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Start Is Back - 2.1 release best native start menu experience - now even better

#1061 User is offline   Max_04 

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:32 AM

Start Is Back broke the highlighting function when there is a new installed program.

Can you fix this in a next release? I need it.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:52 AM

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On Win8 X64-bit When doing a Silent Install of StartIsBack (either v.1.1 and 1.2) System Crashes to a blue Screen and locks down then I need to do a force restart..
Some driver is crashing due to explorer restarting. To work this around, add taskkill /F /IM explorer* to your script.

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Start Is Back broke the highlighting function when there is a new installed program.
Well, it never was working. It will be fixed or removed from new version.

This post has been edited by Tihiy: 10 December 2012 - 07:52 AM


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Posted 10 December 2012 - 11:22 AM

View PostTihiy, on 10 December 2012 - 07:52 AM, said:

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On Win8 X64-bit When doing a Silent Install of StartIsBack (either v.1.1 and 1.2) System Crashes to a blue Screen and locks down then I need to do a force restart..
Some driver is crashing due to explorer restarting. To work this around, add taskkill /F /IM explorer* to your script.


Tihiy, thanks for the suggestion but your only half right..If you kill the explorer process as you suggested
your program still Bsod's out. You Have to restart explorer.exe or else you just get stuck in a endless looping
Blue Screen. See my now Working script below which will also work in a sfx.exe package for integrating into Windows 8.

btw why did you delete my original post?

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:15 PM

Which BSOD is it? What does BlueScreenView say about the BSOD?

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:00 PM

Ehm. Is it (was it) BSOD or just blue screen without explorer loaded?

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:43 AM

View PostTihiy, on 10 December 2012 - 01:00 PM, said:

Ehm. Is it (was it) BSOD or just blue screen without explorer loaded?



Explorer.exe is not reloading back to the desktop so just blue screen no dumpfile
Only happens when using your silent switch, when you run normally installs and runs like it should.

Curious if anyone else has tried to do the silent install and had the same thing happen?
Tihiy, if you could use the /qn in future update that would make it totally silent as well instead of the basic auto-install
and seeing the install progress bar

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:57 AM

What's the status of licensing StartIsBack for use at work?

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:50 AM

View Postender`, on 11 December 2012 - 05:57 AM, said:

What's the status of licensing StartIsBack for use at work?

Unfortunately, it's not possible yet, but I hope it will be after 1.3.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 01:44 PM

View PostTihiy, on 05 December 2012 - 04:31 PM, said:

And here it is!
VERSION 1.2 RELEASE
http://www.startisba...sBack_setup.exe

Changes over 1.2RC2:

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- Fixed: hibernate shutdown option could fail to show in configurator
- Fixed: high contast themes start menu issues
- Fixed: popping combined start screen / button menu shifts cursor position
- New: Control Panel shortcut for Start menu configuration
- Updated AeroByDesign style
- Installing for all users no longer requires log off


Attached File  C apture.PNG (41.4K)
Number of downloads: 7

Thanks so much @Tihiy, all works as charm in this release. AeroByDesign is awesome and now it's my favorite skin.

Although not new in this release, it's still worth to note another great feature: the shutdown button shows the yellow update mark once system updates are ready.

Control Panel shortcut is cool too.

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View Postbigmuscle, on 09 December 2012 - 11:08 AM, said:

Hello, sorry for spam, this is not directly StartIsBack related, but someone could be interested in it.

Would somebody be interested in the development of the small utility which returns transparent titlebars in Win8? This is not regular Aero Glass but the utility (currently slow and buggy) which replaces windows titlebars with transparent images.


Interesting, but IMHO transparent borders without Aero Blur are not as good as solid. What I truly want added to Windows 8 is Flip3D as in Windows 7.

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View PostDosProbie, on 11 December 2012 - 04:43 AM, said:

Explorer.exe is not reloading back to the desktop so just blue screen no dumpfile
Only happens when using your silent switch, when you run normally installs and runs like it should.

Curious if anyone else has tried to do the silent install and had the same thing happen?
Tihiy, if you could use the /qn in future update that would make it totally silent as well instead of the basic auto-install
and seeing the install progress bar


I'm reluctant to try the silent method, but still might that be some driver bugging out, what does your bsod error say?

Every blue screen creates crash report in X:\Windows\Minidump, so a .dmp has to be there, of course if you haven't changed your system default setting.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:25 PM

I have brought 5 licenses now, I just hope is no issues me reinstalling VM's chewing up my activations.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:16 PM

Version 1.3 Release Candidate 0
http://www.startisba...ack_setupRC.exe

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- Prevented rogue programs from moving orb
- Fixed severe MFU / pinned program list performance and refresh issues
- Newly installed programs are highlighted


1.3 will likely contain no new major features but important fixes.
In 1.3RC0 start menu refresh logic was improved and involves much less I/O which should fix performance problems and icon missing situations.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:32 PM

I noticed a small problem: my taskbar is set to auto-hide. If I view an image full-screen in IrfanView (Enter on keyboard), and press the Windows key, the taskbar doesn't appear, while the Start orb sometimes does (over the image), and sometimes doesn't. Start Menu always opens, but again, sometimes it appears in it's normal place (above where the taskbar should be), and sometimes it appears right at the bottom of the screen. Happens with both 1.2 and 1.3rc0.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 04:05 PM

I see another issue - clicking on start orb acts weird now - sometimes menu opens, sometimes it does not, sometimes it just flashes... For now, just posting to see if someone else sees it.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 04:30 PM

View PostTihiy, on 12 December 2012 - 03:16 PM, said:

Version 1.3 Release Candidate 0
http://www.startisba...ack_setupRC.exe

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- Prevented rogue programs from moving orb
- Fixed severe MFU / pinned program list performance and refresh issues
- Newly installed programs are highlighted


1.3 will likely contain no new major features but important fixes.
In 1.3RC0 start menu refresh logic was improved and involves much less I/O which should fix performance problems and icon missing situations.


I suggest adding either a reboot prompt or warning box.

When I updated from previous pre release RC to 1.2.1 so I could activate, all my pinned items were gone and "pin to start menu" was gone in menus, I assumed I just needed a reboot and I was right, all ok again after the reboot, but the app upgrade installer didn't tell me that.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:02 PM

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Prevented rogue programs from moving orb


what's this meaning?

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 01:10 AM

View Postitoy, on 12 December 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:

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Prevented rogue programs from moving orb


what's this meaning?

Rogue programs? It means malicious programs, bad-intentioned apps, malware.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 01:10 AM

View Postitoy, on 12 December 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:

what's this meaning?

geneticplasma's jumping orb issue.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 05:54 AM

Hey Tihiy,
please keep on with this great job!
Some notes about 1.3RC:
- I can't remove highlited items from recent programs list. Not highlighted items work ok.
- Sometimes I get a crash when closing StartIsBack configurator. I still can't reproduce it whenever I want to.
Please check attached screenshot with some info about the crash.

Filippo

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 08:32 AM

@butos

Is that Aero you have? How?

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 08:40 AM

No, no Aero for me, just small padding for borders and same background color as wallpaper :)

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