[andros]

I have used nLITE to integrate SATA in WXP's CD.

But I now discover that nLITE is installed and conceal in the PC.

What does mean this?

Attached File(s)

•  nLITE.JPG (23.57K)
  Number of downloads: 28
•  sysoc.inf.TXT (1.71K)
  Number of downloads: 28

[submix8c]

It's the result of integration. nLite uses NLITE.INF to remove/modify ("tweak") components. nLite itself is not actually "installed". Why it's showing I'm not sure - the "HIDE" in SYSOC.INF should have prevented that. Did you see the "description"? You apparently did some of that.

edit - You DID use the latest from http://www.nliteos.com right?

This post has been edited by submix8c: 17 September 2012 - 10:00 AM

[Kelsenellenelvian]

I know what your issues are (just from reading your sysoc)

Your source is NOT clean and original...

Your source has a beta SP applied to it.

Your source is MOST likely warez.

Also whay in the first place are you trying to hide that nLite was used? It is not to be used for business uses anywaysd so what does it matter at home?

[andros]

Excuse me, windows is original.

Some useful suggestion?

[jaclaz]

andros, on 24 September 2012 - 03:30 AM, said:

Some useful suggestion?

Why don't you simply remove it?
http://www.mvps.org/...emove_progs.htm

jaclaz

[submix8c]

Kelsenellenelvian, on 17 September 2012 - 12:22 PM, said:

I know what your issues are (just from reading your sysoc)
Your source has a beta SP applied to it.

I will correct that - Your SOURCE is BETA (Specifically RC2)! All SYSOC.INF of XP-32-bit from RTM and up start at "5.1.2600.0" (RTM). Yours SPECIFICALLY STATES "5.1.2535.0". All Released Service Packs since RTM (AFAIK) also conform to the actual CD's. I would call that "suspect"... Shall I illegally download it to prove it (yes, I found it)? I might ALSO suggest that Beta keys will not (AFAIK) work with RTM and up, so have at it, my friend.

Although... I guess you COULD "hack" it and make it work, also HIGHLY illegal.

Besides the fact that I answered your question AND wondered about the "HIDE" part... Searching the Internet on

nLite "SYSOC.INF"

even suggests removing it (as jaclaz too suggested), although "tweaks" will "break" it since it's already been applied.

edit - OHHHH!!!! Found this. Interesting...

Quote

Prior to 2542 testers were able to use their product key for multiple installations, which of course makes sense for beta testers but isn't what Microsoft has planned for the finished product.

Still, looks like "hacks" would be required...

This post has been edited by submix8c: 24 September 2012 - 12:01 PM

[Kelsenellenelvian]

Lol thank you sub

[Kelsenellenelvian]

Ok here is the beef in a full rundown BEFORE you try to convince us your source is original and genuine:

(sysoc from a msdn gold xp source)

[Version]
Signature = "$Windows NT$"
DriverVer=07/01/2001,5.1.2600.0

[Components]
NtComponents=ntoc.dll,NtOcSetupProc,,4
WBEM=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,wbemoc.inf,hide,7
Display=desk.cpl,DisplayOcSetupProc,,7
Fax=fxsocm.dll,FaxOcmSetupProc,fxsocm.inf,,7
NetOC=netoc.dll,NetOcSetupProc,netoc.inf,,7
iis=iis.dll,OcEntry,iis.inf,,7
com=comsetup.dll,OcEntry,comnt5.inf,hide,7
dtc=msdtcstp.dll,OcEntry,dtcnt5.inf,hide,7
IndexSrv_System = setupqry.dll,IndexSrv,setupqry.inf,,7
TerminalServer=TsOc.dll, HydraOc, TsOc.inf,hide,2
msmq=msmqocm.dll,MsmqOcm,msmqocm.inf,,6
ims=imsinsnt.dll,OcEntry,ims.inf,,7
fp_extensions=fp40ext.dll,FrontPage4Extensions,fp40ext.inf,,7
AutoUpdate=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,au.inf,hide,7
msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,hide,7
RootAutoUpdate=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,rootau.inf,,7
IEAccess=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,ieaccess.inf,,7
Games=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,games.inf,,7
AccessUtil=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,accessor.inf,,7
CommApps=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,communic.inf,HIDE,7
MultiM=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,multimed.inf,HIDE,7
AccessOpt=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,optional.inf,HIDE,7
Pinball=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,pinball.inf,HIDE,7
MSWordPad=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,wordpad.inf,HIDE,7
ZoneGames=zoneoc.dll,ZoneSetupProc,igames.inf,,7

