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Hello, sorry for spam, this is not directly StartIsBack related, but someone could be interested in it.

Would somebody be interested in the development of the small utility which returns transparent titlebars in Win8? This is not regular Aero Glass but the utility (currently slow and buggy) which replaces windows titlebars with transparent images.

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Aero Glass for Win8.x --> http://www.glass8.eu


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On a QuadCore i7, (x64-bit) all my Start Menu icons went missing - this is the first time, this has been observed:-


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i also often have this problem
Right-clicking the start menu and clicking OK solves the problem

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Hi mosaji, :)

Do you also have so many programs listed on the white side of the pane (like mine)?


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Would somebody be interested in the development of the small utility which returns transparent titlebars in Win8? This is not regular Aero Glass but the utility (currently slow and buggy) which replaces windows titlebars with transparent images.


you can start a new topic here in the Win8 section. Is it based on the old tool "TrueTransparency"?
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I will start it, just wanted to know whether someone is really interested in it... no it is not based on any tool, it is completely new (and very small) utility (let's say something like WindowBlinds but intended for window titles only).
Aero Glass for Win8.x --> http://www.glass8.eu

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Hello,
First sorry for my bad english
I tested startisback and I find it very good.
However I have proposed improvements to make it perfect.
Before I try startisback i tried start8 and this tools allowed to open an application from Metro ui shortcut within the start menu.
Is this an update is possible with this improvement? it would be great
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Hello,
First sorry for my bad english
I tested startisback and I find it very good.
However I have proposed improvements to make it perfect.
Before I try startisback i tried start8 and this tools allowed to open an application from Metro ui shortcut within the start menu.
Is this an update is possible with this improvement? it would be great
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After a bit of searching I found this program to give you shortcuts for all the default apps for Windows 8 http://pasquiindustr...er-il-download/ it wont give you shortcuts for any of the new apps you install, to use these in the start menu you can just pin them after you make them or just add the new shortcuts to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs and they will appear at the top of the all programs list.

Edit: Sorry after a bit of testing I found out that most of the created shortcuts don't work, the only ones that worked were Store, Travel, Messaging and People, the developer also included a readme that explains about some of the other shortcuts having problems, looks like these shortcuts may also change after updates so they would need to be continually updated.

Edit: tested Start8 again and it does appear they found a way to launch all installed apps from the modern UI applications folder and they also allow you to pin those to their start menu, maybe Tihiy will find a way to do this with SiB but I don't think there is much advantage in doing it that way, at the moment with Sib it requires 2 clicks to open the modern application, middle click the start button and click on the app, where as with Start8 you have to open the start menu, open all programs, then open the modern applications folder then click on the application, I think it's best to keep the desktop start menu for desktop applications and keep the modern UI separate.

Edited by MrGRiM, 09 December 2012 - 11:52 PM.


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Hi mosaji, :)

Do you also have so many programs listed on the white side of the pane (like mine)?

i have 11 programs

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Thanks for the response - only trying to figure out a connection between our configuration. ;)


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From what I have seen, Classic Shell adds all the standard "Metro" apps to their start menu in a separate list "Apps" and the desktop apps are under "Programs". Seems like an easy way to keep them separate yet easily available -- Open the start menu, click Apps, click the app you want. It worked for me today when I was cleaning up my neighbor's new laptop that came with Win 8 installed. It was the first time I've actually been forced to mess with Win 8 on actual hardware.

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Start Is Back broke the highlighting function when there is a new installed program.

Can you fix this in a next release? I need it.

Edited by Max_04, 10 December 2012 - 07:34 AM.

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On Win8 X64-bit When doing a Silent Install of StartIsBack (either v.1.1 and 1.2) System Crashes to a blue Screen and locks down then I need to do a force restart..

Some driver is crashing due to explorer restarting. To work this around, add taskkill /F /IM explorer* to your script.

Start Is Back broke the highlighting function when there is a new installed program.

Well, it never was working. It will be fixed or removed from new version.

Edited by Tihiy, 10 December 2012 - 07:52 AM.


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On Win8 X64-bit When doing a Silent Install of StartIsBack (either v.1.1 and 1.2) System Crashes to a blue Screen and locks down then I need to do a force restart..

Some driver is crashing due to explorer restarting. To work this around, add taskkill /F /IM explorer* to your script.


Tihiy, thanks for the suggestion but your only half right..If you kill the explorer process as you suggested
your program still Bsod's out. You Have to restart explorer.exe or else you just get stuck in a endless looping
Blue Screen. See my now Working script below which will also work in a sfx.exe package for integrating into Windows 8.

btw why did you delete my original post?

