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Win2k on AMD 990FX The very latest ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 Rate Topic: -----

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:01 AM

Works very well. I tried posting some screenshots but attachments don't work. Why?:unsure:




... but you need older Adobe Flash Player 10.1.102.64 :realmad:

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 11:57 AM

For screen shots you can use http://imgur.com/ :whistle:

And with either UURollup (ENU) or the BlackWingCat's kernel extension installed you can use any version of Flash Player.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 01:11 PM

View Posttomasz86, on 10 September 2012 - 11:57 AM, said:

For screen shots you can use http://imgur.com/ :whistle:

And with either UURollup (ENU) or the BlackWingCat's kernel extension installed you can use any version of Flash Player.


Thank you, I just run Windows2000-UpdateRollup2-x86-ENU, it took forever.

But now I have another problem. I had installed an NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti and used BlackWingCat's driver nvw2k26658d. I can't remember how I installed it but 550 Ti was not on the list so I selected GTX 570 and it worked. Now I put in another card also GTX 550 Ti but I can't install the driver. Any ideas? :unsure:

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 02:24 PM

I didn't say anything about Update Rollup 2 :w00t:

Update Rollup 2 (UR2) is a rollup of (almost) all official system updates and hotfixes released for Windows 2000.

Unofficial Updates Rollup (UURollup) is a rollup of (almost) all UNofficial system updates and hotfixes released for Windows 2000.

Update Rollup 2 won't help you here (although of course there's nothing wrong with installing it). UURollup will help because after installing it you will be able to use the newest Flash Player.

What error do you get when trying to install the graphics driver?

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 05:01 PM

ok some screenshots...

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990fx, AM3+ socket, runs Bulldozer FX CPUs, also the upcoming Vishera maybe even Steamroller.




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GTX 550 Ti looks like GTX 570






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System summary, page 1




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System summary, page 2






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Cinebench, the same system in Windows 7 gets 4.00 but under Win2k it gets 3.71, win2k CPU driver not as efficient...






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But graphics kicks butt, "D13P1-40/PCI..." is the NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti






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Posted 10 September 2012 - 05:51 PM

View Posttomasz86, on 10 September 2012 - 02:24 PM, said:

I didn't say anything about Update Rollup 2 :w00t:

Update Rollup 2 (UR2) is a rollup of (almost) all official system updates and hotfixes released for Windows 2000.

Unofficial Updates Rollup (UURollup) is a rollup of (almost) all UNofficial system updates and hotfixes released for Windows 2000.

Update Rollup 2 won't help you here (although of course there's nothing wrong with installing it). UURollup will help because after installing it you will be able to use the newest Flash Player.

What error do you get when trying to install the graphics driver?



BlackWingCat's driver doesn't have an NVIDIA installer, so you have to install it through Device Manager. But when I point to the driver directory/INF Win2k doesn't find a hardware match, no driver. I can't remember how I did it the fist time... there was no GTX 550 Ti on the list, the closest was GTX 570, so I picked that and it works..

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 07:04 PM

You may try to install the newest official nVIDIA drivers:

http://pl.download.n...tional-whql.exe

Of course UURollup must be installed before doing so and the installation has to be done through Device Manager because the installer itself won't run in Win2k.


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Cinebench, the same system in Windows 7 gets 4.00 but under Win2k it gets 3.71, win2k CPU driver not as efficient...

Something seems to be wrong. On my hardware configuration Win2k performs in Cinebench (very slightly but still) better than Windows 8. Even if there's a difference it shouldn't be that big.

You may also want to test the system using CrystalMark.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 06:20 AM

View Posttomasz86, on 10 September 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

You may try to install the newest official nVIDIA drivers:

http://pl.download.n...tional-whql.exe

Of course UURollup must be installed before doing so and the installation has to be done through Device Manager because the installer itself won't run in Win2k.


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Cinebench, the same system in Windows 7 gets 4.00 but under Win2k it gets 3.71, win2k CPU driver not as efficient...

Something seems to be wrong. On my hardware configuration Win2k performs in Cinebench (very slightly but still) better than Windows 8. Even if there's a difference it shouldn't be that big.

You may also want to test the system using CrystalMark.



Thank you, do you have a link to UURollup?

You'll notice that Cinebench shows 4C/4T for Win7 but only 4C in Win2k. So, Cinebench at least thinks that Win2k isn't capable of multi-threading.





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Posted 11 September 2012 - 10:00 AM

Go to tomasz86's site - his sig is the link.

