS section, and title it "Core2Duo drivers" ?

Let's keep it here. I've almost finished a script which automatically adds drivers to driver.cab.

Edited by tomasz86, 05 September 2012 - 04:16 AM.

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MJAOR Big Thanks!

Edited by Molecule, 07 September 2012 - 10:51 AM.


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Why have you edited the last post?

I've already started writing an answer :ph34r:

Edited by tomasz86, 07 September 2012 - 01:10 PM.

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tomasz ... plea for a few days I found lots of files that I had thought I couldn't

and I had discovered all kinds of amazing frustrations

I felt terrible that in my response I had said I couldn't find files

when it was my lack of knowledge about how msfn search engine works

I was so angry when I found out how it worked, I started to rewrite my post with a terrible rant -- and I'm still miffed

anyway, I found a lot of the "missing" files when I found the link to your dropbox account on your webpage (doh!!)

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here is some of my data from my explorations with msfn search engine

a search on "926139" returns 5 results
a search on "KB926139" returns 19 results
a search on "Windows2000-UU-KB926139-v2-x86-ENU.exe" returns 376 results

I'm sorry, but that just won't work ... we HAVE to be able to get reliable searches on KB numbers, internal or not

apparently the search engine only recognizes whole words that are space parsed

oddly 5 + 19 + 376 = 400 threads

400 threads times 2-3 pages per thread = say, 1,000 page reloads = 1,000 google ads = revenue$$

(also, the way msfn code loads their pages, the google ads jump up and down on my screen -- very annoying)

anyway, I might be on dialup, but I KNOW there aren't 400 results on that search

... just no way ... so something else is going on

so try another search

search on "tomasz86-yumeyao_wic_addon_1_2_0.7z" returns 141 results

This morning the top link given on that search was http://www.msfn.org/...__fromsearch__1

and it was "unattended 2000" with a comment by you ... so, yea! ok, I'll scroll through that thread to look for the link

but when I run through the pages (only 2 thank goodness, some go to 30s), guess what!!

"tomasz86-yumeyao_wic_addon_1_2_0.7z" does not appear ANYWHERE in the thread

whoa! can you imagine my shock

in medicine, a false positive like that is called malpractice and fraud, it can lead to death

msfh search engine is returning false positives

so, I assumed that I must have done something wrong again

so, I reran the search picked the first thread (same), ran its pages, and searched them using the browser ctrl-F...

Confirmed! ... the required search string ain't in the first thread listed

the first link of a search engine request is a false positive ...

how much time are we all supposed to have

it was very frustrating ... I was so hot I thought I better just cool my jets ... when I get cynical I can really let it roll

so now I understand that the msfn search engine is unreliable ... it returns false positives in threads that don't have the string, and if a search is done on partial text (parsed on _ or - or " ") it is obviously excluding good links ... from 376 down to 5 ... something's wrong

I don't want to criticize the day to day board monitors, so I pulled the rant ... they have their hands full and there is no ideal search engine that will satisfy google and the owners

but their search engine assumes that cluess users have infinite time to keep reloading google ads for each false positive page

I'm trying to build a new machine, so that I can hook up to a faster connection

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hey -- I really like the layout you used for your dropbox account

that's very sweet ... I'm going to use it myself

you do know, eventually you will have to ditch the x-hundred bandaids of HF code, all of which started from back when

it's inevitable someday ... we're up to bandaid-J already

at some point the inevitable will happen .. .the bandaids become unmanageable

HFSLIP uses a file structure that is HF centric
meanwhile your dropbox shows how self-obvious file structure can maintain itself
it's user friendly and user centric

HFSLIP broke new ground, so hat's off to its brave creators!

eventually they broke ground that led us to the Rollups

now, the rollups do what hfslip used to do

it'll be so easy to maintain a straight line of code

just a thought ...

so it was a frustrating day

I'll finish my downloading and setup a build and let's see what happens ...

meanwhile my core2duo temps seem high so I'm putting another post in 2000

using 2000 forum because without blackwingcat, core2duo is really XP

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tomasz ... plea for a few days I found lots of files that I had thought I couldn't

and I had discovered all kinds of amazing frustrations

I felt terrible that in my response I had said I couldn't find files

when it was my lack of knowledge about how msfn search engine works

I was so angry when I found out how it worked, I started to rewrite my post with a terrible rant -- and I'm still miffed

No problem... but please don't do it again :angry: :P There were actually several good points in that post!


anyway, I found a lot of the "missing" files when I found the link to your dropbox account on your webpage (doh!!)

It's because I've changed the link. That's why the previous one didn't work for you. You should be able to find all unofficial updates in the Dropbox download archive.... but I still haven't finished sorting everything so please let me know if you can't find any of the updates. Just in case something doesn't work please always try to check my website and the Unofficial SP 5.2 for Microsoft Windows 2000 topic for news.


here is some of my data from my explorations with msfn search engine

a search on "926139" returns 5 results
a search on "KB926139" returns 19 results
a search on "Windows2000-UU-KB926139-v2-x86-ENU.exe" returns 376 results

I'm sorry, but that just won't work ... we HAVE to be able to get reliable searches on KB numbers, internal or not

You may want to try Google with adding "site:http://www.msfn.org/board". It works much better than the built-in search engine.


(also, the way msfn code loads their pages, the google ads jump up and down on my screen -- very annoying)

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HFSLIP uses a file structure that is HF centric
meanwhile your dropbox shows how self-obvious file structure can maintain itself
it's user friendly and user centric

You may also find this small text file useful:

https://dl.dropbox.c...pdates/list.txt (it's being updated very often)


now, the rollups do what hfslip used to do

it'll be so easy to maintain a straight line of code

I wouldn't really say so. Rollups still need to be slipstreamed using HFSLIP. It will be possible to integrate USP5.1 without any 3rd party tools but it's not possible in case of simple updates and update rollups.
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wow ... submix8c (see below) ... I don't know how that happened

the t-key on my keyboard started sticking and then everything went haywire ... with new screens etc.

the two posts were identical -- or anyway the second was intended as an edit of the first, so, I'll delete this one

I think my keyboard died ... I shut down and plugged in another keyboard ... it wouldn't pass bios test

this is a third kb -- it seems ok but now the space bar is sticking ... yikes the kb buffer in my mobo is dying??

we had a huge lightling strike ... blew all the fuses in the house ... hope my mobos survived ... supposedly they were protected by UPS

Edited by Molecule, 10 September 2012 - 09:57 AM.


