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Ways to get back the Start Menu/Button in Win8


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Reorganization of the list has begun -- it's now alphabetized.

Some items that otherwise would seem to be not in order were kept in consecutive listings because they're intended to work together. As the organization of the list improves, I may put these together on the same line/entry.

A future (next?) step will be to break out the Start Menus and Buttons from the Metro bypassers.

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And another (free). . .
Taskbar Classic Start Menu

Hi Laurence,

Do you know if this one works on a Win8 system? The website says that it requires Vista or Win7, but I couldn't find any mention of Windows 8 specifically.

--JorgeA

Hi JorgeA,

I couldn't remember if I had tried that one out, so just gave it another go around; yes, it installed on my Win8 system without any hiccup (that I am presently aware of).

Yes sir, it looks like Ezy Start Menu is the first casualty. :o

And JorgeA, "the list" is looking up, revised and improved! :thumbup

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Wentutu Start Menu has a serious bug with 'All Programs' list if your Windows 8 root drive is other than C. My Windows 7 is on drive C, my Windows 8 is on drive D; I've installed Wentutu on Win8 and it shows me 'All Programs' from my Windows 7.

Thanks for the bug report! Did you notify the author? Maybe he will fix it.

Has anybody else experienced this issue?

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I did, I reported the bug and suggested a few options, but the author wouldn't reply.

If your Windows 8 is on drive other than C, you'll see what I mean, Wentutu can't see other drives.


Huh, thanks for letting us know. I'll keep the listing but add a note to this effect.

Please do post the news if you ever hear back from the author, or if the problem gets fixed.

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Hi JorgeA,

Unfortunately there is no information on Wentutu's website regarding the version of their software, or what fixes if any have been made between releases. However, having said that, I downloaded their Start Menu again this morning; and according to the version number (discovered only upon initializing the install process) now at v.1.6, and the file size which is 47 kb larger, and the Digital Signature is now time stamped Nov. 27, 2012 - I am going to 'assume' that something has changed, and am wondering if 'Servelius' (or any other who had experienced the same bug, and has the same computer setup as Servelius) might give it another go to see if the bug he reported has now been fixed.

This morning I also emailed Wentutu's support and asked about the above, but from what I read, I won't hold my breath waiting for a response. . . but just in case.

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Another. . .

Start 4 Seven (free)

It works in Win8. It is very basic and portable (no install process), and includes a WinXP style Start Button (you chose where to place it onscreen: the center, or the lower or upper left or right), and the button provides what looks to be a complete All Programs list. It does not provide any built-in means to bypass the Metro/Modern start screen, nor automatically start with Windows.

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Edited by Laurence, 02 December 2012 - 08:40 AM.


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Hi Laurence,

Start 4 Seven is one of the more unusual ones -- a Start Menu that floats above the taskbar.

Added to the list.

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Unfortunately there is no information on Wentutu's website regarding the version of their software, or what fixes if any have been made between releases. However, having said that, I downloaded their Start Menu again this morning; and according to the version number (discovered only upon initializing the install process) now at v.1.6, and the file size which is 47 kb larger, and the Digital Signature is now time stamped Nov. 27, 2012 - I am going to 'assume' that something has changed, and am wondering if 'Servelius' (or any other who had experienced the same bug, and has the same computer setup as Servelius) might give it another go to see if the bug he reported has now been fixed.

This morning I also emailed Wentutu's support and asked about the above, but from what I read, I won't hold my breath waiting for a response. . . but just in case.

Hi Laurence,

Thank you for following up on this!

Let me know if they ever reply. I'll keep their listing unchanged pending verification (from them or from a user) that the bug has been fixed.

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Unfortunately there is no information on Wentutu's website regarding the version of their software, or what fixes if any have been made between releases. However, having said that, I downloaded their Start Menu again this morning; and according to the version number (discovered only upon initializing the install process) now at v.1.6, and the file size which is 47 kb larger, and the Digital Signature is now time stamped Nov. 27, 2012 - I am going to 'assume' that something has changed, and am wondering if 'Servelius' (or any other who had experienced the same bug, and has the same computer setup as Servelius) might give it another go to see if the bug he reported has now been fixed.

