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Start Is Back - 2.1 release best native start menu experience - now even better

#1581 User is offline   vibbow 

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 07:41 PM

Guess what,

I reinstall the windows 8, and do the same setting as before.

And this problem is back!


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 07:53 PM

View PostTihiy, on 07 March 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

View Postberlen, on 07 March 2013 - 12:52 PM, said:

Is it possible to make the animation more win7-like?
That can be fixed by disabling start menu translucency (or animations). :}


This will be fixed in a future version? :o

This post has been edited by Tusticles: 23 March 2013 - 03:34 AM


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:24 PM

Try reinstall Windows 8 three times, got how to fix it, but still don't know how and why this problem happened.

The problem only happened after I install Norton Internet Security (And do fullly upgrade).

If I select wallpaper path through "Library", then this problem will happened.

If I select wallpaper path though absolute path, then it will be okay.

Going to reinstall Windows 8 again, to get everything back to normal... :}

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 02:58 PM

pheraps I fount an issue.
I've selected "Return to last used Environment" as a modern app is closed, but I noticed that recetly it returns to Desktop in any case, even though I open the modern app from the Start screen.
Is it normal?
I think it has started since i installed 2.0.1.
Thanks a lot

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 04:13 PM

View Postberlen, on 23 March 2013 - 02:58 PM, said:

I've selected "Return to last used Environment" as a modern app is closed, but I noticed that recetly it returns to Desktop in any case, even though I open the modern app from the Start screen.
There's a regression in 2.0.2 in this matter. It will be fixed in the next version.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 12:36 AM

thanks I also noticed this yesterday.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 06:00 AM

There are two issues I'd like to see solved in StartIsBack. First is minor: typed text in the search field should match other text instead of remaining light gray.
Second issue is a bit more difficult. Triggering the problem requires disabling desktop dimming from the UAC prompt. When you start something that requests elevation from the search bar in the start menu with keyboard, the elevation prompt has no focus. And the window that used to have focus previously loses it too. It can be triggered for example by typing "regedit" and simply pressing enter. Or it can be triggered by typing random program, say "calc", and pressing ctrl+shift+enter.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 11:53 AM

Had a poke around the Windows Blue aero.msstyles, and Microsoft has removed over 90% of the start menu resources.

Curious as to how this will affect SIB considering as far as I know it still relies on that information by default.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 11:58 AM

I've tried it and Setup works, but I can't see a StartButton.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 12:17 PM

Just to let you know that this (v2.0.2) does not work with Windows Blue, build 9364. It installs, restarts explorer, and does nothing, no start orb, nothing running in the Task Manager.

Classic Shell v3.6.5 also does not work. The .exe and it's service run, but don't actually do anything, other than bypass the Metro Start Screen.

Start8 does not work either. It runs (places a horrible icon on the Taskbar) but does nothing when clicked.


I have tried compatibility mode, and everything I can think of. I'm sorry Tihiy.

This post has been edited by stimpy88: 24 March 2013 - 12:53 PM


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Posted 24 March 2013 - 12:35 PM

This is a definitely sad news. StartIsBack as is won't work on Windows Blue, due to Start Menu implementation removed from it - almost completely. :(

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 12:50 PM

View PostTihiy, on 24 March 2013 - 12:35 PM, said:

This is a definitely sad news. StartIsBack as is won't work on Windows Blue, due to Start Menu implementation removed from it - almost completely. :(


I'm really sorry, I just don't understand MS's decision on this.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:06 PM

View PostTihiy, on 24 March 2013 - 12:35 PM, said:

This is a definitely sad news. StartIsBack as is won't work on Windows Blue, due to Start Menu implementation removed from it - almost completely. :(


Implementation from Explorer or the msstyles?

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:12 PM

View PostPandaX, on 24 March 2013 - 01:06 PM, said:

Implementation from Explorer or the msstyles?
Explorer, msstyles, registry - all of them.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:16 PM

View PostTihiy, on 24 March 2013 - 01:12 PM, said:

View PostPandaX, on 24 March 2013 - 01:06 PM, said:

Implementation from Explorer or the msstyles?
Explorer, msstyles, registry - all of them.


:} . I was hoping just the msstyles since that's just what I noticed because adding back the stuff in the msstyles would be quite easy.

This post has been edited by PandaX: 24 March 2013 - 01:18 PM


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Posted 24 March 2013 - 03:43 PM

Version 2.1 RC0
http://www.startisba...ack_setupRC.exe

New:
- Configurator fully supports high DPI modes / RTL languages
- Folders are sorted before items in All Programs XP style program subfolders
- Desktop toast is shown when new version is available
Fixed:
- Fixed 'Rename Start screen into Apps screen' feature breaking desktop app toast notifications
- Fixed 'When I close modern app - Return to last environment' feature not working as expected in 2.0.2

Please test 'Start screen to Apps screen' feature in this build.

This post has been edited by Tihiy: 24 March 2013 - 03:45 PM


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Posted 24 March 2013 - 04:34 PM

View PostTihiy, on 24 March 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

Version 2.1 RC0
http://www.startisba...ack_setupRC.exe

New:
- Configurator fully supports high DPI modes / RTL languages
- Folders are sorted before items in All Programs XP style program subfolders
- Desktop toast is shown when new version is available
Fixed:
- Fixed 'Rename Start screen into Apps screen' feature breaking desktop app toast notifications
- Fixed 'When I close modern app - Return to last environment' feature not working as expected in 2.0.2

Please test 'Start screen to Apps screen' feature in this build.


Could you please tell me if the animations will be 'fixed' or something, using transparency will make the animations look strange, I have to disable transparency to make them soft, like win7. I have no idea if that is a bug or they are supposed to work like that? Thank you.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 04:56 PM

View PostTusticles, on 24 March 2013 - 04:34 PM, said:

Could you please tell me if the animations will be 'fixed' or something, using transparency will make the animations look strange, I have to disable transparency to make them soft, like win7. I have no idea if that is a bug or they are supposed to work like that? Thank you.
Unfortunately, transparency & animation does not work well with Windows 8. This may or may not be fixed in the future.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 04:57 PM

Good work Tihiy!!!

For when a version compatible with Windows Blue build 9364?

European Portuguese is updated??

This post has been edited by gsilvap: 24 March 2013 - 05:04 PM


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Posted 24 March 2013 - 05:01 PM

View Postgsilvap, on 24 March 2013 - 04:57 PM, said:

For when a version compatible with Windows Blue build 9364?
Sometime or never. Writing a new start menu from scratch will take a long time.

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