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edited to remove chatty stuff, it's WAY too long as it is, and full of errors

tomasz86, thanks for the effort at setting up the 2k archive ... it’s REALLY helpful for me

you were right I shouldn't have deleted a prior post from more than a few days ago ... I hope I have reconstructed it, and then add some further research

I’ll go thru your files one by one, but I have an embarassing question to add at the end
(If a file on your list didn't raise a question, it's not listed)

sorry for the length -- I don't like posts this long but it should read fast

hopefully this should wrap up the file list questions

a lot of the length concerns the 3 usb files

=1=gurglemeyers final version
--w2ksp51

the majorgeeks version is 04/19/2006 22:43 EST(GMT-4 or -5) v.2195.21_final 219,932,672 b, md5 6a4e816c9e26fc44bb4b576de06da82d

on his page for 2k with nlite, Kurt Aust posts a “refresh” version http://www.msfn.org/...creation-guide/
07/14/06 06:44 EDT (GMT-4) v.2195.24_refresh 291,898,368 b, md5 b86f9385cbf2fbd3053492fd00cfa598

majorgeeks site has ~99k downloads -- stick with the final (majorgeeks April 06) version, per your screenshot

=2=DX9
--directx_Jun2010-W2KFP_redist.exe
in your opinion, is dx gaming is worth the weight? my video is GeForce 7300 with 256 meg DDR2 on core2duo e7200 with 2048 meg DDR2?

I have a copy of your directx_9c-W2KFP_redist.exe (cabs dated 23 jun 2011) ... if it's still any good

Thanks for posting a copy of your dx9 gaming x86-only on your archive site.

(deleted some worthless comments)

=3=
--Windows2000-KB2483185-x86-custom-ENU.EXE

this file is on your spoiler list, but not on Bristols’ list
it's also listed here http://www.ryanvm.ne...483185&start=93

=4=server rollup
--Windows2000-UpdateRollup2-SrvExt-v2-x86-ENU.exe

do you include server rollup in your 2K builds? ... may as well build the 2k slip cd with server, even if server doesn't get installed

=5= swflash
--Swflash.cab is v.11.4.402.265

this installs flash plugin for ie6sp1?
do you know if flash plugin for Firefox will conflict with flash plugin for IE6?, if I have different versions flash?
I'll probably just leave it out, and install flash by exe
there are some coments out there somewhere claiming that flash v.11.1.102.55 was the highest that would run on 2k?

=6= usb
--usbd.sys
--usbhub.sys
--usbser.sys

where do these come from?

edit removed stuff that is discussed in a msfn thread by pointertovoid that I had missed ... link to thread below

from the site "USB hotfixes for 2000" http://blogs.msdn.co...ws-version.aspx there are 11 HBR files for 2k

based on the filelists in the respective KBs, all but 3 are superceded as follows

2 kbs still needed
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/838417

2 kbs included in UU-v10c as kb838989.cat? and as kb843503
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/838989
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/843503

if that's the case, the result is

might still need? HBR 838417
kb838417  Usbd.sys        5.0.2195.7008  07-Dec-2004  12:37   20752
kb838417  Usbser.sys      5.0.2195.7006  02-Dec-2004  10:32   22768

incl. in UU-v10c 
kb838989  Hccoin.dll      5.1.2600.1331  10-Jan-2004  13:25    5632
kb838989  Usbccgp.sys     5.1.2600.1331  10-Jan-2004  13:26   30464
kb838989  Usbehci.sys     5.1.2600.1359  02-Mar-2004  02:40   25216
kb838989  Usbhub.sys      5.1.2600.1331  10-Jan-2004  13:26   53120
kb838989  Usbohci.sys     5.1.2600.1331  10-Jan-2004  13:26   16000
kb838989  Usbport.sys     5.1.2600.1364  16-Mar-2004  17:10  138880
kb838989  Usbuhci.sys     5.1.2600.1331  10-Jan-2004  13:26   19328
kb843503  Hidclass.sys    5.0.2195.6882  12-Dec-2003  18:19   24752
kb843503  Uhcd.sys        5.0.2195.6882  12-Dec-2003  17:37   32944
kb843503  Usb.inf                        07-Jun-2004  23:46   32543
kb843503  Usbhub20.sys    5.0.2195.6891  17-Jan-2004  02:06   50032

back to the 3 you listed (usbd.sys, usbhub.sys, usbser.sys)
1. it looks like the 1st and 3rd (usbd.sys, usbser.sys) came from 838417
2. it look like theh 2nd (usbhub.sys) was already included in UU-v10c with 838989.cat (.cat=?)

===end edit===

=8=1 file that I couldn't find
(edit -- I am such a noob -- Windows2000-UU-KB926139-v2-x86-ENU.exe was right there on your site)

still looking for Windows2000-XP-2003-MSRDP52-x86-ENU.exe
MSRDP = ?Microsoft Remote Desktop Protocol, = Remote Desktop Connection, = Terminal Services Client
one thread said this file replaces HFSVCPACK_SW1\Windows2000-KB958470-x86-ENU.EXE (RDC 5.1 xp)

this thread http://www.msfn.org/...-2000-hotfixes/
gives a reg file that sets 3 killbits for 2k systems that do not want to install RDC ...

=9=boot.bin
no problem ... I see from mimo's site that I can rename my boot files as extracted by ImgBurn

=10=defrag cmds
Defrag.cmd
HFSLIP_POST_Defrag.cmd

this defrags inf files?

(edit == stupid questions follow) do these call defrag.exe, as per http://support.micro....com/kb/283080?
can I extract defrag.exe from a cab in my XPsp3 oem with out installing (I'm short on hdds right now) otherwise install XP and find?
this is an awesome idea ... also defragging the page file using system internals pagedefrag

(edit removed a rant abouit MS defrag api not allowing full defrag of folders in FAT32 file installs -- very very nasty!)

==edit add==

=11=
filever.exe
reg.exe

are versions from 2ksp4 ok?
--reg.exe is v 2.0.0.0, 49,424 b, 08/16/02
--filever.exe is v 5.0.2195.6601, 14,096 b, 06/19/13

filever.exe v. 5.2.3790.3959 (srv03_sp2_rtm.070216-1710), 02/17/07, 14,848b, is in support cab for Win2K3
reg.exe v. 5.2.3790.3959 (srv03_sp2_rtm.070216-1710), 02/17/07, 80,384b is in I386 folder in w2k3

=12=fred vork files?
cmdow.exe
modifyPE.exe

are they needed for regular install with ie6?