[Global]
WindowTitle=%WindowTitle%
WindowTitle.StandAlone="*"

[Components]
msnexplr=ocmsn.dll,OcEntry,msnmsn.inf,,7

[Strings]
WindowTitle="Windows Professional Setup"
WindowTitle_Standalone="Windows Components Wizard"

PLUS there are CLOSE TO A dozen missing and\or added lines between the 2.

nLite has not added itself in that style (Without the hide) in many years...

[andros]

jaclaz, on 24 September 2012 - 03:59 AM, said:

andros, on 24 September 2012 - 03:30 AM, said:

Some useful suggestion?

Why don't you simply remove it?
http://www.mvps.org/...emove_progs.htm

jaclaz

This does not work for nlite:

Open The Add or Remove Programs in Control Panel.

Click on Add/Remove Windows Components. You will now see options for Accessories and Utilities (the programs in the Accessories menu on the Start panel), MSN Explorer and several other components.

Remove the check next to the component to remove it or check it to install it from your XP CD.

[Kelsenellenelvian]

DUDE seriously you are using a illegal disk!

That is against the rules here.

STOP!! (A friendly-ish warning before a mod bans you).

[andros]

Here I show nLITE.inf of another original WXP sp3, that also I used nLITE


Excuse to me, that some your explanation I do not understand.
I will ask for help.


I believe it is a good idea that the author or someone explains what does this nLITE.inf.

And why it is not possible to remove nlite from components of W .

And, that half a world, we are not "zombies"

Attached File(s)

•  nlite.inf.TXT (2.91K)
  Number of downloads: 7

[andros]

Kelsenellenelvian, on 25 September 2012 - 03:17 AM, said:

DUDE seriously you are using a illegal disk!

That is against the rules here.

STOP!! (A friendly-ish warning before a mod bans you).

I can go to your every in order that you see it.

And in addition to say to you that MS has considered it to be original.

[submix8c]

andros, on 25 September 2012 - 03:32 AM, said:

Here I show nLITE.inf of another original WXP sp3, that also I used nLITE

Nope, dude... it's the "LAST SESSION.INI" that tells what ELSE was modified.
Right at the top of this screen:

Quote

If you are having issues with Windows after removing components and have come to ask for help, please attach (not paste) your Last Session.ini file to your post to facilitate quicker assistance.

andros, on 25 September 2012 - 03:32 AM, said:

Excuse to me, that some your explanation I do not understand.
I will ask for help.

I believe it is a good idea that the author or someone explains what does this nLITE.inf.

It's sole purpose is to "kick off" the remainder of the "modifications" (see above RED). If you do NOT have the above file - IT IS SUSPECT! What you have provided (NLITE.INF) does NOT EVEN TELL that it's from "original WXP sp3" - it could be from ANY nLited source! Provide it or be quiet!

andros, on 25 September 2012 - 03:32 AM, said:

And why it is not possible to remove nlite from components of W .

And, that half a world, we are not "zombies"

Repeat - nLite is NOT installed! An nLited XP is installed! Review the nLite FAQ. Nuhi (the creator of nLite) is no longer available and there will be NO explanation of the "details" of this PROPRIETARY software except what may be "gleaned" from this and whatever else has been "discovered". The Source for the Program is "closed" and we DO NOT have it OR do we have Nuhi's notes and private documentation. Use it or not - Period.

Quote

And in addition to say to you that MS has considered it to be original.

So... you were a Beta Tester?

