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is the charms really enabling the hot corner (bottom left) even startisback has disabled it? or it is just native to be like that in windows 8?

When you invoke any kind of Modern UI, all hot corners are enabled.


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is the charms really enabling the hot corner (bottom left) even startisback has disabled it? or it is just native to be like that in windows 8?

When you invoke any kind of Modern UI, all hot corners are enabled.


found something
when i put the taskbar on the sides and when i click on the start menu, it covers the taskbar.. or is it just me?
here's a screenshot

oh when will the official support be up? i'll be glad to help :lol:

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when i put the taskbar on the sides and when i click on the start menu, it covers the taskbar.. or is it just me?
oh when will the official support be up? i'll be glad to help :lol:

It's supposed to be this way. For now, opening another support forum is not worth the security risk / maintenance time. :ph34r:

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when i put the taskbar on the sides and when i click on the start menu, it covers the taskbar.. or is it just me?
oh when will the official support be up? i'll be glad to help :lol:

It's supposed to be this way. For now, opening another support forum is not worth the security risk / maintenance time. :ph34r:


i guess you may put the start menu beside the taskbar.. there will be some instances when you forgot what program have you ran.... or you want to check what programs are running without closing the start menu.. something like that.. so i wouldn't waste 2 clicks just to check what programs are on the taskbar

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when i put the taskbar on the sides and when i click on the start menu, it covers the taskbar.. or is it just me?

It's supposed to be this way.

i guess you may put the start menu beside the taskbar..


Sorry, I disagree. StartIsBack has the exact same behavior as Windows 7, which it should. While I understand that your suggestion would allow a very, very small improvement in efficiency in one very particular case, I personally feel in this case it is better to conform to the established "standard" behavior. If in the future, if Tihiy can and wishes to add your suggested behavior as an option, then that might be appropriate, but it should definitely should not be default behavior nor a priority to implement, IMO.

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Hi! I noticed an issue.
When some programs are pinned on the start menu, it's possible to show recent files, or main actions (like ccleaner)
If you click on the arrow in the figure, it shows the side panel as it's expected to do. But the animation is not as fluid as in windows 7: a white shadow appears and then it is covered by the panel.
I think the attached image explains a lot better what I'm trying to say.
Is it possible to make the animation more win7-like?
thanks a lot!

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Is it possible to make the animation more win7-like?

That can be fixed by disabling start menu translucency (or animations). :}

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Tihiy, thank you very much for the quick answer!
I think startisback is mostly perfect, that one is not even a glitch.
Keep on!

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The team from start8 now have just released an app to open every metro apps in an explorer process into the desktop, maybe startisback can have this function in future?

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The team from start8 now have just released an app to open every metro apps in an explorer process into the desktop, maybe startisback can have this function in future?

Yes, SIB 3.0 is planned to have this feature, (when / if) it is released.

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The team from start8 now have just released an app to open every metro apps in an explorer process into the desktop, maybe startisback can have this function in future?

I have both StartIsBack and the beta of ModernMix (from Stardock) on my Windows 8 computers (a total cost of only $6.00 US per computer), and it is really nice how they work with each other. As for Tihiy adding the features of ModernMix to StartIsBack, I think I'd rather he didn't. I love StartIsBack and I'd rather not see it get too bloated with features that really aren't functions of the Windows 7 start menu.

Edited by CompUser, 08 March 2013 - 02:14 PM.


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I love StartIsBack and I'd rather not see it get too bloated with features that really aren't functions of the Windows 7 start menu.

This is still a preliminary idea and will be discussed later. As for ModernMix, compatibility improvements for it will be in next version.

Also, I've implemented long-needed direct card payments on the site.

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Also, I've implemented long-needed direct card payments on the site.

The way this is implemented is insecure - the CC entry form opens in an overlay of an insecure site.

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Also, I've implemented long-needed direct card payments on the site.

The way this is implemented is insecure - the CC entry form opens in an overlay of an insecure site.

Fixed this.