=13=rar
rar.exe

I have 2005 version v.3.51 ... it was a gift from rar to all members of msfn back when
a lot of people won't have this file, but 7z is supposed to unpack rar files.
I see that hfslip has a command line that calls rar.exe to -e a rar file.

= 0 = now the big one

[edit-- ignore this question I built a bartPE with Partition Magic 8.01, Easus 6.11 and Total Commander ... it only takes a couple of minutes to protect a drive now)

I have to use hardware to test builds
question, if I start with a blank new hdd,
partition it with my favorite preinstall
1 active partition (NTFS) and 1 extended part containing 1 logical partition (NTFS)
and then install 2k or xp on the active partition in that hdd

then without hiding that active partition
if I insert that hdd into another system
on a data disk channel only (not in bios boot sequence)
and so I boot from another hdd, say 2k or xp

I know (haha -- like I know anything when it comes to MS)
that the boot system will give that new hdd a good looking over
and I'm pretty sure it will detect the existence of an active partition containing a competing MS operating system?
but will the boot system alter the active partition in the data disk, to protect itself.

I remember doing that ONCE back when, with 95 or 98 to 98se or something
I can't remember which system was booted, but without any warning,
the boot system on primary IDE destroyed neutralized or whatever
the system on the secondary IDE channel
I was not very happy ... no warning

basically I have a system hdd on a channel which bios sets as bootable, with 1 active partiton with a system installed,
and I add a data hdd, with 1 active partiton and another os system installed, but on a data channel, not in boot sequence per bios
will the boot channel hdd change stuff on the data channel hdd, so that when the new hdd is returned to its system, it can't boot no more

what do you use your as pre-intall env to manage your new hdds? I tried using my trusty dos Partition Magic 8.01,
but for the first time ever, it disallowed me from converting an active partiton with to a hidden one --
and that was when I was booting from dos, from the floppy! (yikes! I still use floppies!!)
Before I insert that drive into another system for backup, I want to know the new os won't kill the old os

thus, are there any precautions I should take before I slip a new hdd with an active partition and a ms system installed on it, into an existing ms system?

confusing kind of question I guess ... arghh

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OUCH! Dialup must be clobbering you! The above two posts are "nearly" IDENTICAL!

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thanks submix8c ... I'm learning ... and appreciate everyone's patience and tolerance more than you can imagine

I appreciated that empathetic OUCH man ... I lost 2 keyboards on the same day
of course that fact that I used a firehose to wash out the hairballs and potatoes growing under the keys
(they were that dirty) ... on top of that it looks like I posted two long too long posts that can be boiled down to just 3 questions

@tomasz == my absurdly long post can be boiled down to three questions

1 instead of the 3 usbfiles (usbd.sys, usbhub.sys, usbser.sys)
(source unknown ... I assume are from HBR KB838417-Fix113582 ...)
why not just slip the 2 exe files that are included in the the download?
Windows2000-KB838417-x86-ENU.EXE, 377,336 b, 12/08/2004
Windows2000-KB838417-x86-ENU-Symbols.EXE, 65,528 b, 12/08/2004
(also, it looks like the usbser.sys might be 2kserver? -- in that case run the "latest" fileset from HBR 838417 -- see item 8 long post)

2 should HBR KB843540 be included? Openhci.sys 5.0.2195.6940 11-Jun-2004 21:04 25072
it contains two files Windows2000-KB843540-x86-ENU.EXE, 330,232 b, 06/11/2004
Windows2000-KB843540-x86-ENU-symbols.EXE, 48,632 b, 06/11/2004

3 for systems that do not have Remote Desktop installed
does Windows2000-XP-2003-MSRDP52-x86-ENU.exe run in the reg file to set 3 killbits as per this post http://www.msfn.org/...-2000-hotfixes/
in that case, can I just run the regfile?

(the rest of the too long post is me talking out loud while I try to figure stuff out ...
it may be helpful for you in setting up interface for noobs like me ...
it belongs in a dropbox, which I don't know how to do yet

sorry ... and THANKS!!
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@Molecule

Please just give me 2~3 days to sort everything out ;) At the moment some of the unofficial updates you're asking for are not available to download :( but I'll fix it ASAP!
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I just logged on to write you the same thing ... I wanted to dig into the USB thing but I see it's already been done

I just read the thread for the HBR mini rollup http://www.msfn.org/...ollup-outdated/

pointertovoid and bristols had already done the research etc. ... at first I thought maybe his computer was hanging when he pulled his USB modem because he had not included 843540

but when I looked again at the USB file list, I see that Openhci.sys 5.0.2195.6940 11-Jun-2004 25072 (KB843540) was already included in KB843503, which is already included in UU-v10c

thus I made another BAD when I said that KB843503 was missing ... the only file it carries is included in 843503 which is in UU-v10c

then, I noticed that my mobo bios has options as regards USB as follows
1. USB Controller [enable | disable] -- this allows enable or disable of USB controller
2. USB Device LEGACY SUPPORT [enable | disable] -- per manual "select enable if you need to use a USB-interfaced device in the operating system" (typical wierd bios speak)

maybe pointertovoid was getting hangs because his bios wasn't handling a legacy modem

(if his modem is USB modem, it is probably "legacy" = early USB version, for use in older mobos and OSs)

whatever legacy USB means (arghh) ... and on and on my ignorance goes forever

I have the feeling USB is something that has to be tested in a hardwire environment

No hurries ... that can only do one thing ... compound a already complex solution

===

there are various core files that HFSLIP needs
(like 7z, reg.exe, and other exe and reg files etc.)
they should just go ahead and be packed with the rest of HFSLIP
For example, if filever and reg.exe need special versions, that would save a lot of people a lot of hunting around.

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USB Device LEGACY SUPPORT [enable | disable]

Yes, very confusing BIOS-speak. It means USB Keyboard and/or Mouse is attached for e.g. DOS or Safe-Mode (no "driver" required) BUT the OS will install it as a USB Human Interface Device. AFAIK, it has nothing to do with "other" devices, particularly (as you mentioned) a USB Modem which requires a Driver to function at all. That's the best description I can give ATM.

