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Hey just are the first view and testing but we know that Tihiy will back with a stat menu ready for the Windows Blue, by now the legacy code has been removed and I trust that Tihiy are now working in that because this Win Blue is just a preview and still missing many arrangements in this leaked version, we need to wait and let Tihiy work on it. :rolleyes:

Your entire comment can be shortened to:

we need to wait




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Ok, but if you want to know something about this pre release go to this link http://www.infoworld...e-waited-215184 are more, but I have it and I testing this freaking windows blue, but as I said we need to wait and allow Tihiy to work with this new version or Major Release that's expected to arrive around August. :thumbup

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Ok, but if you want to know something about this pre release go to this link http://www.infoworld...e-waited-215184 are more, but I have it and I testing this freaking windows blue, but as I said we need to wait and allow Tihiy to work with this new version or Major Release that's expected to arrive around August. :thumbup

I've been running Blue for days. Enough already.

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Ok, but if you want to know something about this pre release go to this link http://www.infoworld...e-waited-215184 are more, but I have it and I testing this freaking windows blue, but as I said we need to wait and allow Tihiy to work with this new version or Major Release that's expected to arrive around August. :thumbup

I've been running Blue for days. Enough already.

Me too, but I want to explore everything. :angel

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for me, I'll never upgrade to blue if it means to lose the orb. SIB for all the life.

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Tihiy,

Is it possible to support two activations on the same install? I have Windows 8 + StartIsBack installed on a partition and activated with the key that I bought. SIB activates fine. I also boot into the same physical partition from another OS using VMware and, of course, this changes the hardware configuration entirely. StartIsBack wants me to reactivate again - that is fine, as one license supports two computers and the activation goes through. What I'm having problems with, however, is that stopping the VM and running Windows directly again like normal requires StartIsBack reactivation again (and then when I activate again, I need to reactivate when running in VMware again and this cycle continues).
I'm not asking for any free keys or anything like that - I already have one and two PCs with one license key is very generous and I'd happily pay again for another key if I needed it - it's just I would like to save myself from having to activate again and again every time I switch between booting in VMware and booting directly. (Yes, this is a weird combination but it's the most convenient way for me to get things done.)

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Tihiy,

Is it possible to support two activations on the same install? I have Windows 8 + StartIsBack installed on a partition and activated with the key that I bought. SIB activates fine. I also boot into the same physical partition from another OS using VMware and, of course, this changes the hardware configuration entirely. StartIsBack wants me to reactivate again - that is fine, as one license supports two computers and the activation goes through. What I'm having problems with, however, is that stopping the VM and running Windows directly again like normal requires StartIsBack reactivation again (and then when I activate again, I need to reactivate when running in VMware again and this cycle continues).
I'm not asking for any free keys or anything like that - I already have one and two PCs with one license key is very generous and I'd happily pay again for another key if I needed it - it's just I would like to save myself from having to activate again and again every time I switch between booting in VMware and booting directly. (Yes, this is a weird combination but it's the most convenient way for me to get things done.)

There is demand for this scenario, so I should fix it in the next version. Maybe just make VM use free.

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Windows Blue will bring Start Screen sync between PCs =>
Microsoft's Windows Blue update for Windows 8, due out later this year, will add the much needed feature of being able to sync the Start Screen between different PCs. Syncing will also go a step further with tabs for Internet Explorer 11.

The new syncing features were found by Rafael Rivera and Paul Thurrot within the leaked Windows Blue build. They note that syncing the Start Screen will be as simple as signing in on two different PCs with the same Microsoft account. Pinned tiles, their individual sizes, and their arrangement on the Start Screen will all seamlessly be transferred with no effort from the user.

The syncing feature for Internet Explorer 11, which is baked into Blue, works similarly to what Apple offers with its Safari browser. Web page tabs that are pulled up within the browser will sync between a user's PCs. There's also the good chance it will extend to Windows Phone Blue as well, but no build has been leaked for the mobile version as of yet for us to test it out.

Other parts of Windows Blue that will sync between PCs are File History, Input Personalization, Explorer Quick Links, App Secondary Tiles, and Tethering. The features were revealed in the internal settings of Blue -- not yet available for use in the leaked build. It's all pretty nifty if you ask us.

So when will you get to try the features on your PC? The substantial update to Windows 8 is expected to be released this autumn. Yesterday, Microsoft confirmed the Blue project is indeed under works at Redmond, but it won't ship by the Blue name to consumers.

We're able to get an early look at features thanks to a build of Blue that was leaked to tinkerers early. Besides syncing, Microsoft has included resizable tiles, app multi-tasking, and more. We're sure there's more to be found.

Reports have noted that Blue's intention is to bring Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 closer together, by including services from each platform. A Blue update is also expected for Windows Phone 8 later this year, with similar refinements.