[andros]

I have repeated to construct a new CD.

Attached File(s)

•  ULTIMA SESIÓN.INI (16.67K)
  Number of downloads: 10
•  ULTIMA SESIÓN_U.INI (1.14K)
  Number of downloads: 7

[submix8c]

Spanish SP3 source (NOT the one you originally posted)? You've removed quite a few components, which is your option. Otherwise.... so what?

The first file you posted (SYSOC.INF) still indicates a Beta (Pre-RTM) source and the entry

nLite = ocgen.dll,OcEntry,nLite.inf,HIDE,7

specifically says that it's "HIDE" so it should not have shown in ADD/REMOVE. The second file you posted (NLITE.INF) will still tell nothing. As has been stated, NLITE.INF only "polishes off" the Install (via NHELPER program) and sets some Registry Entries. NLITE IS NOT INSTALLED!!!

I'm really not sure WHAT you expect as "answers". If the "LAST SESSION" files are from an nLite Session against a FULL UNALTERED SPANISH XP-SP3 Source (all dates of Files/Folders EXACTLY THE SAME, unless an OEM-altered Installation CD) then (again) so what... BUT if they are from the Source, then it's a "bogus" Source (already nLite'd) and components have been removed.

To change to a Spanish Source you could to start with (e.g.) an English Source and apply a Language Pack. OR you could obtain a Spanish source (as well as other languages) as you appear to have (now).

That is all there is to it. You have your answers.

[andros]

1) I have 1 DELL DIM 9100, with WXP MC sp2 (English) (original?), installed with a copy DVD facilitated by DELL.

2) I have 1 DELL DIM E520, with WXP sp3 (Spanish) (original), installed with a CD bought distributor MS.


1) I used nLITE to remove languages, keyboards, games, and some thing plus.

a) NLITE, it is possible to see "HIDE" in the PC.

When I remove "HIDE", then I see nLITE in " adding / removing components of W ".

And when I unmark "nLITE", and I execute, nLITE remains.



2) I used nLITE to remove languages, keyboards, games, and some thing plus. I have added SATA to the CD.

And in this PC the same things happens.


3) That I want?

So, to know what it does "nLITE" as component of W, that in addition I cannot remove.

[submix8c]

@!#$%^&*()_!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT DOES NOT REMOVE!!!! There is NO FACILITY TO "DELETE" IT! NOTHING IS "INSTALLED"!!!! NOTHING TO "REMOVE" except that STUPID ENTRY!!!!

Look inside OTHER INF FILES! THEY SELF-DELETE!!!

Do you REALLY want it to no longer show? REMOVE THAT LINE FROM SYSOC.INF!!!!!! Removing "HIDE" will MAKE IT SHOW!!!

LOOK INSIDE YOUR NLITE.INF - IT DOES WHAT I SAID IT DOES!!!! Learn a little about INF files and how they work. THIS IS NOT THE TOPIC FOR THAT!!!!

JEEZ, dude, how many times to I have to tell you????

Use nLite or NOT!!! I don't care anymore!

[Ponch]

Chill, Submix ! Read forum rule 11 and 7b.

[andros]

I sit you not understood the own difficulty of our different language.

Besides the technical problem.

I have not had intention of being a nuisance since it seems that someone says

Only I can begin the fault.

And to ask for clemency

Thank for your help

[submix8c]

@Ponch - understood

@andros - granted

@anyone - PLEASE don't pester for an answer already given as it sounds like an MSNBC Political Interview and the same answer will be provided

re: Rule#11 - I have stated (once) before than MANY times I use caps as they are much more expedient than swipe/click/click/click OR extra leading/trailing characters... I am by nature a "Mainframer" and CAPS were heavily used on a 3270 TSO/ISPF screen interface to COBOL/PLI/ASSEMBLY/FORTRAN (etc) coding... Force of habit, especially since I'm now missing a tip of a finger. Bear with the NORMAL usage of it please - beyond that it may well be "other than" (as in ).

This post has been edited by submix8c: 27 September 2012 - 07:55 AM