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ouch ... a newer keyboard and mouse is USB so it they get LEGACY treatment in the bios ... a true legacy kb and mouse is PS/2, so they don't need legacy ... bios speak for opposite-day

I've put together all files except for 5

here's my HFSLIP folder
Spoiler


comparing the two lists, there are only a few exceptions

usbd.sys
usbhub.sys
usbser.sys

--edit-- can you provide a link?

HFSLIP_POST_getnewfiles_v3.cmd
edit--
--appears in 2 locations on your list ... I can't find where it's called in hfslip, or file checker, or 2k file checker ... is it run by hand?
--from this archive of TC76 http://users.telenet...extensions.html it generates a list of newly slipstreamed binaries (NEWBIN.TXT) useful for a nLite "keep list".

Windows2000-XP-2003-MSRDP52-x86-ENU.exe
--I'm just not having any luck finding this one
edit ... google lists endless dl$ sites ... all pointing to a mediafire page that doesn't exist anymore
--does this replace KB958470? --there a reg file in this thread http://www.msfn.org/...-2000-hotfixes/ re KB958470 (for people like me who are not using the "remote desktop thingie")

Windows2000-KB896414-x86-ENU (missing extension)
--this KB is listed twice, once with .EXE extension and once without
--probably just a mistake? or is the one without needed?

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I'm sorry that you had to wait so long for my answer :}

This is the first part of it (tomorrow I'll try to write the second one)


Windows2000-KB896414-x86-ENU (missing extension)
--this KB is listed twice, once with .EXE extension and once without
--probably just a mistake? or is the one without needed?

It's a mistake. I had the file unpacked and the one without an extensions was just a folder! You should ignore it.


Windows2000-XP-2003-MSRDP52-x86-ENU.exe
--I'm just not having any luck finding this one
edit ... google lists endless dl$ sites ... all pointing to a mediafire page that doesn't exist anymore
--does this replace KB958470? --there a reg file in this thread http://www.msfn.org/...-2000-hotfixes/ re KB958470 (for people like me who are not using the "remote desktop thingie")

It's not available at the moment but it should be ready to download tomorrow. Yes, MSRDP52 replaces KB958470. If you don't want to use MSRDP52 then you just can add the reg entry. I myself slipstream MSRDP52 just in case ;)


HFSLIP_POST_getnewfiles_v3.cmd
edit--
--appears in 2 locations on your list ... I can't find where it's called in hfslip, or file checker, or 2k file checker ... is it run by hand?
--from this archive of TC76 http://users.telenet...extensions.html it generates a list of newly slipstreamed binaries (NEWBIN.TXT) useful for a nLite "keep list".

You can get the file from Mimo's website: http://mimo.zxq.net/...list.htm#table6 and just put it in the HFSLIP's folder. It's not really crucial as the only role it plays is defragmenting sysoc.inf after HFSLIP's modifications.

Next part of the answer tomorrow (keep an eye on this post as I'm going to edit it).
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Glad you're back ... absolutely no hurries ... you've got your hands full ... the new 2k list looks great ... works fine on 98se with Firefox 2.0

EDIT -- did mimo pull file "HFSLIP_POST_getnewfiles_v3.cmd" from his website ... I don't see it there anymore. it would be easy to accidentally add a code char in a script that builds an inf, resulting the filename legal character box, and that the inf cleanup routine fixes that. I was thinking the filename box and the missing dll for flash might be related ... could also be related to inf cleanup.

You have your hands full ... I saw you are taking over Bristols list ... that hopefully is kind of settled down now so it shouldn't be too too much ... he did such a fantastic effort he did there getting it off the ground and in a groove!! I believe mostly things are going to evolve towards 7z compilations of hfslip-2-go, or hfslip with core files, and a few Rollups which can also be put in zips to setup file structure. My library for example allows patrons to download zip files, but not exes ... arghhh.

I went ahead and built a CD without the above and installed 2K experimental basis only

I used your directx_9c-W2KFP_redist.exe (14,172,944 b, cabs dated 06/23/11) instead of gaming dx
I added the reg file substitute for 958470 until MSRDP52 can be located

a few questions on running HFSLIP?

do I need to clear out old sourcess folder before running a new build? Iike chaning from gaming dx to standard dx

can you explain a little on the option to save or delete the *.CAT files from SVCPACK a little
I chose default delete
something about File Protection Services
for me file protection is by automatic image restore (there is no such thing as file protection by M$...)

any chance of dumping hfslip screen outputs to a text file? without hacking a ton of >> screendump.txt
maybe put hfslip in a wrapper and do screen dump from there ... just wondering out loud ... clueless

for example ... just before hfslip starts to build the iso, I get a line which says ... defragging ... /I386/sysoc.in_ file not found ... building iso
however, file the I386\sysoc.in_ is in hf\source ... it looks like sysoc.inf lists components ... mostly junk ... games etc.

I thought _getnewfiles_ generated a list of newly slipstreamed binaries ... and defrag compressed the inf and ini files? I finally found defrag.cmd on mimo site ... can you imagine my resourcefulness -- arghhh -- is there a smilie ... applies hammer to head!

Somewhere I saw a MS document ... a readme.txt on a CD iso or something ... arghhh memory fails ... which said that SP4 installs need to check USB 2.0 funcitonality, and they may need a reg fix ... now I can't find the darn thing ... I did find this re usbhub etc files ... from http://www.microsoft...SB2support.mspx

quote "The Windows 2000 Driver Stack for USB is different from Windows XP. To support USB 2.0 on Windows 2000, a parallel (new) driver stack is needed. This driver stack will consist of Usbport.sys, Usbhub20.sys and Usbehci.sys. A host controller-specific coinstaller (Hccoin.dll) will also be provided to ensure proper Windows Update installation in the Windows 2000 scenario."


a few questions about resulting system after installation

hardware is
core2duo with 2048 m ram
msi mobo with intel p43 ich10r chipset
msi video with geForce 7200 256m
bios has LAN turned off and SOUND turned off
edit -- hdd is old EIDE on IDE channel (so no questions about bios settings for SATA, ICHY, ACHY etc. ... yet)
no cards installed in PCI slots
(trying to isolate yellow-? I'm thinking turn on devices one by one, then make sure I've got the right driver, then try to slip drivers)

a funny hang occurs during the gui phase of install ... (as you know) install goes 1) blue dox screen to format hdd and copy files 2) reboot and start gui wizard 3) then add settings and key 4) then "Installing Components" section starts ... it's about 3 minutes total ... then Performing Final Tasks ... then remove CD and reboot to start

at about 75% way through the "Installing Compents" section, a message box pops up and installation stops ... keyboard intervention is required ... Enter for [OK} ... message is "A filename cannot contain any of [list illegal filename characters] characters."