Cheers and Regards

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 12:32 PM

View Posttomasz86, on 10 September 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

You may try to install the newest official nVIDIA drivers:

http://pl.download.n...tional-whql.exe

Of course UURollup must be installed before doing so and the installation has to be done through Device Manager because the installer itself won't run in Win2k.




Thanks, it didn't work. The NVIDIA drivers in you link aren't loading, and I had to remove UUrollup because I got NTFS incompatibility bug and 1 BSOD. I was getting this:

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So I actually loaded the RIVA driver which didn't work of course, but somehow it activated the driver database so I was able to select GTX 580 :yes:




Anyway, everything works now:

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Unrecognized PCI devices are ASMedia AHCI on PCI bus (no drivers fro win2k?). USB devices are USB3 (no driver). The 5 Unknown Devices are NVIDIA hight definition audio (BlackWingCat's driver nvw2k26658d doesn't include it?).





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Posted 11 September 2012 - 04:20 PM

View PostPhenomic, on 11 September 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

Thanks, it didn't work. The NVIDIA drivers in you link aren't loading, and I had to remove UUrollup because I got NTFS incompatibility bug and 1 BSOD.

What kind of errors did you get with UURollup? :unsure:

Have you installed any other unofficial updates (perhaps any BlackWingCat's updates)?

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 07:10 AM

View Posttomasz86, on 11 September 2012 - 04:20 PM, said:

View PostPhenomic, on 11 September 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

Thanks, it didn't work. The NVIDIA drivers in you link aren't loading, and I had to remove UUrollup because I got NTFS incompatibility bug and 1 BSOD.

What kind of errors did you get with UURollup? :unsure:

Have you installed any other unofficial updates (perhaps any BlackWingCat's updates)?


I was copying a dir tree to a Win7 partition and error msg said that it "does NOT support long filenames". BSOD I don't remember, but if it's somewhere in the event viewer I can get it for you.

I had no other updates, it was vanilla w2k + Gurglemeyer's service pack + BWC ahci and video driver.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 08:47 AM

Hmm, strange. This is the first time I've heard about this kind of error. Maybe other official updates (or Update Rollup 2) should be made required for UURollup (ENU). There's a big gap between USP5.1 (2006) and UURollup (2010-).

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 05:36 PM

View Posttomasz86, on 13 September 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

Hmm, strange. This is the first time I've heard about this kind of error. Maybe other official updates (or Update Rollup 2) should be made required for UURollup (ENU). There's a big gap between USP5.1 (2006) and UURollup (2010-).


What's wrong with running Windows 2000 as a virtual machine? I run it under Linux, it doesn't need any drivers and uses the host's resources including USB 3.0 and SATA 6 GB and everything works :)

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:44 AM

I added 2 lines to BlackWingCat's NV4_DISP.INF in the right section:


NVIDIA_DEV.1244.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti"

%NVIDIA_DEV.1244.01% = Section005, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1244 				



So now win2k does not reject the driver. You can also select GTS 450 (near identical GPU to my GTX 550 Ti.)


Win2k rocks ! :thumbup

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 04:15 PM

I'm googling but can't find ASMedia SATA driver for Win2k. Any ideas?

Also, how do you get Windows 2000 to remember your network share passwords?

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 10:15 PM

View PostPhenomic, on 19 October 2012 - 04:15 PM, said:

I'm googling but can't find ASMedia SATA driver for Win2k. Any ideas?

There's no driver for 2K and the one for XP refuses to work :( (at least on my system)

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 10:01 AM

View Posttomasz86, on 19 October 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

View PostPhenomic, on 19 October 2012 - 04:15 PM, said:

I'm googling but can't find ASMedia SATA driver for Win2k. Any ideas?

There's no driver for 2K and the one for XP refuses to work :( (at least on my system)


I tried the XP driver too, it didn't work.

But on a brighter note, win2k fetches network shares faster and more reliably than Win7. The only problem is that it doesn't remember network share passwords and prompts you every time.

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 12:30 AM

View PostPhenomic, on 20 October 2012 - 10:01 AM, said:

The only problem is that it doesn't remember network share passwords and prompts you every time.

Maybe this?

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 10:13 AM

View Posttomasz86, on 21 October 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:

View PostPhenomic, on 20 October 2012 - 10:01 AM, said:

The only problem is that it doesn't remember network share passwords and prompts you every time.

Maybe this?


Yeah that works, I use it here for example, but it's only useful if you know for sure that the share is available. If a machine on your network is off line or suspended then what?

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