[roirraW "edor" ehT]

The only suggestion I have is that some other program may be interfering somehow.

[Tihiy]

Y A Y B E T A T E S T I N G
StartIsBack 2.0 beta 0

Ladies and gentleman, please welcome StartIsBack 2.0 beta 0. Please keep in mind this is early beta. This version is not indended for everyday use and represents early 2.0 stage.



What's new:

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- Modern Apps (Start Apps) are included into MFU, search and all programs list
- Shortcut to Start Screen in Start Menu
- All programs multi-column flyout (Windows XP style)
- Closing Modern App returns you to desktop or start screen, whichever was used last (not configurable now)

More in the release notes.
http://startisback.c...ack_20beta0.zip

Don't flame the discussion too hard.

This post has been edited by Tihiy: 07 February 2013 - 08:28 AM

[ISOHaven]

For some reason, on some machines, the configuration keep popping up when the user logs in. Just started happening recently. Can't figure out why. Where can I look to see what would be causing it?

EDIT:
Awesome news on 2.0! I'll check it out soon.

This post has been edited by ISOHaven: 29 January 2013 - 04:41 PM

[roirraW "edor" ehT]

Congratulations on beta 0 of v2.0!!!

[syobon999]

Can I use this beta version indefinitely (no trial) ?

[Tihiy]

syobon999, on 30 January 2013 - 03:18 AM, said:

Can I use this beta version indefinitely (no trial) ?

Nope.

[MrGRiM]

Very nice update mate, everything seems to be working well for me so far.

[ender`]

2.0 seems to work fine for me, except that it's reminding me in the settings that a new version is available.

Anyway, is there any chance to fix the colours of the Shut down and Control Panel submenus in high contrast mode?

Also, if you wish, you're free to include the orb images I made.

[MagicAndre1981]

Tihiy, on 29 January 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

What's new:

Quote

- All programs multi-column flyout (Windows XP style)
- Closing Modern App returns you to desktop or start screen, whichever was used last (not configurable now)

the second change is nice, but the first one is not good. Is this the new default way or can I still use the Vista/7 style?

[Tihiy]

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Anyway, is there any chance to fix the colours of the Shut down and Control Panel submenus in high contrast mode?

Yes, it will be fixed before 2.0 release. You can check how All Programs flyout (XP style) displays with high contrast mode.
Thanks for orb images, they're great!

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the second change is nice, but the first one is not good. Is this the new default way or can I still use the Vista/7 style?

Beta testing is not for faint-hearted. Of course it's not default.

This post has been edited by Tihiy: 30 January 2013 - 02:21 PM

[higH1]

You beat me to it... Going to beta test

A new problem:
Bitdefender Antivirus Free Edition has blocked a page!
Malware detected! Access to this page has been blocked.

Should I report this to BitDefender crew?

Another - if I install with AV disabled,
C:\Program Files (x86)\StartIsBack\StartScreen.exe is removed as threat as soon as AV is enabled.

This post has been edited by higH1: 30 January 2013 - 05:09 PM

[syobon999]

I just bought your software...

[ender`]

Tihiy, on 30 January 2013 - 02:21 PM, said:

Yes, it will be fixed before 2.0 release. You can check how All Programs flyout (XP style) displays with high contrast mode.

I noticed, which is why I asked (again).

This post has been edited by ender`: 30 January 2013 - 04:27 PM

[Tihiy]

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I just bought your software...

Thank you

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C:\Program Files (x86)\StartIsBack\StartScreen.exe is removed as threat as soon as AV is enabled.

Gen:Variant.Kazy? What the insane stuff again. It's clear, of course. I'll resolve this issue in next version.

This post has been edited by Tihiy: 30 January 2013 - 11:59 PM

[ender`]

Depending on how many users you have, a possible solution is to put a red warning "Antivirus XYZ wrongly detects StartIsBack as a virus. It's recommended to switch to a better AV product", then watch how fast the AV vendor fixes the problem.

[Starto]

MagicAndre1981, on 30 January 2013 - 01:55 PM, said:

Tihiy, on 29 January 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

What's new:

Quote

- All programs multi-column flyout (Windows XP style)
- Closing Modern App returns you to desktop or start screen, whichever was used last (not configurable now)

the second change is nice, but the first one is not good. Is this the new default way or can I still use the Vista/7 style?

Yes, the option to continue using the default Windows 7/Vista style is present under the 'Appearance' tab.

[Tihiy]

ender`, on 31 January 2013 - 01:43 AM, said:

Depending on how many users you have, a possible solution is to put a red warning "Antivirus XYZ wrongly detects StartIsBack as a virus. It's recommended to switch to a better AV product", then watch how fast the AV vendor fixes the problem.

Well, giving more problems to user is a bad option. Although I don't understand yet why startscreen.exe is flagged, it's totally one-line app without encryption / network / whatever algorithms. Maybe because it uses DeleteFile API call, lol.

Edit: it flags startscreen.exe malware because of icons in it. That's rude discrimination.

This post has been edited by Tihiy: 31 January 2013 - 02:22 AM

[dencorso]

Some seemingly innocent things like the "/MERGE:.rdata=.text" (esp. when combined with upx compression) do optimization trigger many heuristic engines.
Those engines seem to work by the famous "kill them all and let God sort them out afterwards" principle...

[MitsuMan]

Hallo

I have a question.

The program works very good.

I would like to install it to a offline Image is that possbile or silent install with setupcomplete.cmd in windows 8.

I have tro to use this i setupcomplete.

Start /wait setup.exe /silent

That works fine in windows 8 but when i try with setupcomplete.cmd it dont get install i think it need to load the desktop before you can install it silent
is that a way to load desktop with setupcomplete.cmd and the install the startisback.

[ender`]

Tihiy, on 31 January 2013 - 01:56 AM, said:

Well, giving more problems to user is a bad option. Although I don't understand yet why startscreen.exe is flagged, it's totally one-line app without encryption / network / whatever algorithms. Maybe because it uses DeleteFile API call, lol.

It's probably some random signature that matches - I've had several AV programs flag a certain GIMP plugin as malware for a while.