EDIT 2 -- the hang occurs during Setup gui... Installing Components... Status: Completing configuration of Windows Media Player. The message box is red-(X) with title "Rename" quote "A filename cannot contain any of the following characters: \ / : * ? < > |" then [OK]-button to continue ... I'll try to post a pic of the status bar to show exactly where

Also, I don't remember seeing a message for installing .NetFx 1.1 ... copy of HFSLIP_LOG.ZIP attached (hopefully)
end edit

On Device Manager, there are 2 yellow-? (well, 3)
Other devices-?
1 -- PCI device-? I suspect is SM bus controller, ICH10R
2 -- Video controller-? which is to be expected

right away I'm running into question on 2000 and intel P43 and ICH10R ... do you have any experience ... should we use this thread? (ok by me ...) msi drivers are straight intel, and intel drivers are XP but they probably work fine in 2k (even though they expressly name 2000, ME, 98 as not covered systems)

.Net Framework 2.0 is listed as a component in control panel,
but .Net Framework 1.1 is not ...
is there an easy way to verify if it is installed?

when I double click on the Flash Player icon in Control Panel, a warning comes up ... "unable to locate DLL "UxTheme.dll" not in path"

chack out the PATH statement in the pic ... might need some cleanup ... pic is below

I added pics for AddRemove Components and Programs ... you would be better able to have a quick peek than me to see if everything looks like its all there

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This is my updated HFSLIP folder structure:

Spoiler



[quote]EDIT -- did mimo pull file "HFSLIP_POST_getnewfiles_v3.cmd" from his website ... I don't see it there anymore. it would be easy to accidentally add a code char in a script that builds an inf, resulting the filename legal character box, and that the inf cleanup routine fixes that. I was thinking the filename box and the missing dll for flash might be related ... could also be related to inf cleanup.[/quote]
You can get the script here: http://users.telenet...extensions.html


[quote]You have your hands full ... I saw you are taking over Bristols list ... that hopefully is kind of settled down now so it shouldn't be too too much ... he did such a fantastic effort he did there getting it off the ground and in a groove!! I believe mostly things are going to evolve towards 7z compilations of hfslip-2-go, or hfslip with core files, and a few Rollups which can also be put in zips to setup file structure. My library for example allows patrons to download zip files, but not exes ... arghhh.[/quote]
As you've already seen, the Updates list is up and running at:

http://www.windows2000.tk/updates/

Please check the Changelog because there has been a BIG update :) and the layout is a little bit different. In the future I'm considering adding Update Rollup 2 / UURollup to the list but not now yet.


[quote]I used your directx_9c-W2KFP_redist.exe (14,172,944 b, cabs dated 06/23/11) instead of gaming dx
I added the reg file substitute for 958470 until MSRDP52 can be located[/quote]
I'd suggest using the gaming version. Even if you don't play games there are many libraries which may be required by some programs, etc. I myself also don't really play any games but still always integrate the full package. MSRDP52 can now be downloaded from the Updates list.


[quote]do I need to clear out old sourcess folder before running a new build? Iike chaning from gaming dx to standard dx[/quote]
SOURCESS is cleaned each time you run HFSLIP (the folder is deleted) so you shouldn't worry about it. In case of the SOURCE folder, it should contain a clean version of Win2k although you can of course use a one with a SP slipstreamed, so if you've integrated USP5.1 already then you needn't do it again. The file (w2ksp51.exe) in HF will be ignored by the script if the source already has it integrated.


[quote]can you explain a little on the option to save or delete the *.CAT files from SVCPACK a little
I chose default delete
something about File Protection Services
for me file protection is by automatic image restore (there is no such thing as file protection by M$...)[/quote]
You don't need them. They are required when SFC is running and for WU because they contain digital signatures of the system files. The fact is that when using the unofficial updates SFC itself is pretty useless (because there are no signatures in the modified files), and WU must not be used at all so you can safely remove all .CAT files. Actually, SFC will be disabled in the next version of UURollup.


[quote]any chance of dumping hfslip screen outputs to a text file? without hacking a ton of >> screendump.txt
maybe put hfslip in a wrapper and do screen dump from there ... just wondering out loud ... clueless

for example ... just before hfslip starts to build the iso, I get a line which says ... defragging ... /I386/sysoc.in_ file not found ... building iso
however, file the I386\sysoc.in_ is in hf\source ... it looks like sysoc.inf lists components ... mostly junk ... games etc.

I thought _getnewfiles_ generated a list of newly slipstreamed binaries ... and defrag compressed the inf and ini files? I finally found defrag.cmd on mimo site ... can you imagine my resourcefulness -- arghhh -- is there a smilie ... applies hammer to head![/quote]
I don't know of any way to easily dump the output :} The script should generate a file called NEWBIN.txt where the newly added files will be listed.


[quote]hardware is
core2duo with 2048 m ram
msi mobo with intel p43 ich10r chipset
msi video with geForce 7200 256m
bios has LAN turned off and SOUND turned off
edit -- hdd is old EIDE on IDE channel (so no questions about bios settings for SATA, ICHY, ACHY etc. ... yet)
no cards installed in PCI slots
(trying to isolate yellow-? I'm thinking turn on devices one by one, then make sure I've got the right driver, then try to slip drivers)[/quote]
Let's wait with the drivers until I finish the script which automatically adds new drivers to driver.cab ;)


[quote]EDIT 2 -- the hang occurs during Setup gui... Installing Components... Status: Completing configuration of Windows Media Player. The message box is red-(X) with title "Rename" quote "A filename cannot contain any of the following characters: \ / : * ? < > |" then [OK]-button to continue ... I'll try to post a pic of the status bar to show exactly where[/quote]
You're the second person to report this problem. I can't reproduce it myself and still don't know what is the cause of it :huh: The problem may happen when integrating both UURollup and WMP9. Could you check if WMP9 works in the system after installation?