This morning I also emailed Wentutu's support and asked about the above, but from what I read, I won't hold my breath waiting for a response. . . but just in case.

Hi Laurence,

Thank you for following up on this!

Let me know if they ever reply. I'll keep their listing unchanged pending verification (from them or from a user) that the bug has been fixed.

--JorgeA

Hi JorgeA,

Today I received an email from Wentutu support. . . (inhale & exhale :-)), and in it they stated the bug (which Servelius reported on in this forum) has now been fixed in their latest release.

regards,
Laurence

PS) Wentutu's response email in Full:

Re: Wentutu Start Menu - bug fixes?
On 2012-12-02 00:09, Laurence wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> On another website a user had reported: "Wentutu Start Menu has a
> serious bug with 'All Programs' list if your Windows 8 root drive is
> other than C. My Windows 7 is on drive C, my Windows 8 is on drive D;
> I've installed Wentutu on Win8 and it shows me 'All Programs' from my
> Windows 7." And according to that user, he says that he had reported
> the bug.
>
> This morning I recently downloaded your program again, and I see that
> upon initializing its installation it now says version 1.6 (whereas
> the version tried by the fellow above was an earlier version). And so
> I am writing to ask if the above said bug has now been fixed?
>
> Thank you for your kind offering.
>
> Sincerely,
> Laurence

Hi,
Thank you very much for your feedback and support. We have fixed this
issue. Now you may have a try with the latest version.

Best regards,
Wentutu



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Hi JorgeA,

Today I received an email from Wentutu support. . . (inhale & exhale :-)), and in it they stated the bug (which Servelius reported on in this forum) has now been fixed in their latest release.

:thumbup

Glad to see that they finally got back to you. We'll take off the disclaimer about Wentutu and see if anybody else tries it and reports the bug in their new version.

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Hi JorgeA,

When you next update the list (and obviously only if you want to make the change) there are three programs which presently do not point to their own home pages: 8StartButton, Tihiy's StartIsBack, StartOnDesktop. Two point to downloadcrew.com and Tihiy's is pointing to the MSFN forum.

8StartButton home site is: https://www.totalide...utton/index.php
StartIsBack home site is: http://www.startisback.com/
StartOnDesktop home site is: http://www.joshcells...tOnDesktop.html

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Christmas is getting closer by the day. . . go figure eh. ;-)

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Hi Laurence,

They're fixed now, great. I also updated the URL for Power8.

AFAIK, Tihiy's StartIsBack didn't yet have its own website when I created the list, so it's good to see that it's striking out on its own. I'm leaving in place the link to the MSFN discussion for the benefit of those who'd like to trace the history and details of the project.

BTW, I loved that signature. Reminds me of the guy who used to tell me every November that, "Thanksgiving falls on a Thursday this year, so plan accordingly!" ;)

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Not a Start Menu replacement, but I came across a very attractive desktop theme for Windows 8 that's designed to work with Tihiy's StartIsBack.

Makes the Win8 desktop look almost tolerable!

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Startup Menu and Orb Powered by Rainmeter
http://exper1mental....meter-341889726

Questions & Answers:
What is this?
A rainmeter based application that allows Windows 8 users to bring back the start menu and start orb.

What does it do?
It creates a start menu (not as fancy as the standard start menus of older Windows versions, at least, not yet)

What do you mean by "Rainmeter Powered"?
I call it that because that is the program used to create and run the start menu.

For those of you who have Rainmeter, this is not a replacement, this is a stand-alone Rainmeter skin and application. It will not affect your current Rainmeter files unless you extract it to them.


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Thanks, Andre.

First I had to get a handle on what Rainmeter is, but now I can put this one on the list.

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First I had to get a handle on what Rainmeter is, but now I can put this one on the list.

Rainmeter is hardcore FTW ( as the kids might say ). Seriously amazing creations are possible. They fully exploited the Vista+ concept of gadgets ( really one of the prototypes for Live Tiles ) and the even older concept of themes, resulting in a fusion of these ideas into super-themes. And it works on WinXP also.

