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Works very well. I tried posting some screenshots but attachments don't work. Why?:unsure:




... but you need older Adobe Flash Player 10.1.102.64 :realmad:

Edited by Phenomic, 10 September 2012 - 09:09 AM.



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For screen shots you can use http://imgur.com/ :whistle:

And with either UURollup (ENU) or the BlackWingCat's kernel extension installed you can use any version of Flash Player.

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For screen shots you can use http://imgur.com/ :whistle:

And with either UURollup (ENU) or the BlackWingCat's kernel extension installed you can use any version of Flash Player.


Thank you, I just run Windows2000-UpdateRollup2-x86-ENU, it took forever.

But now I have another problem. I had installed an NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti and used BlackWingCat's driver nvw2k26658d. I can't remember how I installed it but 550 Ti was not on the list so I selected GTX 570 and it worked. Now I put in another card also GTX 550 Ti but I can't install the driver. Any ideas? :unsure:

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I didn't say anything about Update Rollup 2 :w00t:

Update Rollup 2 (UR2) is a rollup of (almost) all official system updates and hotfixes released for Windows 2000.

Unofficial Updates Rollup (UURollup) is a rollup of (almost) all UNofficial system updates and hotfixes released for Windows 2000.

Update Rollup 2 won't help you here (although of course there's nothing wrong with installing it). UURollup will help because after installing it you will be able to use the newest Flash Player.

What error do you get when trying to install the graphics driver?

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ok some screenshots...

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990fx, AM3+ socket, runs Bulldozer FX CPUs, also the upcoming Vishera maybe even Steamroller.




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GTX 550 Ti looks like GTX 570






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System summary, page 1




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System summary, page 2






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Cinebench, the same system in Windows 7 gets 4.00 but under Win2k it gets 3.71, win2k CPU driver not as efficient...






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But graphics kicks butt, "D13P1-40/PCI..." is the NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti






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I didn't say anything about Update Rollup 2 :w00t:

Update Rollup 2 (UR2) is a rollup of (almost) all official system updates and hotfixes released for Windows 2000.

Unofficial Updates Rollup (UURollup) is a rollup of (almost) all UNofficial system updates and hotfixes released for Windows 2000.

Update Rollup 2 won't help you here (although of course there's nothing wrong with installing it). UURollup will help because after installing it you will be able to use the newest Flash Player.

What error do you get when trying to install the graphics driver?



BlackWingCat's driver doesn't have an NVIDIA installer, so you have to install it through Device Manager. But when I point to the driver directory/INF Win2k doesn't find a hardware match, no driver. I can't remember how I did it the fist time... there was no GTX 550 Ti on the list, the closest was GTX 570, so I picked that and it works..

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You may try to install the newest official nVIDIA drivers:

http://pl.download.n...tional-whql.exe

Of course UURollup must be installed before doing so and the installation has to be done through Device Manager because the installer itself won't run in Win2k.


Cinebench, the same system in Windows 7 gets 4.00 but under Win2k it gets 3.71, win2k CPU driver not as efficient...

Something seems to be wrong. On my hardware configuration Win2k performs in Cinebench (very slightly but still) better than Windows 8. Even if there's a difference it shouldn't be that big.

You may also want to test the system using CrystalMark.

Edited by tomasz86, 10 September 2012 - 07:05 PM.

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You may try to install the newest official nVIDIA drivers:

http://pl.download.n...tional-whql.exe

Of course UURollup must be installed before doing so and the installation has to be done through Device Manager because the installer itself won't run in Win2k.


Cinebench, the same system in Windows 7 gets 4.00 but under Win2k it gets 3.71, win2k CPU driver not as efficient...

Something seems to be wrong. On my hardware configuration Win2k performs in Cinebench (very slightly but still) better than Windows 8. Even if there's a difference it shouldn't be that big.

You may also want to test the system using CrystalMark.



Thank you, do you have a link to UURollup?

You'll notice that Cinebench shows 4C/4T for Win7 but only 4C in Win2k. So, Cinebench at least thinks that Win2k isn't capable of multi-threading.





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Go to tomasz86's site - his sig is the link.

Cheers and Regards

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You may try to install the newest official nVIDIA drivers:

http://pl.download.n...tional-whql.exe

Of course UURollup must be installed before doing so and the installation has to be done through Device Manager because the installer itself won't run in Win2k.



