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Start Is Back - 2.1 release best native start menu experience - now even better

#1421 User is offline   boogerlad 

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 02:26 PM

Hi Tihiy, I've sent you a pm some time ago. If you aren't too busy, can you please respond?


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Posted 19 February 2013 - 05:04 PM

View Postboogerlad, on 19 February 2013 - 02:26 PM, said:

Hi Tihiy, I've sent you a pm some time ago. If you aren't too busy, can you please respond?
Didn't receive PMs from you.

#1423 User is offline   Tihiy 

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 05:16 PM

Version 2.0 Release Candidate
http://www.startisba...ack_setupRC.exe
NOTE: if you update from 2.0 beta, Start Apps pinned to Start menu will turn into pumpkin dummy shortcuts. You have to un-pin and pin them again. Do not downgrade to 2.0 beta.
This release is (should be) awesome. New skin and orb are the results of hard work of PainteR. Appearance screen got pretty makeover.

New:
- New Skin
- New Start Orb
- Revamped Appearance config screen
- Alternate start menu skins and high contrast themes use different flyout menu style
- Option to disable taskbar translucency works for secondary taskbars
- Option to disable StartIsBack for current user
- Option to hide Start button
- Some useful Windows settings in Advanced section
- StartIsBack is disabled in Safe Mode
Fixes:
- Start Apps folder slowing down All Programs
- Start Apps folder not refreshing after app install / remove
- Start Apps folder not displaying icons in high DPI
- Start Apps folder not displaying some apps
- Incorrect orb hover animation alpha-blending

P.S. Translators will receive translation text later.
This release is functionally complete; Some improvements under the hood are planned for 2.0 release.

This post has been edited by Tihiy: 19 February 2013 - 06:02 PM


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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:35 PM

Very good job!!

One small problem:
So I opened the start menu had pinned a program called Start Apps, but after the installation of 2RC no longer have ... As I return to the Start Apps on there?

Thank you.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:41 PM

Looking good. No problems right off the bat. I'll play with it more tomorrow.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:43 PM

View Postgsilvap, on 19 February 2013 - 07:35 PM, said:

Very good job!!

One small problem:
So I opened the start menu had pinned a program called Start Apps, but after the installation of 2RC no longer have ... As I return to the Start Apps on there?

Thank you.


I have unistall and reinstall and it solve the problem!!!

Continue the good work!!!

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:12 PM

Hi Tihiy,

In Version 2.0 Release Candidate of StartisBack, one of the new additions you mention is: "StartIsBack is disabled in Safe Mode"

When Windows is in Safe Mode I understand why it may be a good thing to have it be automatically disabled, but still. . . can it be 'manually started' by the user if so desired? A little bit of ease and familiarity while moving around to seek a cure for what ails the PC can be a real help.

regards,
Laurence

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:21 PM

Nice improvements. But the preview of the startmenu is limited to 4 themes. If you have more installed, you can see them in the preview.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:32 AM

View PostLaurence, on 19 February 2013 - 11:12 PM, said:

Hi Tihiy,

In Version 2.0 Release Candidate of StartisBack, one of the new additions you mention is: "StartIsBack is disabled in Safe Mode"

When Windows is in Safe Mode I understand why it may be a good thing to have it be automatically disabled, but still. . . can it be 'manually started' by the user if so desired? A little bit of ease and familiarity while moving around to seek a cure for what ails the PC can be a real help.

regards,
Laurence


+1 I agree that should be an option, initially you may want any 3rd party code disabled, but also the familiarity when troubleshooting is also something that can really help...

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:37 AM

View PostLaurence, on 19 February 2013 - 11:12 PM, said:

When Windows is in Safe Mode I understand why it may be a good thing to have it be automatically disabled, but still. . . can it be 'manually started' by the user if so desired? A little bit of ease and familiarity while moving around to seek a cure for what ails the PC can be a real help.
There will be a way to enable SIB in Safe Mode.

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Nice improvements. But the preview of the startmenu is limited to 4 themes. If you have more installed, you can see them in the preview.
That's intended so far but will be fixed.

This post has been edited by Tihiy: 20 February 2013 - 04:17 AM


#1431 User is offline   ender` 

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:08 AM

There's a weird problem with themes in high contrast mode: if "Disable Start Menu transparency" is enabled, Start Menu goes fully transparent in the non-default themes.

Also, could you include my orb images in the installer, too?

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:59 AM

View Postender`, on 20 February 2013 - 02:08 AM, said:

Also, could you include my orb images in the installer, too?
I'm not sure, the color of the flag does not fit for many taskbar/window colors.

This post has been edited by Tihiy: 20 February 2013 - 05:06 AM


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:31 AM

Indonesian translation: Done ! :)

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:29 AM

View PostTihiy, on 20 February 2013 - 01:37 AM, said:

That's intended so far but will be fixed.


ok, thanks :)

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:59 AM

View PostTihiy, on 20 February 2013 - 04:59 AM, said:

I'm not sure, the color of the flag does not fit for many taskbar/window colors.
I took the colour from the charms bar (though that one does have black background, regardless of theme). Still, I think it looks fine with most themes.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:26 PM

I noticed a small cosmetic problem while translating: on the Advanced page, the "px" label is covered by the scrollbar (at least in 120DPI mode).

Also, the section labels (eg. "Configure Start menu items and behavior") are always dark blue, even in high contrast themes (makes them hard to see with black background).

Two more translation-related questions:
- is it possible to translate the control panel icon name?
- previous translation versions had some strings for the DLL, but these are missing in the most recent RU-RU.txt example file - are they not supported anymore?

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:51 PM

Version 2.0 Release Candidate 2
http://www.startisba...ack_setupRC.exe
Since 2.0 is a big release, let's take time and polish 2.0 further. There will be 2.0RC3.

New:
- Changed Mod+Win 'Change Windows key mode' function to be less confusing. It no longer fires Start Menu / Start screen directly; to provide visual feedback, it flashes Start screen / Desktop thumbnail in bottom-left corner to reflect changed Windows key mode.
- Improved 'Activate by Web browser' experience
- New program folder highlighting in All Programs XP style
Fixed:
- Fixed Appearance styles/orbs list overflow issues
- Minor fixes

This post has been edited by Tihiy: 21 February 2013 - 03:51 PM


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 05:57 PM

View PostTihiy, on 21 February 2013 - 03:51 PM, said:

- Changed Mod+Win 'Change Windows key mode' function to be less confusing. It no longer fires Start Menu / Start screen directly; to provide visual feedback, it flashes Start screen / Desktop thumbnail in bottom-left corner to reflect changed Windows key mode.
This flashes on my secondary monitor for some reason.

Also, at least in RC1, the highlight colour was still orange, even in high contrast theme.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:22 PM

View PostTihiy, on 21 February 2013 - 03:51 PM, said:

Fixed:
- Fixed Appearance styles/orbs list overflow issues


thanks for fixing this :thumbup

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:08 AM

Polish translation: Done ! :thumbup

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