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Start Is Back - 2.1 release best native start menu experience - now even better

#1041 User is offline   mara- 

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:23 PM

Since nobody has this issue except you, it must be something specific on your system that conflicts with Start Menu. Tihiy can't fix when he can't reproduce it.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 09:50 PM

View PostTihiy, on 06 December 2012 - 03:17 PM, said:

1.2.1 is up with fix for user frame, minor but annoying, sorry for updating often :blushing:

So far, so good - great job (nothing annoying about updates - we love those)!!! ;)


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Posted 07 December 2012 - 04:31 PM

View PostTihiy, on 05 December 2012 - 04:31 PM, said:

And here it is!
VERSION 1.2 RELEASE
http://www.startisba...sBack_setup.exe

Changes over 1.2RC2:

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- Fixed: hibernate shutdown option could fail to show in configurator
- Fixed: high contast themes start menu issues
- Fixed: popping combined start screen / button menu shifts cursor position
- New: Control Panel shortcut for Start menu configuration
- Updated AeroByDesign style
- Installing for all users no longer requires log off


Some rewriting i planned will go to 1.3 since it requires testing.


When uninstalling, does it still require logging the current user out? If so, a suggestion I have is maybe add a warning prior to the log off. When I uninstalled SiB (not b/c I didn't like it :angel ), I was a bit surprised when it logged me out.

This post has been edited by zoom8281: 07 December 2012 - 07:10 PM


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Posted 07 December 2012 - 04:37 PM

View PostStarto, on 06 December 2012 - 09:50 PM, said:

View PostTihiy, on 06 December 2012 - 03:17 PM, said:

1.2.1 is up with fix for user frame, minor but annoying, sorry for updating often :blushing:

So far, so good - great job (nothing annoying about updates - we love those)!!! ;)



Couldn't agree more :thumbup Thanks Tihiy

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 06:26 PM

Hot dog..
thanks..

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 01:57 AM

On a QuadCore i7, (x64-bit) all my Start Menu icons went missing - this is the first time, this has been observed:-


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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:01 AM

Does logging out and back in help?

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:09 AM

View PostKeeperos, on 08 December 2012 - 08:01 AM, said:

Does logging out and back in help?

Well, a simple restart of the Explorer brought normalcy back to the Start Menu - this has happened just once and is not reproducible. :)


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Posted 08 December 2012 - 05:37 PM

In my case, something really weird happens.
When installing or upgrading SiB, Java plugin does not work anymore in IE10 desktop mode.
It only happens in IE10, Java works fine in other browsers.
In IE10, on the bottom edge, a message shows: "A plugin for this site failed to load."

But two days later Java loads fine again and it's only until the next update of SiB when it fails again - just for one or two days.

Cheers.

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 11:46 PM

On Win8 X64-bit When doing a Silent Install of StartIsBack (either v.1.1 and 1.2) System Crashes to a blue Screen and locks down then I need to do a force restart..

Anyone else have this Issue or an Answer for this? :(




@echo off
title, [START IS BACK v1.2.1 - Silent Installer]
:: Windows(R),ProfessionalWMC edition x64

cd %~dp0 

:: Silent Install
StartIsBack_setup.exe /silent 

exit

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 11:08 AM

Hello, sorry for spam, this is not directly StartIsBack related, but someone could be interested in it.

Would somebody be interested in the development of the small utility which returns transparent titlebars in Win8? This is not regular Aero Glass but the utility (currently slow and buggy) which replaces windows titlebars with transparent images.

Attached File(s)


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Posted 09 December 2012 - 12:14 PM

View PostStarto, on 08 December 2012 - 01:57 AM, said:

On a QuadCore i7, (x64-bit) all my Start Menu icons went missing - this is the first time, this has been observed:-


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i also often have this problem
Right-clicking the start menu and clicking OK solves the problem

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 12:37 PM

Hi mosaji, :)

Do you also have so many programs listed on the white side of the pane (like mine)?


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Posted 09 December 2012 - 01:23 PM

View Postbigmuscle, on 09 December 2012 - 11:08 AM, said:

Would somebody be interested in the development of the small utility which returns transparent titlebars in Win8? This is not regular Aero Glass but the utility (currently slow and buggy) which replaces windows titlebars with transparent images.


you can start a new topic here in the Win8 section. Is it based on the old tool "TrueTransparency"?

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 03:00 PM

I will start it, just wanted to know whether someone is really interested in it... no it is not based on any tool, it is completely new (and very small) utility (let's say something like WindowBlinds but intended for window titles only).

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 06:25 PM

Hello,
First sorry for my bad english
I tested startisback and I find it very good.
However I have proposed improvements to make it perfect.
Before I try startisback i tried start8 and this tools allowed to open an application from Metro ui shortcut within the start menu.
Is this an update is possible with this improvement? it would be great
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Posted 09 December 2012 - 09:38 PM

View Postlerockstar, on 09 December 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

Hello,
First sorry for my bad english
I tested startisback and I find it very good.
However I have proposed improvements to make it perfect.
Before I try startisback i tried start8 and this tools allowed to open an application from Metro ui shortcut within the start menu.
Is this an update is possible with this improvement? it would be great
++

After a bit of searching I found this program to give you shortcuts for all the default apps for Windows 8 http://pasquiindustr...er-il-download/ it wont give you shortcuts for any of the new apps you install, to use these in the start menu you can just pin them after you make them or just add the new shortcuts to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs and they will appear at the top of the all programs list.

Edit: Sorry after a bit of testing I found out that most of the created shortcuts don't work, the only ones that worked were Store, Travel, Messaging and People, the developer also included a readme that explains about some of the other shortcuts having problems, looks like these shortcuts may also change after updates so they would need to be continually updated.

Edit: tested Start8 again and it does appear they found a way to launch all installed apps from the modern UI applications folder and they also allow you to pin those to their start menu, maybe Tihiy will find a way to do this with SiB but I don't think there is much advantage in doing it that way, at the moment with Sib it requires 2 clicks to open the modern application, middle click the start button and click on the app, where as with Start8 you have to open the start menu, open all programs, then open the modern applications folder then click on the application, I think it's best to keep the desktop start menu for desktop applications and keep the modern UI separate.

This post has been edited by MrGRiM: 09 December 2012 - 11:52 PM


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Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:48 AM

View PostStarto, on 09 December 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

Hi mosaji, :)

Do you also have so many programs listed on the white side of the pane (like mine)?


i have 11 programs

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:15 AM

Thanks for the response - only trying to figure out a connection between our configuration. ;)


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Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:33 AM

From what I have seen, Classic Shell adds all the standard "Metro" apps to their start menu in a separate list "Apps" and the desktop apps are under "Programs". Seems like an easy way to keep them separate yet easily available -- Open the start menu, click Apps, click the app you want. It worked for me today when I was cleaning up my neighbor's new laptop that came with Win 8 installed. It was the first time I've actually been forced to mess with Win 8 on actual hardware.

Cheers and Regards

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