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Start Is Back - 2.1 release best native start menu experience - now even better

#1281 User is offline   roirraW "edor" ehT 

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 08:51 AM

Maybe we can narrow down the cause by finding out if all those who experience this issue have the same hard drive controller or brand in their motherboard(s). Is yours VIA, Intel, nVidia, ATI, ...? If you don't know and don't know how to find out just give your exact make and model of motherboard or PC if it's a pre-built system and we can find out from there.


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 08:57 AM

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:54 AM

View PostAmigafever, on 20 January 2013 - 08:57 AM, said:



Okay, so it looks like on yours it's:

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JMicron® JMB363 PATA and SATA controller


Anyone else? How about you, Naito?

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 03:02 PM

I noticed something unusual recently: I press the Windows key, type power and then press Ctr+Shift+Enter (to run PowerShell as Administrator), but instead of PowerShell, Paint Shop Pro starts (even though PowerShell icon was selected, and Paint Shop Pro wasn't even on the list of results. If I then press the Windows key again and type something to search, the taskbar and Start Menu freeze, and I have to kill and restart explorer.exe.

Edit: actually, after that happens, doing anything with the Start Menu will freeze it and the taskbar. Also, it appears that typing anything and pressing Ctrl+Shift+Enter triggers the problem (and it's always PSP trying to start up in debug mode, regardless of what I type)

Using StartIsBack 1.3.3 on Windows 8 Pro x64.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 03:53 PM

I couldn't reproduce that initially. I even already had the latest version of Paint Shop Pro installed already, too. I pressed Control-Shift-Enter over PowerShell and it indeed gives me the UAC prompt to open it raised, and it does open. However, now when I do it, I get the attached screenshot. After I press "Cancel", then a UAC prompt for PowerShell opens. Everything behaves normally from then on other than the PSP debugging prompt each time I do the same thing after that. BTW, while the PSP Debug prompt is open, things behave sluggishly or seem to freeze until I Cancel that prompt.

Running v1.3.3 under Windows 8 Enterprise x64 at the moment.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 04:55 PM

Is it possible for you to bring back Aero Glass feature just like on Windows 7 in future versions of StartIsBack? I know it's a Start Menu related application, however you maybe can work on another Windows 7-like Program called AeroGlassIsBack for example.

I gladly bought this StartIsBack software when it still was on 1.0 cause after I've installed I just realised how awesome and better than all the other "fake Windows 7 like" start menus i've tested, so I bought it right away, and It keeps getting better.

So why not ask for this? Since you made the best and only Windows 7-truly like Start Menu for Windows 8

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 06:17 PM

Yeah, that's the exact dialog I get. Things don't freeze while it's open, only afterwards.

For me nothing happens when I click either of the buttons - the elevated program never opens (I don't get the UAC prompt because I've got it set to elevate silently).

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:43 PM

View PostroirraW"edor" ehT, on 20 January 2013 - 03:53 PM, said:

I couldn't reproduce that initially. I even already had the latest version of Paint Shop Pro installed already, too. I pressed Control-Shift-Enter over PowerShell and it indeed gives me the UAC prompt to open it raised, and it does open. However, now when I do it, I get the attached screenshot. After I press "Cancel", then a UAC prompt for PowerShell opens. Everything behaves normally from then on other than the PSP debugging prompt each time I do the same thing after that. BTW, while the PSP Debug prompt is open, things behave sluggishly or seem to freeze until I Cancel that prompt.

Running v1.3.3 under Windows 8 Enterprise x64 at the moment.


I'm not sure if you guys had Windows 7 or not but if you do the same thing on Windows 7 Explorer crashes, so maybe this is an inherent problem from Windows 7.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 03:33 AM

This is a bug in PaintShop Pro shell extension which manifests on Windows 7 as well.
To fix this, delete [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shellex\ContextMenuHandlers\Corel PaintShop Pro X5]

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:33 AM

Thanks for posting the solution so fast! I figured it was PSP's fault.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:40 AM

Thanks. I haven't seen this in Windows 7, so I assumed it had something to do with StartIsBack.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:25 PM

Hi Tihiy,

The hybrid boot feature in Windows 8 makes it impossible to hit F8 following POST to enter the Advanced Boot Options, so the only way to do so without a System Repair Disk is to restart the PC from the Charms menu while holding down the shift key.

