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Tihiy

Start Is Back - 2.1 release

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I've been a user since the first version of Ex7ForW8, which is still far better than alternative solutions, imo. Thank you for making Microsoft's best OS yet, usable and familiar. I only needed one license for the time being, but couldn't be happier to pay for 5. Keep up the marvelous work and active development!

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Not sure if it has been reported already, but if you stop on an item with a jumplist, wait for it to show, and then move to another item - when jumplist closes, the item beneath the cursor loses focus if it has no jumplist.

Reproduced.

Same here.

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Not sure if it has been reported already, but if you stop on an item with a jumplist, wait for it to show, and then move to another item - when jumplist closes, the item beneath the cursor loses focus if it has no jumplist.

Same as in Windows 7.

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Not sure if it has been reported already, but if you stop on an item with a jumplist, wait for it to show, and then move to another item - when jumplist closes, the item beneath the cursor loses focus if it has no jumplist.

Same as in Windows 7.

Yep, reproduced both with StartIsBack under Windows 8 as well as with Microsoft's original Start Menu under Windows 7.

It's in Microsoft's code, not Tihiy's (well, either that or he intentionally reproduced said behaviour).

Personally I am not bothered by it but I wouldn't mind it being "rectified" either, definitely not a showstopper though or sth that should be given priority over other improvements already planned.

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Wheel button opens the Start screen for me.

Thanks. I use the wheel-click as double-click (very convenient btw) so that will not work unfortunately. My thought was for a Start Menu item/shortcut for the Start Screen, or the aforementioned Hot-Corner.

You say you use the middle button as double click, why not just turn off double click, I have had it turned off for years, that way you could use the middle click's default (much more convenient)

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Not sure if it has been reported already, but if you stop on an item with a jumplist, wait for it to show, and then move to another item - when jumplist closes, the item beneath the cursor loses focus if it has no jumplist.

Same as in Windows 7.

You probably did not reproduce that behavior intentionally, so I guess it's Microsoft code after all...

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You say you use the middle button as double click, why not just turn off double click, I have had it turned off for years, that way you could use the middle click's default (much more convenient)

But that's because the middle-click is practically useless to me (it's hardly mandatory in the vast majority of all software, and my guess is that most people do not use it) while the double-click is ubiquitous. So, replacing it with the wheel-click, saves countless clicks and protects healthy hands (and doesn't overwork problematic hands like mine). The wheel-click could be assigned to another, less prominent mouse button, but that won't help people who don't own multiple-button mouses ("mice" sounds wrong :)) .

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You say you use the middle button as double click, why not just turn off double click, I have had it turned off for years, that way you could use the middle click's default (much more convenient)

But that's because the middle-click is practically useless to me (it's hardly mandatory in the vast majority of all software, and my guess is that most people do not use it) while the double-click is ubiquitous. So, replacing it with the wheel-click, saves countless clicks and protects healthy hands (and doesn't overwork problematic hands like mine). The wheel-click could be assigned to another, less prominent mouse button, but that won't help people who don't own multiple-button mouses ("mice" sounds wrong :)) .

Well that was why I suggested turning on single click in folder options and then you will never have to double click anything ever again, I hate double click, it's a waste of time and annoying to me, that's why I have it off.

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I've got double-click mapped to the Forward button (Back button is for switching between programs - click once and it does Alt+Esc, hold down and scroll with wheel and it does Alt+(Shift+)Tab).

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You say you use the middle button as double click, why not just turn off double click, I have had it turned off for years, that way you could use the middle click's default (much more convenient)

But that's because the middle-click is practically useless to me (it's hardly mandatory in the vast majority of all software, and my guess is that most people do not use it) while the double-click is ubiquitous. So, replacing it with the wheel-click, saves countless clicks and protects healthy hands (and doesn't overwork problematic hands like mine). The wheel-click could be assigned to another, less prominent mouse button, but that won't help people who don't own multiple-button mouses ("mice" sounds wrong :)) .

