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Well, The other day I picked up a Asus ABAE-LE (From a scrap yard, Actually.. Along with a 23 inch acer flat screen that had a broken power button but otherwise works fine) Long story short, When i try to boot 98SE on it, it gets to the clouds screen and the bar at the bottom endlessly scrolls. I left it overnight to see if it would overcome it, and it wont. Does the same thing with ME, But Boots XP, 7 (Both on a SATA HDD), and even 3.1, which I find odd. It has a AMD Athlon64 in it, which I thought might be the culprit, but I dropped a semphron (Which I also got out of a motherboard I got at that scrap yard...) and it does the same thing.. Is there any way for me to get around this, is this board even capable of booting 98, or am I going to have to reinstall? If that's the case i'm going to wait until my new-to-me 185gb hdd gets here from Ebay, and install it on that because i don't want to lose all of my drivers for my other motherboard. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Motherboard specs:
Asus AB-LE, which I believe came out of a Compaq Presario SR1650NX Edit: On the board it looks like AB-LE, but according to the internet is A8-LE, so I assume thats correct.
512mb of ram at the moment, but I have it where it can handle 1gb
35gb Pata (IDE) HDD
Amd Athlon64 or Semphron

Does anyone know where i could find graphics drivers for it? It appears to have a ATI radeon x200.

Edited by Win98, 11 September 2012 - 09:06 PM.



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Try this package. I can't say for sure that it supports that particular chip, but I believe it does.

I once tried to install Windows 98SE on a Compaq computer that had this particular motherboard for a friend of mine. It was a nightmare. At the time, I was never able to get everything working correctly, but it's been so long ago I don't remember what the problem was. :wacko:

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I'll look into that. Thanks.

Hopefully, this motherboard is old enough that it wont have too many issues installing..

The thing is, Now... The motherboard is retarded, and whenever you disconnect power to it, the next time you plug it in you have to do something (I honestly have no idea what, but ive done it twice now) to get it to come on, before the power button or anything will respond... I'm in the process of trying to get it to come back on.

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Have you changed the CMOS battery and reset (via jumper or setup) the CMOS data yet?
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Im pretty sure the battery is dead. How would i go about reseting all of that?

Edited by Win98, 12 September 2012 - 06:45 PM.


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Note the CAUTION warning below!

Complete directions and board specifications are here: Motherboard Specifications, A8AE-LE (AmberineM)

Battery is CR2032 3v, available in the watch department of most drugstores. CR2024 or CR2016 won't last as long, but should work if you use a washer or penny to increase the thickness (as I once did). As a temporary measure, the old battery can be carefully trickle-charged up to ~2v using two weak AAA batteries (as I ... :whistle: ).

  • Turn OFF the PC and unplug the power cord. This motherboard has a jumper to clear the BIOS settings in CMOS RAM.
  • To clear BIOS settings, temporarily set the jumper labeled "CLEAR CMOS" to pins 1-2.
  • Wait at least 6 seconds and then return the cap to pins 2-3. When you start the PC you will need to enter BIOS setup to reset any custom BIOS settings.
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Thanks. When I get home this afternoon I'll try it.

A 9v battery works better than AAA's... Haha.

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NO!!!! Don't use a 9v! The specs are for 3v!!!!! If I'm too late, hope you didn't booger your board!

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No no no..... I mean to charge the dead 3v with.

Havent got to the motherboard to try this yet, as I have been messing with the computer I got off of the curb today.

Specs:
Socket 370 Celeron (Which is faster, Celeron, or P3? I have quite a few on hand)
512mb pc133 ram
Didnt have a hard drive, but now has the Windows 98 HDD out of my first computer. Its a whole 6gb.

Thing works great. Im trying to install my PCI wireless card on it, and im picking through dll and system files, because they apparently arent on the disk.. Right now im trying to find ndishlp.sys, and I have failed.. If anyone has this file and wants to give me it, i would love it.

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Edited by Win98, 13 September 2012 - 05:06 PM.


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any clues from Win9x Bootlog.txt ?

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I looked for that the other day, but I can even find the file on the computer. (Yes i selected logged in the boot menu)

Im going to be away from the computer until sunday, so I will have to try these things sunday night.

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ndishlp.sys - in NET9.CAB

PRECOPY2.CAB has three LAYOUTx.INF files. Most/all files are listed in a/l one of them. The number at the beginning of the name is the CAB number, found at the top of the list. This file is listed in LAYOUT1.INF.

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Ill look when i get back sunday. Thanks!

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Socket 370 Celeron (Which is faster, Celeron, or P3? I have quite a few on hand)
512mb pc133 ram

Celeron is the budget version of the P2/P3/P4.
Socket 370 could be PPGA/FC-PGA/FC-PGA2
pc133 leads me to guess your Celeron is a P2 in a PPGA socket. If the speed is 533Mhz or less, that's it.

PPGA runs at 2v. The slowest Socket 370 P3's (Coppermines) are FC-PGA (<=1.75v), so not compatible.

Processors:
Intel Celeron Mendocino (PPGA, 300–533 MHz, 2.0 V)
Intel Celeron Coppermine (FC-PGA, 533–1100 MHz, 1.5–1.75 V)
Intel Celeron Tualatin (FC-PGA2, 900–1400 MHz, 1.475–1.5 V)
Intel Pentium III Coppermine (FC-PGA, 500–1133 MHz, 1.6–1.75 V)
Intel Pentium III Tualatin (FC-PGA2, 1000–1400 MHz, 1.45–1.5 V)
VIA Cyrix III/C3 (500–1200 MHz, 1.35–2.0 V)


Edit: Modifying a PPGA socket 370 motherboard for FCPGA processors

Edited by jumper, 14 September 2012 - 05:58 PM.

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Ummm... no... check CPU-World instead. ;) PC133 could be the "later" version. I've had several of those (both "versions"). They may look the same and the CPU's will even fit but the wiring is different.

"Better" Socket370 Celerons -
http://www.cpu-world...(BX80526F900128).html

Wiki is not such a hot place to get specs...

Edited by submix8c, 14 September 2012 - 05:56 PM.

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submix8c,

I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with, but your link is broken. Try this one instead:
http://www.cpu-world...Mendocino).htmlPC133 is SDRAM and was typical on PPGA Mendocinos. FC-PGA Coppermines used SDRAM or RDRAM.

CPU-World doesn't talk about memory-type compatibility, but does verify Wikipedia for socket 370. Thanks for the resource. :)

Edited by jumper, 15 September 2012 - 02:36 AM.

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Ummm... the link goofed up (.html went AWOL) Try copy/paste this -
http://www.cpu-world...(BX80526F900128).html
(blanks are embedded - KRAP! It truncated it again!)
"Celeron 1998 32 Low-cost version of Pentium II, Pentium III and Pentium 4 processors."
Try this one (directly to all the Celeron links) -
http://www.cpu-world...eron/index.html

Now... you keep talking about Mendecino (WIKIWIKI) - How about later Coppermine/Tualatin? They can ALSO be on MoBo's with PC133 - It's SDRAM!!! You have already stated that Socket370 comes in various "flavors" - THIS site will help you determining WHAT will/may work... I use it all the time. ;) (NOTES: Willamette and up are NOT Socket370 and use DDR and up / Covington is older SECC/Slot). Seriously, Wiki STINKS!

And... google "Everest Home Edition 2.20" (w/o quotes), install and run it to see EXACTLY what your MoBo is. This will remove some "guesswork".

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