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Start Is Back - 2.1 release best native start menu experience - now even better

#1381 User is offline   zuardin 

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:47 PM

anyone was make autoit script for this starisback? please upload your scripts,,thanks :)


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Posted 09 February 2013 - 02:26 AM

Is a changelog for v2.0 Beta 1 available?


Thanks for the awesome product,
George.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 03:02 AM

View PostGeorgeHahn, on 09 February 2013 - 02:26 AM, said:

Is a changelog for v2.0 Beta 1 available?
Published full changelog for 2.0beta1 in the second post.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 02:32 PM

The language-packs seem to be not working in settings in v2.0 Beta 1. Is that by design?
Win8 32-bit Enterprise Ru, All-users installation, registered.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 03:33 PM

View Postvit9696, on 09 February 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

The language-packs seem to be not working in settings in v2.0 Beta 1. Is that by design?
Yes, translation is turned off in settings by design, to not confuse users with half-translated UI.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 06:11 AM

It's funny to notice that StartIsBack 2.0 new features quickly became Start8 requested features:
When I close modern app - Return to last used Environment
Windows XP style All Programs menu
But we know that 2.0 Beta 0 had them first :rolleyes:

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:13 AM

Apologies is this has been covered already - I did search but couldn't spot it...

Do I need to uninstall StartisBack in order to test the V2 Beta or is it possible to temporarily disable each one so I can try both side-by-side, as it were?

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:38 AM

View Postpengipete, on 10 February 2013 - 08:13 AM, said:

Do I need to uninstall StartisBack in order to test the V2 Beta or is it possible to temporarily disable each one so I can try both side-by-side, as it were?
You don't need to reinstall when upgrading StartIsBack. If you want to downgrade 2.0 to 1.3.3, you should uninstall 2.0 first. It's not possible to run both side-by-side.

This post has been edited by Tihiy: 10 February 2013 - 08:39 AM


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:06 PM

Thanks Tihiy.

I've been trying 1.3 for the past few days having previously tried Classic Shell and Stardock's start menues for about a week each. Have to say that unles anything seriously odd turns up out of the blue, StartisBack is bar far the best of the bunch. It's smooth - genuinely feels like a part of Windows rather than an add-on and what it does, it does perfectly. Classic Shell is a let down because it inflicts the full pop-out menus - no option to have them replace in situ on the "programs" menu. Start8 does that but the "boot to desktop" feature is clunky and it doesn't handle "pinning" correctly. StartIsBack is the most complete recreation of the original start menu and what extras it adds on top of that are well thought out rather than just bunging in new features for the sake of it. The control it offers over Metro is excellent - that's now almost useable for a "desktop jockey" like me.

Having now installed the V2 beta and played around with that for a few hours - I'm surprised at how complete it feels already. I understand that it is not fully finished but it's actually difficult to see what more is required - it's already stable, looks great and the new features are simple and self-explanatory.

One stand-out feature amongst so many good ones - the simple idea of bunging the "Win+X" menu on the start button's right-click is brilliant - I wouldn't have even thought of that but it's exactly the right thing to do.

I'll give it a few more days with 1.3 - just to be as fair as possible in the comparisons - but I suspect I'll be registering my copy :)

Thank you.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:08 PM

I have a feature request I'd like to make; It would be nice to have the option of a dynamically expandable "all programs" list, like this:
http://www.askvg.com...comment-page-7/

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:17 PM

View PostAaaaa, on 10 February 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

I have a feature request I'd like to make; It would be nice to have the option of a dynamically expandable "all programs" list, like this:
http://www.askvg.com...comment-page-7/
But 2.0 already has the 'All Programs' expandable flyout menu.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 03:12 PM

View Postzuardin, on 07 February 2013 - 08:47 PM, said:

anyone was make autoit script for this starisback? please upload your scripts,,thanks :)


I have pack it with winrar and make it as exe.

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;The comment below contains SFX script commands

Setup=install.bat
TempMode
Silent=1
Overwrite=1


And my install.bat looks like this

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cmdow @ /HID
cls
@echo off
start /wait Startisback.exe /silent
shutdown -r -t 0


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 04:32 PM

i have a request....i know that is something maybe off the actual program but...

can you provide a option to make Metro programs be in a window instead of fullscreen? RetroUI have done it, maybe you could to?

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 04:40 PM

View PostSpike, on 10 February 2013 - 04:32 PM, said:

i have a request....i know that is something maybe off the actual program but...

can you provide a option to make Metro programs be in a window instead of fullscreen? RetroUI have done it, maybe you could to?

That would be cool!

#1395 User is offline   Tihiy 

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 04:53 PM

View PostSpike, on 10 February 2013 - 04:32 PM, said:

can you provide a option to make Metro programs be in a window instead of fullscreen? RetroUI have done it, maybe you could to?

2.0 alphas could do it, but there's too much work to make this work decent. RetroUI does not do it even half-decently. Maybe SIB 3.0 could do it. :rolleyes:

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 05:12 PM

View PostMitsuMan, on 10 February 2013 - 03:12 PM, said:

View Postzuardin, on 07 February 2013 - 08:47 PM, said:

anyone was make autoit script for this starisback? please upload your scripts,,thanks :)


I have pack it with winrar and make it as exe.

Quote

;The comment below contains SFX script commands

Setup=install.bat
TempMode
Silent=1
Overwrite=1


And my install.bat looks like this

Quote

cmdow @ /HID
cls
@echo off
start /wait Startisback.exe /silent
shutdown -r -t 0



thanks my friend,but "/silent" switch only for one user installation,,i need install for all user on my computer,,any command switch for this? thanks. :)

This post has been edited by zuardin: 10 February 2013 - 05:13 PM


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 05:58 PM

Just had to boot into Safe Mode - nothing related to SIB, I should emphasise - and was suprised to see that SIB was working.

Just on the off-chance that SIB should go doolally at some point, it might be best if it was not enabled in Safe Mode otherwise there's the possibility of an incurable problem. Failing that, a way to boot with SIB deactivated - such as booting with a certain key held down - might be a wise precaution.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 03:38 AM

Hey Tihiy, did you receive my email I sent three days ago? :whistle:

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 04:30 AM

View PostMax_04, on 12 February 2013 - 03:38 AM, said:

Hey Tihiy, did you receive my email I sent three days ago? :whistle:
Seems that I didn't.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 08:49 AM

View PostTihiy, on 10 February 2013 - 06:11 AM, said:

It's funny to notice that StartIsBack 2.0 new features quickly became Start8 requested features:
When I close modern app - Return to last used Environment
Windows XP style All Programs menu
But we know that 2.0 Beta 0 had them first :rolleyes:

It's also funny to notice that someone is paying attention to the Start8 forum. :whistle:

Ribbing aside, from what I read and see, StartisBack is certainly moving along fast and furious in its development, adding features and bug squashing. I like. :thumbup

regards,
Laurence

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