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Yeah, it does look pretty neat. I'll dig a little deeper. Another excuse to spend a couple more hours on the computer. :)

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Hi JorgeA,

It looks like another one on the list may have bit the dust.
Dead link: Win8 Charms Gesture + Start to Desktop

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Bummer! Consider it done.

But, thanks for reporting it, and indeed for continuing to review the list info. :thumbup No doubt there are many visitors and lurkers out there who also appreciate it!

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Here's a nice writeup about one of the leading choices on the list, created by an MSFNer.

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P.S. I just noticed that CharlotteTheHarlot linked to the article above over in the "Windows 7 explorer for Windows 8" thread.

Edited by JorgeA, 17 December 2012 - 07:49 PM.


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CharlotteTheHarlot links us to the following story (thanks!):

Pokki has had 500,000 downloads of its Windows 8 Start menu program ( NeoWin 2012-12-20 )


Would be interesting to know how some of the other Start Menu replacements are doing in terms of downloads/sales. Clearly, there is significant demand out there for this sort of thing.

However, the content of the article strongly suggests that Pokki is tracking how people use their program (and not simply the number of times it's downloaded), so you may want to keep that in mind when considering this particular Start Menu replacement.

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Edited by JorgeA, 21 December 2012 - 01:02 PM.


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@JorgeA: This is a really handy thread. Thanks.

I have recently started trialing StartIsBack. The standout feature of this program, I think, is that it can optionally disable the display of desktop apps in the W8 start screen. Furthermore, it does not show metro apps in the StartIsBack menu. This means that desktop app launcher and metro app launcher are completely separate (StartIsBack menu and W8 start screen respectively) which I like a lot. Before I settle on StartIsBack, are there any other start menu replacements which have this feature?

Unrelated - when I try to view page 3 of this thread, my browser (google chrome) gives the following malware warning:

Attached File  page 3 malware.PNG   156.86KB   20 downloads

Edited by ozaz, 22 December 2012 - 01:01 PM.


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The image in the signature of Ultimatesilence is a seemingly plain .jpg hosted there:
hxxp://yyyy.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/7preh.gif

If that is the culprit, each and every page where there is a post by that member should give you that same warning.

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@JorgeA: This is a really handy thread. Thanks.

You're welcome -- glad to see it's making a difference!

I have recently started trialing StartIsBack. The standout feature of this program, I think, is that it can optionally disable the display of desktop apps in the W8 start screen. Furthermore, it does not show metro apps in the StartIsBack menu. This means that desktop app launcher and metro app launcher are completely separate (StartIsBack menu and W8 start screen respectively) which I like a lot. Before I settle on StartIsBack, are there any other start menu replacements which have this feature?

I'm not aware of other Start Menu replacements that can do this, but then I haven't really focused on that feature. Can anyone else weigh in on this?

Unrelated - when I try to view page 3 of this thread, my browser (google chrome) gives the following malware warning:

Huh, weird. Sounds like it may be a FP. I keep one antivirus and two anti-malware programs resident, and none of them gives a warning for that or anything else on that page.

Maybe VirusTotal could shed some light on the matter.

--JorgeA

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CharlotteTheHarlot links us to the following story (thanks!):

Pokki has had 500,000 downloads of its Windows 8 Start menu program ( NeoWin 2012-12-20 )


Would be interesting to know how some of the other Start Menu replacements are doing in terms of downloads/sales. Clearly, there is significant demand out there for this sort of thing.

--JorgeA


Classic Shell has 2.5 million :thumbup: http://sourceforge.n...8 to 2012-12-23

Impossible to run NT6 without third party fixes.


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but in 3 Years. And I also download it for Win7, but never use the Startmenu ;)
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Yes in 3 years. :) 'Only' 750,000 since Windows 8 got launched. Posted Image Despite the Explorer component being basically crippled on Windows 8 in many ways due to MS's evil deeds.

Edited by xpclient, 23 December 2012 - 05:25 AM.

Impossible to run NT6 without third party fixes.





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