Blue is rumoured to come at a cheaper price point than past Windows versions, much like Apple did with Mountain Lion and Lion. It should mark the start of yearly updates from Redmond.

Microsoft will more than likely take the wraps off of Blue at the company's Build developer conference being held 26 - 28 June at the Moscone Center in San Francisco. A public preview is slated to be released around the same time frame.

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Windows Blue will bring Start Screen sync between PCs =>
Microsoft's Windows Blue update for Windows 8, due out later this year, will add the much needed feature of being able to sync the Start Screen between different PCs. Syncing will also go a step further with tabs for Internet Explorer 11.

The new syncing features were found by Rafael Rivera and Paul Thurrot within the leaked Windows Blue build. They note that syncing the Start Screen will be as simple as signing in on two different PCs with the same Microsoft account. Pinned tiles, their individual sizes, and their arrangement on the Start Screen will all seamlessly be transferred with no effort from the user.

The syncing feature for Internet Explorer 11, which is baked into Blue, works similarly to what Apple offers with its Safari browser. Web page tabs that are pulled up within the browser will sync between a user's PCs. There's also the good chance it will extend to Windows Phone Blue as well, but no build has been leaked for the mobile version as of yet for us to test it out.

Other parts of Windows Blue that will sync between PCs are File History, Input Personalization, Explorer Quick Links, App Secondary Tiles, and Tethering. The features were revealed in the internal settings of Blue -- not yet available for use in the leaked build. It's all pretty nifty if you ask us.

So when will you get to try the features on your PC? The substantial update to Windows 8 is expected to be released this autumn. Yesterday, Microsoft confirmed the Blue project is indeed under works at Redmond, but it won't ship by the Blue name to consumers.

We're able to get an early look at features thanks to a build of Blue that was leaked to tinkerers early. Besides syncing, Microsoft has included resizable tiles, app multi-tasking, and more. We're sure there's more to be found.

Reports have noted that Blue's intention is to bring Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 closer together, by including services from each platform. A Blue update is also expected for Windows Phone 8 later this year, with similar refinements.

Blue is rumoured to come at a cheaper price point than past Windows versions, much like Apple did with Mountain Lion and Lion. It should mark the start of yearly updates from Redmond.

Microsoft will more than likely take the wraps off of Blue at the company's Build developer conference being held 26 - 28 June at the Moscone Center in San Francisco. A public preview is slated to be released around the same time frame.


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I just installed startisback 2.0 today, and it is cool.

One thing I am missing though, from the Win7 Start Menu.

In Win7, one could right-click on a program or shortcut (or folder, or anything really), and choose "Pin to Start Menu". Once one did that, one would see it in the first start menu that comes up on pressing the Start button, before clicking "All Programs".

Of course one would not want to put most programs there and get that first menu cluttered, but it is a convenient place to put a few programs or folders that one wants to access very easily, with one less mouse click than is involved in clicking "All Programs".

In Win8 (with startisback installed), one still sees the context menu choice "Pin to Start Menu". However, clicking on it does not put it on the first menu of startisback. (I assume it pins it to the Metro start screen, which I don't care about.)

Could you add a context menu item throughout Windows Explorer, perhaps entitled "Pin to Startisback Menu", that could pin items to that first menu one sees on pressing the Start button. (Or better yet, rather than adding another context menu choice, change the behavior of the current "Pin to Start Menu", so that it pins to the startisback menu rather than the Metro screen?) (As an option, of course.)

Is that possible? Or is there some way to set that now?

Thanks for the app.

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I just installed startisback 2.0 today, and it is cool.

One thing I am missing though, from the Win7 Start Menu.

In Win7, one could right-click on a program or shortcut (or folder, or anything really), and choose "Pin to Start Menu". Once one did that, one would see it in the first start menu that comes up on pressing the Start button, before clicking "All Programs".

Of course one would not want to put most programs there and get that first menu cluttered, but it is a convenient place to put a few programs or folders that one wants to access very easily, with one less mouse click than is involved in clicking "All Programs".

In Win8 (with startisback installed), one still sees the context menu choice "Pin to Start Menu". However, clicking on it does not put it on the first menu of startisback. (I assume it pins it to the Metro start screen, which I don't care about.)

Could you add a context menu item throughout Windows Explorer, perhaps entitled "Pin to Startisback Menu", that could pin items to that first menu one sees on pressing the Start button. (Or better yet, rather than adding another context menu choice, change the behavior of the current "Pin to Start Menu", so that it pins to the startisback menu rather than the Metro screen?) (As an option, of course.)

Is that possible? Or is there some way to set that now?

Thanks for the app.


When you select Pin to Start Menu it should pin it to the top of the left hand side of the start menu, exactly like Win7. Right above the most used apps. There have been reports of that not working and if I remember correctly they always fixed it with a reinstall of SiB.

