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Start Is Back - 2.1 release best native start menu experience - now even better

#1221 User is offline   aranel42 

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 04:09 AM

First of all, many thanks for the program! I'm still using the trail version and evaluating it, but it's fantastic so far! No more friggin tablet interface on a PC...

Now for a small feature request (if it is possible to pull it off): I've been using Start8 as well, and the only that's better there right now is that it allows you to add shortcuts to custom folder on the right side of the start menu (where Documents, Pictures, etc. resides). Is that possible to add something similar to StartIsBack?
And for something pretty trivial. Would it be possible to bundle a Windows 8 style start button together with the program, mainly to tie it together "better" with Win8?
Neither is a big deal, but they would be a nice features.

And again, thanks for the program!


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Posted 10 January 2013 - 02:19 PM

Bug in SIB 1.3.1 (maybe earlier, too)

Sometimes Icons moved - can't reproduce it.

Solution: Change Design

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#1223 User is offline   kong 

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:54 PM

^^^
Yeah I got that from time to time... but as far as I remember, this doesn't happen with 1.3-rc1 :ph34r:

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:35 PM

^^ and that's finally fixed
VERSION 1.3.2
http://www.startisba...sBack_setup.exe

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Fix: new program highlighting errorneusly fired for new users and roaming profiles
Fix: orb unhides when hidden taskbar is shown (IrfanView)
Fix: icons could fail to show in program list


Next version is under heavy development.

This post has been edited by Tihiy: 11 January 2013 - 04:52 PM


#1225 User is offline   MagicAndre1981 

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:14 AM

thanks for the new version, but I gave it up. It looks like you don't want to fix the elevated explorer issue

Attached File  Win8_explorer.png (19.44K)
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So I always have to do the Logoff after upgrade.

#1226 User is offline   Tihiy 

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:01 AM

View PostMagicAndre1981, on 12 January 2013 - 01:14 AM, said:

thanks for the new version, but I gave it up. It looks like you don't want to fix the elevated explorer issue
Well, you're the only one having this issue, no? Because it can start explorer elevated only if you run StartIsBack_setup.exe elevated.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:33 AM

I think other have it, too but they don't know that they have it because they don't run any apps. I need to run it as admin to install it for all suers to C:\Program Files.

Can you use DuplicateTokenEx to get the old Explorer token, store it and start the Shell again with this token (CreateProcessWithTokenW)? I don't know how you run the Shell again.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:50 AM

Installer runs with normal privileges. When you install for all users, it starts itself elevated. After elevated copy is finished installing, original unelevated process restarts explorer.
So you can't get explorer elevated unless you run installer elevated at the first place.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 03:01 AM

View PostTihiy, on 12 January 2013 - 02:50 AM, said:

Installer runs with normal privileges. When you install for all users, it starts itself elevated.


ok, this explains it. To avoid this second restart I've always started the setup elevated. :whistle:

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 03:50 PM

View PostTihiy, on 11 January 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

^^ and that's finally fixed
VERSION 1.3.2
http://www.startisba...sBack_setup.exe

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Fix: new program highlighting errorneusly fired for new users and roaming profiles
Fix: orb unhides when hidden taskbar is shown (IrfanView)
Fix: icons could fail to show in program list


Next version is under heavy development.


Heavy Development? What have you in mind? Automatic Coffee dispenser? mmmh
But really, its great at present.. If you hadnt come along , i would have flashed W7 back again.
I still detest W8

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:35 PM

View PostUTC, on 12 January 2013 - 03:50 PM, said:

View PostTihiy, on 11 January 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

^^ and that's finally fixed
VERSION 1.3.2
http://www.startisba...sBack_setup.exe

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Fix: new program highlighting errorneusly fired for new users and roaming profiles
Fix: orb unhides when hidden taskbar is shown (IrfanView)
Fix: icons could fail to show in program list


Next version is under heavy development.


Heavy Development? What have you in mind? Automatic Coffee dispenser? mmmh


I think having a "Modern UI applications" folder in start menu would be great imho, for example like Start8. :yes:

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 11:49 PM

What's the chance we can get a Windows RT (arm) version of this compiled (for jailbroken machines?)

If you need some assistance, I'm sure I can help.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 02:05 AM

View Postgserack, on 13 January 2013 - 11:49 PM, said:

What's the chance we can get a Windows RT (arm) version of this compiled (for jailbroken machines?)
I would be interested to make this version, but for now thethered jailbreak nature and lack of option to run Windows RT in virtual machine limits my options. Let's move discussion to the PM.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 03:12 AM

View PostTihiy, on 11 January 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

^^ and that's finally fixed

Yeah been using 1.3.2 for a while and it looks like it's really fixed. Thanks @Tihiy :thumbup

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:18 PM

SIB simply the best :wub: love it much.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 07:52 AM

Tihiy,

Congratulations, you win in a good review of 5 Start Menu replacers.

Links in another MSFN thread. Look here.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 03:25 PM

Hi everyone, love SIB. Best start menu replacement I have used so far.

My questions is how is it set to autorun? I know it is just a .dll that explorer.exe loads, but where in the registry is it set to load automatically? Just curious as Sysinternals Autoruns does not detect it.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 04:24 PM

It's probably loaded as a shell extension.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 04:52 PM

Yeah probably but typically Autoruns can detect those. It detects other shell extensions.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:47 PM

StartIsBack replaces two system shell classes in SOFTWARE\CLASSES branch.

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