Well that was why I suggested turning on single click in folder options and then you will never have to double click anything ever again, I hate double click, it's a waste of time and annoying to me, that's why I have it off.

But then you have to R-Click and select rename (for example) instead of single click then hit F2. I could never get unused to that :lol:

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You say you use the middle button as double click, why not just turn off double click, I have had it turned off for years, that way you could use the middle click's default (much more convenient)

But that's because the middle-click is practically useless to me (it's hardly mandatory in the vast majority of all software, and my guess is that most people do not use it) while the double-click is ubiquitous. So, replacing it with the wheel-click, saves countless clicks and protects healthy hands (and doesn't overwork problematic hands like mine). The wheel-click could be assigned to another, less prominent mouse button, but that won't help people who don't own multiple-button mouses ("mice" sounds wrong :)) .

Well that was why I suggested turning on single click in folder options and then you will never have to double click anything ever again, I hate double click, it's a waste of time and annoying to me, that's why I have it off.

But then you have to R-Click and select rename (for example) instead of single click then hit F2. I could never get unused to that :lol:

Yeah I can see your point but I have never used F2 to rename, always used the right click and selected rename from the context menu lol I guess it's a matter of preference :)

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Tiihy, someone taking a shot at Start Is Back here. :whistle:

Tobin's statement *might*, technically, be true. Whether MS would consider it worth it to do anything about it, however, who knows. It's his opinion, everyone has their right to have one. At least he didn't express his negative opinion in the SiB thread. :D

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Tiihy, someone taking a shot at Start Is Back here. :whistle:

Tobin's statement *might*, technically, be true. Whether MS would consider it worth it to do anything about it, however, who knows. It's his opinion, everyone has their right to have one. At least he didn't express his negative opinion in the SiB thread. :D

Exactly! No need to track down all the haters. Haters gonna hate.

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I wonder what his personal agenda is regarding Start8 perhaps he has shares? I have tried it I do not think its that great. I prefer startisback anytime, keep up the good work.

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Hi when new version will be out?

Like he said....this week.

This week isn't over yet.

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And here it is!

VERSION 1.2 RELEASE

http://www.startisback.com/StartIsBack_setup.exe

Changes over 1.2RC2:

- Fixed: hibernate shutdown option could fail to show in configurator

- Fixed: high contast themes start menu issues

- Fixed: popping combined start screen / button menu shifts cursor position

- New: Control Panel shortcut for Start menu configuration

- Updated AeroByDesign style

- Installing for all users no longer requires log off

Some rewriting i planned will go to 1.3 since it requires testing.

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Great, the text in the main part of Start Menu is now visible for me :)

It'd be nice if something could be done about submenus (Shut down, Control Panel etc.), but at least the text is visible there, even if the selection isn't.

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Thanks for the update. The new installer caused most tray icons of running applications (security software, Yahoo Messenger etc.) to disappear. Sign out/in was necessary to get everything back. Tested on Win 8 x86.

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Thanks for the update. The new installer caused most tray icons of running applications (security software, Yahoo Messenger etc.) to disappear. Sign out/in was necessary to get everything back. Tested on Win 8 x86.

Not duplicated here, everything came back to my surprise. Windows 8 Enterprise x64

Thanks Tihiy for the update!

Edit: FYI this was an upgrade from v1.2 RC 2.

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IE 10 doesn't seem to like it. Tried on 3 different machines. You can still install it, it just complains about it.

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IE 10 doesn't seem to like it. Tried on 3 different machines. You can still install it, it just complains about it.

Could be because timestamp is not valid yet for your time zone or your clock is set up wrong. Retry in 8 hours?
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IE 10 doesn't seem to like it. Tried on 3 different machines. You can still install it, it just complains about it.

Could be because timestamp is not valid yet for your time zone or your clock is set up wrong. Retry in 8 hours?

Time and date are fine. I'll try again tomorrow.

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