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I've just installed version 2.1.
- The problem of dragging folders to different positions seems to be fixed. I've tried arranging some folders a few times and they go to the place I want them there. Thanks for this fixing.
- The folders are still below, not above other items on All Programs on XP style. It doesn't matter, however, because I prefer W7 style.
- 'Start screen to Apps screen' feature works as it is stated, but what is this for?

Tihiy,
Can you make the Properties remember the tab I opened last time? I mainly go to Appearance only to change the orb. It's always the first tab active every time I open the Properties.
Thanks in advance.

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- The problem of dragging folders to different positions seems to be fixed. I've tried arranging some folders a few times and they go to the place I want them there. Thanks for this fixing.

This problem is kind of random since sometimes Windows 7/8 loses folder update notifications.

- The folders are still below, not above other items on All Programs on XP style. It doesn't matter, however, because I prefer W7 style.

That's right, but subfolders of folders are, like in XP. Although still not 100% like it. Not sure if items should go after folders in main tree.

- 'Start screen to Apps screen' feature works as it is stated, but what is this for?

What's the use for it? There is some.

Can you make the Properties remember the tab I opened last time? I mainly go to Appearance only to change the orb. It's always the first tab active every time I open the Properties.

Maybe. For now, you can launch StartIsBackCfg.exe /appearance.

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-That's right, but subfolders of folders are, like in XP. Although still not 100% like it. Not sure if items should go after folders in main tree.

Well, in XP icons would be sorted both before and after folders; specifically, icons that classic Start Menu placed at the top of Start menu (not in Programs) were displayed first, followed by Programs content after a separator.
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Well, in XP icons would be sorted both before and after folders; specifically, icons that classic Start Menu placed at the top of Start menu (not in Programs) were displayed first, followed by Programs content after a separator.

I know; that's a mess.

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What's the use for it? There is some.

I guess it's useful to prevent the start screen from adding too many tiles on it when new applications are installed. I used to unpin a lot of unnecessary tiles when I installed the applications that are not from the Store.

And, thank you for the shortcut to open the properties. I'll pin it to the Start Menu.

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Doesn't work for me. As said, I see Pin to Start Menu in the Win Explorer context menu, but that doesn't add the item to the SIB menu. All I see in the first SIB menu (before clicking "All Programs") are the recently used apps, nothing fixed.

Is there a setting I could change to fix this?

As said, I have version 2.0, which was the most recent one when I downloaded a couple days ago. But I see people referring to 2.1. Is there a 2.1 available now.. Does this feature work better in 2.1?

Also, having just installed it yesterday, I am on the trial, not yet paid. Does that feature only work when the app is paid and acitivated?

Thanks in advance.



I just installed startisback 2.0 today, and it is cool.

One thing I am missing though, from the Win7 Start Menu.

In Win7, one could right-click on a program or shortcut (or folder, or anything really), and choose "Pin to Start Menu". Once one did that, one would see it in the first start menu that comes up on pressing the Start button, before clicking "All Programs".

Of course one would not want to put most programs there and get that first menu cluttered, but it is a convenient place to put a few programs or folders that one wants to access very easily, with one less mouse click than is involved in clicking "All Programs".

In Win8 (with startisback installed), one still sees the context menu choice "Pin to Start Menu". However, clicking on it does not put it on the first menu of startisback. (I assume it pins it to the Metro start screen, which I don't care about.)

Could you add a context menu item throughout Windows Explorer, perhaps entitled "Pin to Startisback Menu", that could pin items to that first menu one sees on pressing the Start button. (Or better yet, rather than adding another context menu choice, change the behavior of the current "Pin to Start Menu", so that it pins to the startisback menu rather than the Metro screen?) (As an option, of course.)

Is that possible? Or is there some way to set that now?

Thanks for the app.


When you select Pin to Start Menu it should pin it to the top of the left hand side of the start menu, exactly like Win7. Right above the most used apps. There have been reports of that not working and if I remember correctly they always fixed it with a reinstall of SiB.



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Doesn't work for me. As said, I see Pin to Start Menu in the Win Explorer context menu, but that doesn't add the item to the SIB menu. All I see in the first SIB menu (before clicking "All Programs") are the recently used apps, nothing fixed.

Is there a setting I could change to fix this?

As said, I have version 2.0, which was the most recent one when I downloaded a couple days ago. But I see people referring to 2.1. Is there a 2.1 available now.. Does this feature work better in 2.1?

Also, having just installed it yesterday, I am on the trial, not yet paid. Does that feature only work when the app is paid and acitivated?

Thanks in advance.

I think you should e-mail me and we discuss this problem privately; please provide screenshots.

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OK, maybe I'll do the screenshots tomorrow. (It is not on this same computer..)

Not sure why it should be private though, as others might have the same problem, and look for a solution in the forum.

What I see is pretty simple. When I press the Start button, the SIB menu comes out, showing recently used apps, etc. To see all my programs I click on "All Programs"..