[quote]right away I'm running into question on 2000 and intel P43 and ICH10R ... do you have any experience ... should we use this thread? (ok by me ...) msi drivers are straight intel, and intel drivers are XP but they probably work fine in 2k (even though they expressly name 2000, ME, 98 as not covered systems)[/quote]
You'll probably have to use the BlackWingCat's drivers. If it's not a problem, it'd be good to wait just a few days so that we can try to integrate the drivers using my script :)


[quote].Net Framework 2.0 is listed as a component in control panel,
but .Net Framework 1.1 is not ...
is there an easy way to verify if it is installed?[/quote]
.NET 1.1 is also installed, just not visible by default. You can open %systemroot%\inf\sysoc.inf and remove all "HIDE"'s from there. Then check the Control Panel again and it should be listed there. You can't uninstall it though so don't even try.


[quote]when I double click on the Flash Player icon in Control Panel, a warning comes up ... "unable to locate DLL "UxTheme.dll" not in path"[/quote]
You can fix this by playing with file dependencies but is it really necessary? This applet is responsible for Flash settings in IE. Flash itself will still work OK without using it.

Edited by tomasz86, 14 September 2012 - 10:43 AM.

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I just read the thread for the HBR mini rollup http://www.msfn.org/...ollup-outdated/

pointertovoid and bristols had already done the research etc. ... at first I thought maybe his computer was hanging when he pulled his USB modem because he had not included 843540

Everything which was included in the HBR Mini Rollup is now included in Update Rollup 2. 843540 is obsolete. You can safely forget about them.


there are various core files that HFSLIP needs
(like 7z, reg.exe, and other exe and reg files etc.)
they should just go ahead and be packed with the rest of HFSLIP
For example, if filever and reg.exe need special versions, that would save a lot of people a lot of hunting around.

Not all of the files are absolutely necessary. Some of them have been just added by me. Of course it would be easier if HFSLIP came with the required tools so that a user don't need to search for them himself.


1 instead of the 3 usbfiles (usbd.sys, usbhub.sys, usbser.sys)
(source unknown ... I assume are from HBR KB838417-Fix113582 ...)
why not just slip the 2 exe files that are included in the the download?
Windows2000-KB838417-x86-ENU.EXE, 377,336 b, 12/08/2004
Windows2000-KB838417-x86-ENU-Symbols.EXE, 65,528 b, 12/08/2004
(also, it looks like the usbser.sys might be 2kserver? -- in that case run the "latest" fileset from HBR 838417 -- see item 8 long post)

These three files don't come from these HBRs but rather from Update Rollup 1 !!! The problem with them is that the ones from the HBRs are buggy and the buggy files were included in USP5.1 so if you slipstream USP5.1 then the buggy files are added to your source. That's why it's necessary to separately add the three older ones so that HFSLIP will automatically copy them over the buggy files.

You can now download them from the Archive. They're located in the USP52 folder.


what do you use your as pre-intall env to manage your new hdds? I tried using my trusty dos Partition Magic 8.01,
but for the first time ever, it disallowed me from converting an active partiton with to a hidden one --
and that was when I was booting from dos, from the floppy! (yikes! I still use floppies!!)
Before I insert that drive into another system for backup, I want to know the new os won't kill the old os

I recommend Parted Magic. You can boot it from a CD or a USB flash disk (check YUMI to very easily add new images to the USB flash disk).


=4=server rollup
--Windows2000-UpdateRollup2-SrvExt-v2-x86-ENU.exe
do you include server rollup in your 2K builds? ... may as well build the 2k slip cd with server, even if server doesn't get installed

You don't need the Server extension for a Pro system. You can safely omit it, and do the same with the two Media Services updates.


=3=
--Windows2000-KB2483185-x86-custom-ENU.EXE
this file is on your spoiler list, but not on Bristols’ list

It's listed now but you will probably need to download it from the Archive.


=1=gurglemeyers final version
--w2ksp51
the majorgeeks version is 04/19/2006 22:43 EST(GMT-4 or -5) v.2195.21_final 219,932,672 b, md5 6a4e816c9e26fc44bb4b576de06da82d

on his page for 2k with nlite, Kurt Aust posts a “refresh” version http://www.msfn.org/...creation-guide/
07/14/06 06:44 EDT (GMT-4) v.2195.24_refresh 291,898,368 b, md5 b86f9385cbf2fbd3053492fd00cfa598

majorgeeks site has ~99k downloads -- stick with the final (majorgeeks April 06) version, per your screenshot

I'll need to check this.
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--2 versions of USP51re version dl from majorgeeks and softpedia, versus version dl from Kurt Aust's 2K guide
KA's page has a Section 6 for the difference between the two versions. (His version has to be recombined from his 3-part 7zip.)
for the later version, Gurglemeyer added 3 patches
▼ Hotfix\010-Windows2000-KB913580-x86-ENU.exe 5,470,696
▼ Hotfix\015-Windows2000-KB914388-x86-ENU.exe 618,472
▼ Hotfix\055-Windows2000-KB917537-x86-ENU.exe 626,152
These are already included in your UU-10c rollup.
KA also gives links to both the Softpedia and Majorgeeks dl sites. Together these two sites have almost 175,000 copies of his update out there.

It's fantastic to learn that I can slipstream USP51 and then use the resulting fileset as an install source for subsequent builds using TZ rollups

--basic question--there are two ways to build a platform for your UU rollups and patches, per your dropdown list
my question is, as platform for UU rollups, would MS SP4 CD slipstreamed with
1) USP51 (for 891861-v2 update rollup 1v2) and
2) usbd.sys, usbhub.sys, usbser.sys (thanks for posting them ... usb must have been a lot of work to dig out)
(~220 meg)

would that be the same as the same original MS SP4 source CD slipstreamed with
1) M$ update rollup 1v2 KB 891861
2) reg fix for above per KB919521 (assuming gurglemeyer included the reg fix for multicore?)
3) ie6sp1 cabs
(~43 meg)

as end results the two compiles would of course be totally different, but for building an intermediate platform to then use for adding your rollups, the above two platforms would give the same result?

--Media Player 9re the hang during installation at Media player
Media player 9 starts up in my system. I tried to play an mp3 to partially verify, but since I haven't installed audio drivers, WMP9 stops and asks for audio driver install.