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That's very unlikely. You can try 1.3.3 to be sure: http://www.startisba...ck_setup133.exe (uninstall 2.0 first).


Hello again,
I finally tried to switch back as you suggested, and you were correct, of course.
Without StartisBack - its fine, it stays in the Startscreen. With Startisback, regardless of the version and regardless of the Settings, it switches to the desktop after some seconds (a bit earlier if set to switch to desktop anyways).


Do you have any other program installed that would do that? Any other Start Menu program (Classic Shell...etc)? That's the behavior that would happen if that were so.


I have lots of programs including cygwin, but in the Autostart installed by me just these: AltDrag and VirtuaWin. And the issue was already before I installed those.
What kinds of programs would force the switch to the desktop, do you have an idea?

Thanks for you help!
Cheers.

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What kinds of programs would force the switch to the desktop, do you have an idea?

Any program which shows windows on desktop.

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startisback is the best program of appearing so far. then start8 from Stardock. startisback's almost like the Windows 7 and is in control panel but also has some problems. I noticed that after leaving a game and press the Windows key and the menu does not appear hurt about it. (the game is nfsworld).would be great poop would appear in the taskbar that we can make changes.and would be great if it's a blend. the themes of W8 and W7 I mean like a mix.and the home of windows8 screen and taskbar appear

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is it possible to export/sync the setting betweens several PCs?
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is it possible to export/sync the setting betweens several PCs?

You can export HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced and HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\StartIsBack registry keys.

Version 2.0.2 is out
http://www.startisba...m/#download-tab
- Improved compatibility with non-fullscreen modern apps (read ModernMix)
- Shortcuts for games are no longer created in Games start menu subfolder. Games can be searched from Start menu search
- Fix: Start Screen shortcut was removed by some cleaners

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Dear Tihiy,
it is a nice idea. I am not using Windows 8 atm. But I have a licence question:
2 PCs 3 US-$

What about Virtual Machines (eg Over VirtualBox)?

Some Suggestions:
Would it be possible to make the taskbar and Start Button changeable for Users to 7like, Vistalike or XPlike?

Means: Account: User1 likes 7 and User2 likes Vista Look.

Greetings
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Every PC (including virtual ones) uses one of the available licenses. Reinstalls count the same as the original installation in each circumstance.

I thought the SiB configuration was specific for each and every user already.

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I did not reproduce Outlook issue and there was no additional fixes for it.

I just re-confirmed it with 2.0.2.

Did you use Outlook 2013 (I can't confirm for any earlier version)? If so, what kind of mail account did you use to test with? I'm testing with POP3, and it's a total wipeout with your start screen uncluttering feature enabled: no toast, no notification sound. The mail just magically appears. At least you see the new mail symbol in Outlook's taskbar icon, otherwise it would be impossible to know if mail came in.

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I just re-confirmed it with 2.0.2.

And I did. Unfortunately, this is due to the way 'Rename Start to Apps" is implemented - all desktop apps are isolated from Modern UI environment. I'll try to resolve this in the future version. Sorry for the trouble!

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Thanks for the New Update..Working Good ! Posted Image
Been manually adding a shortcut to Disk Cleanup to System Tools ,
how hard would it be to add this in next version?



I answered and fixed my own question, the below script (remove .txt extension) installs the following missing windows apps back to the Start Menu similar to Windows 7.

Accessories
- Bluetooth Transfer
- Mobility Center
- Sync Center

Maintenance
- Backup and Restore Center
- Create Recovery Disc
- Remote Assistance

Programs
- Windows Update

System Tools
- Optimize Disks
- Disk Cleanup
- Private Character Editor
- Resource Monitor
- System Information
- System Restore
- Task Scheduler
- Windows Easy Transfer

Windows Ease of Access
- Ease Of Access Center


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By the way, toasts seems like a nice way to notify about new version of StartIsBack without going to properties.
I think I'll use toasts as an additional way of notifying about new SIB versions with v2.1.




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