Thanks, it didn't work. The NVIDIA drivers in you link aren't loading, and I had to remove UUrollup because I got NTFS incompatibility bug and 1 BSOD. I was getting this:

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So I actually loaded the RIVA driver which didn't work of course, but somehow it activated the driver database so I was able to select GTX 580 :yes:




Anyway, everything works now:

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Unrecognized PCI devices are ASMedia AHCI on PCI bus (no drivers fro win2k?). USB devices are USB3 (no driver). The 5 Unknown Devices are NVIDIA hight definition audio (BlackWingCat's driver nvw2k26658d doesn't include it?).





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Thanks, it didn't work. The NVIDIA drivers in you link aren't loading, and I had to remove UUrollup because I got NTFS incompatibility bug and 1 BSOD.

What kind of errors did you get with UURollup? :unsure:

Have you installed any other unofficial updates (perhaps any BlackWingCat's updates)?

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Thanks, it didn't work. The NVIDIA drivers in you link aren't loading, and I had to remove UUrollup because I got NTFS incompatibility bug and 1 BSOD.

What kind of errors did you get with UURollup? :unsure:

Have you installed any other unofficial updates (perhaps any BlackWingCat's updates)?


I was copying a dir tree to a Win7 partition and error msg said that it "does NOT support long filenames". BSOD I don't remember, but if it's somewhere in the event viewer I can get it for you.

I had no other updates, it was vanilla w2k + Gurglemeyer's service pack + BWC ahci and video driver.

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Hmm, strange. This is the first time I've heard about this kind of error. Maybe other official updates (or Update Rollup 2) should be made required for UURollup (ENU). There's a big gap between USP5.1 (2006) and UURollup (2010-).

Edited by tomasz86, 13 September 2012 - 08:48 AM.

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Hmm, strange. This is the first time I've heard about this kind of error. Maybe other official updates (or Update Rollup 2) should be made required for UURollup (ENU). There's a big gap between USP5.1 (2006) and UURollup (2010-).


What's wrong with running Windows 2000 as a virtual machine? I run it under Linux, it doesn't need any drivers and uses the host's resources including USB 3.0 and SATA 6 GB and everything works :)

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I added 2 lines to BlackWingCat's NV4_DISP.INF in the right section:


NVIDIA_DEV.1244.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti"

%NVIDIA_DEV.1244.01% = Section005, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1244 				

So now win2k does not reject the driver. You can also select GTS 450 (near identical GPU to my GTX 550 Ti.)


Win2k rocks ! :thumbup

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I'm googling but can't find ASMedia SATA driver for Win2k. Any ideas?

Also, how do you get Windows 2000 to remember your network share passwords?

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I'm googling but can't find ASMedia SATA driver for Win2k. Any ideas?

There's no driver for 2K and the one for XP refuses to work :( (at least on my system)

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I'm googling but can't find ASMedia SATA driver for Win2k. Any ideas?

There's no driver for 2K and the one for XP refuses to work :( (at least on my system)


I tried the XP driver too, it didn't work.

But on a brighter note, win2k fetches network shares faster and more reliably than Win7. The only problem is that it doesn't remember network share passwords and prompts you every time.

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The only problem is that it doesn't remember network share passwords and prompts you every time.

Maybe this?

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The only problem is that it doesn't remember network share passwords and prompts you every time.

Maybe this?


Yeah that works, I use it here for example, but it's only useful if you know for sure that the share is available. If a machine on your network is off line or suspended then what?

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Update: USB 3.0 works with ASMedia USB 3.0 Driver v1.16.1.0 for Windows 2000

This is the best mobo for Win2k that I’ve found so far. It’s the latest high performance AM3+ from Asus and it’s a straightforward install requiring only the AHCI driver slipstreamed. It runs Bulldozer FX CPUs, the new 8-core Vishera, and Steamroller yet to be released. The only problem I see is that at present FX and later CPUs would run unthrottled, because neither Win2K’s “cool and quiet” nor K10stat works with FX architecture. We’ll have to wait till someone writes a utility.

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Any hints on how you got Cinebench 11.5 to run in 2000? I tried it with SP5.1, update rollup2, and UUrollup installed but it does not start (gives message "... has generated errors and will be closed by Windows").

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Any hints on how you got Cinebench 11.5 to run in 2000? I tried it with SP5.1, update rollup2, and UUrollup installed but it does not start (gives message "... has generated errors and will be closed by Windows").

Strange... It just works here. No errors at all.

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Any hints on how you got Cinebench 11.5 to run in 2000? I tried it with SP5.1, update rollup2, and UUrollup installed but it does not start (gives message "... has generated errors and will be closed by Windows").

Strange... It just works here. No errors at all.

Oh, maybe it needs SSE2

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Oh, maybe it needs SSE2

What kind of machine are you trying to run the program on? :o

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