(I really hate the msi (intel) 7.1 sound driver ... 7 speakers is NOT for me ... I want two speakers ... in fact, I really prefer just one speaker ... the 701 driver is all bubble gum and no practical sense.

edit--BWC audio driversI finally figured out I need japanese font, but his site (which I guess is this one http://w2k.flxsrv.org/wlu/wlu.htm) is in japanese. I can cut and paste the main parts into google translate, but I can't cut and paste the options in the drop down boxes to select for my hardware and I can't use his machine scanner, because the machine I'm building is not on the internet

--sc.exe
does HFSLIP need sc.exe? if so, just curious, why?

Edited by Molecule, 15 September 2012 - 07:56 AM.

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--2 versions of USP51re version dl from majorgeeks and softpedia, versus version dl from Kurt Aust's 2K guide
KA's page has a Section 6 for the difference between the two versions. (His version has to be recombined from his 3-part 7zip.)
for the later version, Gurglemeyer added 3 patches
▼ Hotfix\010-Windows2000-KB913580-x86-ENU.exe 5,470,696
▼ Hotfix\015-Windows2000-KB914388-x86-ENU.exe 618,472
▼ Hotfix\055-Windows2000-KB917537-x86-ENU.exe 626,152
These are already included in your UU-10c rollup.
KA also gives links to both the Softpedia and Majorgeeks dl sites. Together these two sites have almost 175,000 copies of his update out there.

Thanks a lot for this information!!! :thumbup

You are 100% right. The version from Kurt_Aust is newer than the one available to download from MajorGeeks or Softpedia. Of course it's better to use that one instead of the older ones. I'll need to update the information on my website.


--basic question--there are two ways to build a platform for your UU rollups and patches, per your dropdown list
my question is, as platform for UU rollups, would MS SP4 CD slipstreamed with
1) USP51 (for 891861-v2 update rollup 1v2) and
2) usbd.sys, usbhub.sys, usbser.sys (thanks for posting them ... usb must have been a lot of work to dig out)
(~220 meg)

would that be the same as the same original MS SP4 source CD slipstreamed with
1) M$ update rollup 1v2 KB 891861
2) reg fix for above per KB919521 (assuming gurglemeyer included the reg fix for multicore?)
3) ie6sp1 cabs
(~43 meg)

as end results the two compiles would of course be totally different, but for building an intermediate platform to then use for adding your rollups, the above two platforms would give the same result?

The result would be very different. USP5.1 installs files which come from hundreds of HBRs (hotfixes by request). Those files are not included in any official M$ update (rollup). That's one of the reasons why it's better to use it instead of the official packages :)


--Media Player 9re the hang during installation at Media player
Media player 9 starts up in my system. I tried to play an mp3 to partially verify, but since I haven't installed audio drivers, WMP9 stops and asks for audio driver install.

If WMP9 works then I think it would be better to focus on other things at the moment as I can't reproduce the error on my system so it's very difficult to trace it :}


(I really hate the msi (intel) 7.1 sound driver ... 7 speakers is NOT for me ... I want two speakers ... in fact, I really prefer just one speaker ... the 701 driver is all bubble gum and no practical sense.

edit--BWC audio driversI finally figured out I need japanese font, but his site (which I guess is this one http://w2k.flxsrv.org/wlu/wlu.htm) is in japanese. I can cut and paste the main parts into google translate, but I can't cut and paste the options in the drop down boxes to select for my hardware and I can't use his machine scanner, because the machine I'm building is not on the internet

Could you list all of your hardware in details?. We can try to integrate the drivers using my script but it must be exactly clear which files are required to integrate.


--sc.exe
does HFSLIP need sc.exe? if so, just curious, why?

No but having the file in the system may be useful later. That's why it's located in HFEXPERT\WIN\system32 which means that it will be copied to %systemroot%\system32.
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... as usual, I have crawled through several long learning curves ... eventually the task continues

my progress so far

I await a HFSLIP version of 2k (TZ86+WB+BWC+??) ... when completed, it and ReactOS, will be a very powerful combination for preserving(?) MS software. TZ-BWC 2000 may become the last M$ OS I'll ever need

In the meantime, I'm having hardware issues with my 98 system and I need a stable platform

for the interim, to build a 2k machine to run hfslip on, I'm using nLite with One Piece's 2K rollup of M$ conventional patches

I just add the following

1. bphlpt's ryanvm.net script for DX9 addon builder (very cool ... 109 meg gaming Dx is knocked down to 12? meg) (http://www.ryanvm.ne...opic.php?t=8517)
edit -- then add patches MS 975560 and 975562, or, Jun 2010 Full Pack" with UUKBz 2631813 from Tomasz86's 2k list

2. GDIplus.dll from KB975337 ... several programs need it ... AC's font view plugin for ghisler's TC for example. It's also in .net11 and again in .net20. Instead of having the same 1.7 meg file in 3 or 4 locations, can we add it to sys and be done?

3. I think a postscript printer should be a std device (it's needed by adobe acrobat for distiller and distiller really does to a better job of producing stable pdfs) ... the adobe installer for 2k = 109 meg ("universal"),
but by itself the postscript5 driver for 2k-Xp machines is 4.6m

4. pass thru or virtual scsi driver ... SPTDinst-v181-x86.exe appears in Kurt Austs's batch file Run1_W2Ksp5.bat, but it's not shown in his download links. It's needed for daemon tools. ... SCSI Pass Through Direct setup v1.78.0.0 built by: WinDDK, by Duplex Secure Ltd. (http://www.duplexsecure.com/downloads/)

5. daemon tools (very handy device for everything ...) the installer for DT Lite v.3.47 (2004) doesn't ask user to add a google toolbar like the later ones. thus it can be unattended and still be free. Kurt Aust's 2K site, shows DTLite4356-0091.exe as last 2k, but it's installer asks user to install the google toolbar
-- google is now the cost of freedom? Google bubblegum is the only difference ... actually prefer the earlier version because of its logical simplicity ... same capacity ... more speed more friendly.