However, when I right-click on a file in Windows Explorer, and choose "Pin to Start Menu" , they do not appear on the (SIB) start menu.

I am not sure what aspect of that you would like a screen shot of, and how it might help?

Thank you.



Doesn't work for me. As said, I see Pin to Start Menu in the Win Explorer context menu, but that doesn't add the item to the SIB menu. All I see in the first SIB menu (before clicking "All Programs") are the recently used apps, nothing fixed.

Is there a setting I could change to fix this?

As said, I have version 2.0, which was the most recent one when I downloaded a couple days ago. But I see people referring to 2.1. Is there a 2.1 available now.. Does this feature work better in 2.1?

Also, having just installed it yesterday, I am on the trial, not yet paid. Does that feature only work when the app is paid and acitivated?

Thanks in advance.

I think you should e-mail me and we discuss this problem privately; please provide screenshots.



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Tihiy after a few minutes searching in the net i found that Start8 by Stardock ver. 1.14 beta are designed to works for Windows 8 and support Blue, and i try and it's work now, but i prefer StartIsBack because is realy the original menu from windows 7 in the last 2.0.2 and 2.1 beta and i buy it a licence from you 5 month ago and i know that you are working in this system called for now Blue if you have a beta for this sistem let us know to begin test it to let you know how it's work. :thumbup

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As said, I have version 2.0, which was the most recent one when I downloaded a couple days ago. But I see people referring to 2.1. Is there a 2.1 available now.. Does this feature work better in 2.1?

Don't know why he didn't put it on the first post. I got version 2.1 from here:

http://www.msfn.org/...ost__p__1034237

I have no trouble pinning shortcuts and .exe files to Start Menu, and they always work fine. Maybe you should uninstall the old version before installing the new one.

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Tihiy after a few minutes searching in the net i found that Start8 by Stardock ver. 1.14 beta are designed to works for Windows 8 and support Blue, and i try and it's work now, but i prefer StartIsBack because is realy the original menu from windows 7 in the last 2.0.2 and 2.1 beta and i buy it a licence from you 5 month ago and i know that you are working in this system called for now Blue if you have a beta for this sistem let us know to begin test it to let you know how it's work. :thumbup


Yes. I tried start8 version 1.14.. hardly compares with SIB
I tried on my laptop startisback 2.1 RC0 W8 blue (sp) but not fully compatible.
I will try and see if my home PC is just like a laptop

Edited by stelian88, 30 March 2013 - 10:25 AM.


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People keep talking about Windows Blue. Is it also Windows 9?

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Thanks for the link to 2.1.

I very thoroughly uninstalled SIB 2.0. (Using Total Uninstall, first the supplied uninstaller, I had monitored the installation.

Then I installed 2.1

I do see one fixed item on the SIB menu now, at the top, above the recent items, a link to the Metro Start Screen.

However, when I right-click on another program or shortcut and choose "Pin to Start Menu", I still go to the SIB menu, and the pinned item is not there.

I even tried (SIB options) disabling the showing of recent items there, so then all I saw was that Start Screen. Tried pinning other items to the start menu again, and once more they did not show up in the SIB start menu.

Just checked the Metro Start Screen, and the items I pinned were pinned to the Metro Start Screen (although not to the SIB menu).

The computer is a Lenovo Thinkpad X230, running a clean fresh install (just a few days old) of Windows 8 Pro, all the recent updates.

I also noticed that the items I pinned to the Start Menu do appear in the second part of the SIB menu, the menu one sees after clicking "All Programs". I see also (in File Explorer) that shortcuts for the pinned items were added to the folder c:\users\"me"\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs. (The same place where the shortcuts for the "All Programs" menu is located. But they do not appear in the first main SIB Start Menu screen, where I see on the left only a link to the Metro Start Screen, and recent documents and apps. (In what folder are links pinned to the main screen kept?)

What might be going on? Any settings or registry changes to try?

In case it makes any difference, I have the Quick Launch toolbar enabled in the taskbar. (shouldn't make a difference, but just in case.....)

Thank you.



As said, I have version 2.0, which was the most recent one when I downloaded a couple days ago. But I see people referring to 2.1. Is there a 2.1 available now.. Does this feature work better in 2.1?

Don't know why he didn't put it on the first post. I got version 2.1 from here:

http://www.msfn.org/...ost__p__1034237

I have no trouble pinning shortcuts and .exe files to Start Menu, and they always work fine. Maybe you should uninstall the old version before installing the new one.


Edited by maikii, 30 March 2013 - 11:57 AM.


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People keep talking about Windows Blue. Is it also Windows 9?


No. blue is a Windows service pack for Windows 8 will be released this summer.but it is not known yet how this service pack will be called. likely that Windows 8 sp1 or something blue service pack Windows 8




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