I believe you are using the shutdown /r command to initiate a system restart on StartIsBack.
Would you be able to have it issue shutdown /r /o /t 00 when the Shift key is held down prior to clicking on Restart?

Thanks!

By the way, I had purchased a couple 5-PC licenses, but would like to donate some money towards your continued development and support for StartIsBack! Could you please PM me an email address for me to do so?
I guess I can just buy more licenses, but that means more licenses and activations to keep track of.

Cheers,
Thomas

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:44 PM

Hi Tihiy, happy user of SiB here ;)

I've a little question, but I dunno if u can satisfy me:


I miss one feature of windows 7 explorer...the possibility to see a preview of an image or the detail pane) if "clicked" one time, in the bottom of the windows...in w8 we can only see the preview if we enable the big (and ugly) panel from the top bar, that go on the side of the window...I dont know if your older project that replaced win8 explorer with the one from 7 works to fix this issue, but I dont really want to use it now that I've SiB...its possible to add this option in SiB too?

Hope my request was enough clear to understand...

ps.: many guys tryed to resolve this "issue" modding shell32 (this is one, just for reference: http://spyrow.devian...ottom-336379870), but for me, nothing works...I had to made a backup copy cuz my windows 8 was screwed after replace the file... hope tihiy can do a better job ;)

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:10 PM

registered for this. using the start hotkey doesnt allow for quick swapping back and forth between metro and desktop. once the hotkey is pressed, focus is lost; needing a click anywhere before i can use the hotkey again. its a small nuisance. sorry if this was already brought up and/or resolved.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:06 PM

Ha!

http://www.displayfu.../Download/Beta/

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DisplayFusion Beta Change Log
v5.0.0 (Beta 8) ~ Coming Soon!

Change: Start8 support has been removed (too buggy)


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:09 PM

View PostroirraW"edor" ehT, on 24 January 2013 - 01:06 PM, said:

Ha!

http://www.displayfu.../Download/Beta/

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DisplayFusion Beta Change Log
v5.0.0 (Beta 8) ~ Coming Soon!

Change: Start8 support has been removed (too buggy)


Bwahahahahaha!!!!

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:14 PM

And WOOT!

http://www.displayfu.../Download/Beta/

DisplayFusion Beta Change Log
v5.0.0 (Beta 8) ~ Coming Soon!

Change: StartIsBack support has been added (alternate Start Menu)
Change: Start8 support has been removed (too buggy)
Change: Added an Advanced Setting to remove the hot-corner gap in Windows 8 on the DisplayFusion taskbar
Change: Taskbar Jump Lists can now be navigated using the keyboard
Fix: Clover 2 is now treated correctly as a top-tabs application
Fix: Screen Savers now allowed "preview mode" to be unchecked when spanned
Fix: Taskbar compatibility improvements
Fix: TitleBar Button compatibility improvements
Fix: Classic Shell compatibility improvements

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:35 PM

View PostroirraW"edor" ehT, on 25 January 2013 - 05:14 PM, said:

And WOOT!

DisplayFusion Beta Change Log
v5.0.0 (Beta 8) ~ Coming Soon!

What is it exactly?

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:41 PM

View PostISOHaven, on 25 January 2013 - 07:35 PM, said:

View PostroirraW"edor" ehT, on 25 January 2013 - 05:14 PM, said:

And WOOT!

DisplayFusion Beta Change Log
v5.0.0 (Beta 8) ~ Coming Soon!

What is it exactly?


Change: StartIsBack support has been added (alternate Start Menu)

Is that what you meant?

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:01 PM

View PostroirraW"edor" ehT, on 25 January 2013 - 07:41 PM, said:

View PostISOHaven, on 25 January 2013 - 07:35 PM, said:

View PostroirraW"edor" ehT, on 25 January 2013 - 05:14 PM, said:

And WOOT!

DisplayFusion Beta Change Log
v5.0.0 (Beta 8) ~ Coming Soon!

What is it exactly?


Change: StartIsBack support has been added (alternate Start Menu)

Is that what you meant?

I meant, what is the product? What is that program that's in beta?

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