6. right-click font properties extension ... also small but can be valuable ... this is the only tool I know of that will tell me if I can legally embed a ttf font into a pdf document. adobe distiller will automatically exclude those fonts that don't have the licensing ... unless printed through distiller, pdfs can have font problems (apparently most font licenses are ... "you can enjoy these fonts on your machine, but you can't include them in a pdf document which you want to share with others...") the XP version of FPE 2.3 installs in 2K and seems to run no problem (no need to drop down to v2.1) ... http://www.microsoft...property21.mspx

(FYI ... for an excellent tuturial on printing pdfs, installing postscript, distiller printers, ghostscript, ghostview, see tutorial pages at http://www.athletica...riptDriver.html)

7. lame.dll and lame.exe could also become a std install in systems as well ... for a low tech audio junkie like me, with two 1-inch speakers any version will do

just a thought but ... you might add these on your 2K dropbox, before the XP stuff starts disappearing as well

8. KA's batches were a useful study for a noob like me and at the bottom ... very interesting as regards building and testings lastest isos with a fixed set of desktop software

that is the subject of my next y tangent ... but first, new info (for me) on slipstreaming driver sets

== DRIVERS ==

I'm sure I don't understand Bashrat Sneaky's files ... for my machine they add up to 500+ meg ... and I'm not sure if I've selected the right ones ... his tool seems to assume an internet connection to build a driver pack ... a year ago, each driver pack had a parallel info file which listed detailed list devices ... I can't find the info files now. I guess his installer reads the machine and figures out which drivers to extract from which ever driver pack ... but my machine is not connected and I'd still be on dialup anyway.

Mobo is MSI P43 neo3-f (core2duo e7200, 2 gig DDR2, intel P43 + ICH10R (sata 1-6), JMicron 363 (IDE, sata 7-8), PCIe LAN fast ethernet Realtek 8111c, Realtek 8-channel audio ALC888
In bios, I set all my sata hdds to ide. For the same hdd cache, and platten speed and density, I believe ide might even be faster on a well defragged hdd than achi. I don't need hot swap or raid, so achi sounds like bubblegum to me. The video is MSI nVidia GeForce 7300GS (huge heat sink, no fan ... I suspend a large temp controlled fan to cool heat sinks for video + P43 + ICH10. I'll add a pic

For drivers I went with the easy simple brute-force solution ... install'd drivers from oem CDs, then found this amazing program ... Driver Genius Pro 11
it's free for a one-time one-machine builders like me (=30 days free). It builds a zip or driver folder of non-MS drivers that is nLite ready ... each non-MS driver gets its own subdir in the main drivers folder ... just select to exclude std MS drivers, and point nLite drivers page to the drivers folder (or to the zip), select multiple drivers, select all, build iso ... and driver problems solved. comparing the Device Manager pages before and after (for the hand install, and for the nLite install) ... the two pages are identical

I compared Driver Genius to several different driver backups programs, including DriverBackup v2.183 and 0.79 by IcemanND (msfn project) ... neither version worked in my bootstrap 2k noob system ... 2.183 wouldn't install (requires XP?) ... v0.79 scans the machine and builds a list, but it wouldn't save the text drivers to a file ... Iceman's 0.79 list was a good one, but it was not as comprehensive as the list built by Driver Genius Pro. Also compared Driver Max v6.3 ... Driver Collector v12 ... Double Driver v410 ... for nLite ready, none could compare to free-for-one-time users, Driver Genius Pro

below is screenshot of the 120m zip ... I hope it loads without javascript running (with js, the continuous reloads of heavy ads freeze my machine ...)
edit -- need js to upload pics)

===

now for the fun stuff ... now that I have a base to work hfslip from, I can start on my next noob tangent ... edit and it was a whopper

the tech guys at terabyteunlimited are ... well they're right up there with jaclaz ... they have an image backup/restore program which can both backup and restore from batch (most can backup, but not restore) ... I want to do automatic restore, and I don't want to restore on startup ... I want to restore on shutdown

my first preference would be to add an option to the logoff/shutdown window, which runs a batch available to admin only which restores and then shuts down.

Im my noob dream ... script will test that match between source image and target hdd match (by md5's or signature files or something), then it will reboot from a USB to run terabyte batch restore, then shutdown

I need to research building the bootable USB and then getting the bios or MBR to select the USB over an installed system on hdd0 (without user interaction)

edit -- there are several sites out there where several people had problems booting USBs from msi P43-neo3f mobos with bios v.1.3. I just found out what "Legacy USB" means in the bios dialogs ... it means, "do you want to scan the USB ports looking for bootable hdds?" ... the bios and the manual gave no explanation, so I had turned Legacy USB off, thinking that it meant USB1.0 or 1.1 or something (95, or 98, or ?) or USB keyboard/mouse.

now that I have bootabe USB, I can delete the noob excitement that follows ...

[begin noob excitement about a file called Bootfile.exe ...]terabyte came up with this dongle called bootfile.exe... this could be really handy for testing your builds in hardware machine

"bootfile.exe" tells the MBR of a hdd to set a contiguous band on the hdd (i.e. a bootable defragged iso file on the hdd) as the active boot partition ... the system then thinks that the iso is the boot partition, so it boots from that iso file, which is just a contiguous file inside a 2k or xp partition

now hardware testing can be done without opening the case, without buring a CD or building a USB ... hfslip an iso ... defrag it, then run a batch dongle that tells the MBR to treat that iso file as an active hdd boot partition, and then you are testing new setups in actual hardware!!! with no VM req ... one snag might be the reboot between text mode and gui mode. MBR is restored so back to std 2k partition on exit of the program ... maybe there is a workaround

here's more info ... the filename is "bootfile.exe"

Running a Linux image on a 2kXp machine, without a bootdisk of any kind == http://www.terabyteu...l-bootfile.htm. Also more here ... http://www.terabyteu...icle.php?id=464 terabyte is an excellent source for KBs on hdds and image backup and restores (and no, I'm not on their payroll ... I just get excited by solutions and contributions that dongles like this represent ...)

for the moment, I want to get my restore image process patted down on my bootstrap 2k machine ...

does anyone have a preference for MS virtual machine 2004 vs MS VM 2007sp1. The latter required a simple OCRA hack, which I have done. It seems to install no sweat.

edit -- the newer version Regshot_1.8.3_r89_Win32_WDK.zip runs fine!

Sorry for the long post ... I was excited about the idea about possibly testing your daily builds on real hardware, using that little dongle by terabyte ...

over and out for now ... thanks for you help on so many good pointers!! I hope I can return the favor by sharing my noob experience.

After I do some success, I'll open a new thread on building a boot USB for automatic system restore and shutdown ... any suggestions?

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