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Which BSOD is it? What does BlueScreenView say about the BSOD?

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Ehm. Is it (was it) BSOD or just blue screen without explorer loaded?

Edited by Tihiy, 10 December 2012 - 01:00 PM.


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Ehm. Is it (was it) BSOD or just blue screen without explorer loaded?



Explorer.exe is not reloading back to the desktop so just blue screen no dumpfile
Only happens when using your silent switch, when you run normally installs and runs like it should.

Curious if anyone else has tried to do the silent install and had the same thing happen?
Tihiy, if you could use the /qn in future update that would make it totally silent as well instead of the basic auto-install
and seeing the install progress bar

Edited by DosProbie, 11 December 2012 - 04:51 AM.


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What's the status of licensing StartIsBack for use at work?

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What's the status of licensing StartIsBack for use at work?

Unfortunately, it's not possible yet, but I hope it will be after 1.3.

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And here it is!
VERSION 1.2 RELEASE
http://www.startisba...sBack_setup.exe

Changes over 1.2RC2:


- Fixed: hibernate shutdown option could fail to show in configurator
- Fixed: high contast themes start menu issues
- Fixed: popping combined start screen / button menu shifts cursor position
- New: Control Panel shortcut for Start menu configuration
- Updated AeroByDesign style
- Installing for all users no longer requires log off


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Thanks so much @Tihiy, all works as charm in this release. AeroByDesign is awesome and now it's my favorite skin.

Although not new in this release, it's still worth to note another great feature: the shutdown button shows the yellow update mark once system updates are ready.

Control Panel shortcut is cool too.

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Hello, sorry for spam, this is not directly StartIsBack related, but someone could be interested in it.

Would somebody be interested in the development of the small utility which returns transparent titlebars in Win8? This is not regular Aero Glass but the utility (currently slow and buggy) which replaces windows titlebars with transparent images.


Interesting, but IMHO transparent borders without Aero Blur are not as good as solid. What I truly want added to Windows 8 is Flip3D as in Windows 7.

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Explorer.exe is not reloading back to the desktop so just blue screen no dumpfile
Only happens when using your silent switch, when you run normally installs and runs like it should.

Curious if anyone else has tried to do the silent install and had the same thing happen?
Tihiy, if you could use the /qn in future update that would make it totally silent as well instead of the basic auto-install
and seeing the install progress bar


I'm reluctant to try the silent method, but still might that be some driver bugging out, what does your bsod error say?

Every blue screen creates crash report in X:\Windows\Minidump, so a .dmp has to be there, of course if you haven't changed your system default setting.

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I have brought 5 licenses now, I just hope is no issues me reinstalling VM's chewing up my activations.

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Version 1.3 Release Candidate 0
http://www.startisba...ack_setupRC.exe

- Prevented rogue programs from moving orb
- Fixed severe MFU / pinned program list performance and refresh issues
- Newly installed programs are highlighted


1.3 will likely contain no new major features but important fixes.
In 1.3RC0 start menu refresh logic was improved and involves much less I/O which should fix performance problems and icon missing situations.

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I noticed a small problem: my taskbar is set to auto-hide. If I view an image full-screen in IrfanView (Enter on keyboard), and press the Windows key, the taskbar doesn't appear, while the Start orb sometimes does (over the image), and sometimes doesn't. Start Menu always opens, but again, sometimes it appears in it's normal place (above where the taskbar should be), and sometimes it appears right at the bottom of the screen. Happens with both 1.2 and 1.3rc0.

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I see another issue - clicking on start orb acts weird now - sometimes menu opens, sometimes it does not, sometimes it just flashes... For now, just posting to see if someone else sees it.

Edited by higH1, 12 December 2012 - 04:06 PM.


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Version 1.3 Release Candidate 0
http://www.startisba...ack_setupRC.exe

- Prevented rogue programs from moving orb
- Fixed severe MFU / pinned program list performance and refresh issues
- Newly installed programs are highlighted


1.3 will likely contain no new major features but important fixes.
In 1.3RC0 start menu refresh logic was improved and involves much less I/O which should fix performance problems and icon missing situations.


I suggest adding either a reboot prompt or warning box.

When I updated from previous pre release RC to 1.2.1 so I could activate, all my pinned items were gone and "pin to start menu" was gone in menus, I assumed I just needed a reboot and I was right, all ok again after the reboot, but the app upgrade installer didn't tell me that.

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Prevented rogue programs from moving orb


what's this meaning?




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