[Keeperos]

Chrysalis, on 12 November 2012 - 10:45 AM, said:

To be fair and to balance this out, windows 7 is the same for me all devices work out of the box.

However the difference is for me windows 7 needs minimal work to get the GUI to my liking, windows 8 needs a 3rd party app such as start is back as well as other tweaks to get it to run as well as windows 7, and even then there is a lack of aero, lost functions which i think cant be patched back in and bits of metro in desktop windows, eg. try loading a file extension that has no app, you get what looks like a beta metro window. Over 30 functions have been removed from windows 7 to windows 8, the start menu is just the most publicised one.

I am also curious what new SSD features windows 8 has over windows 7, leaner faster? very generic terms. On all physical machiones and VM's I have tested on windows 7 is faster. except in certian optimised situations win8 can boot very fast other then that it looks weaker to me no performance. I certianly have not found anything thats made me drop windows 7 to upgrade. hyper-v stuff looks 'interesting' but thats about it.

If windows 8 is ready to use out of the box, why are you on this thread? if you using this app then windows 8 isnt ready for you to use out of the box.

Shane, on 12 November 2012 - 01:57 PM, said:

There are no new SSD features in Windows 8. I think he's referring to the launch propaganda Microsoft made about the new hybrid boot mode being "amazing" on an SSD

You quoted the wrong post, for the full info answering your questions in detail as I have personally experienced it you should have read post #633.
Now, understanding what that means and evaluating the importance of said improvements is a personal matter but for me they were a valid enough reason for the upgrade. Also, yes, in my personal experience, using my main and most powerful machine, Windows 8 made better use of my hardware and resulted in not only faster loading/shutting-down times but in all-around faster response times. YMMV.

As for out-of-the-box-experience, you might be lucky with your machines but with my Gigabyte Sniper G1, after a fresh windows installation absolutely nothing works out of the box. The SATA3 controller needs a driver loaded to be recognized (even harder considering that's where the old boot HDD and the SSD are connected which means they need to be loaded during install time), USB3 ports don't work, audio doesn't work and ethernet is recognized as a PowerPC cpu.Other things too need taking care of. like newer chipset drivers etc. In windows 8, simply by virtue of how new they still are, all I had to install was the BigFoot Network Manager program for the ethernet. Plus, the Windows installation itself took about a third of the time Windows 7 took to install. SiB took me a total of 1 minute to install and setup. Big whoop!

As for the "Microsoft launch propaganda" I have absolutely no idea what you are referring to so no, that's not it.

[DeathMAD]

But how theme, reffered before made rectangles in start menu without rounding? I have download and install theme but menu still in Win7 look.

[Tihiy]

DeathMAD, on 14 November 2012 - 09:57 AM, said:

But how theme, reffered before made rectangles in start menu without rounding? I have download and install theme but menu still in Win7 look.

You need to install uxtheme patcher like http://uxstyle.com/

[DeathMAD]

Thank you very match!

So, second question - any alternative for PayPal? (PayPal have some ill fame in Russia).

[mara-]

Can't wait for new version. Don't forget to count me on for translation.

Cheers

[geneticplasma]

bphlpt, on 13 November 2012 - 04:57 PM, said:

@geneticplasma, I know you have given very specific instructions on how to replicate the Orb detach bug every time you do it, so I'm sure it is real. (How you ran across this bug I don't know, since double clicking the Orb has never done anything but open and immediately close the Start Menu in all versions of Windows that I am aware of so I don't know why you would do it, but that's besides the point.) But no one else seems to be able to reproduce it, especially not Tihiy. Until he can, he has no way to try and fix it. Since I have not seen the bug I'm having a hard time visualizing what exactly happens when the bug occurs. Is there any possible way you can make a screen capture video showing what exactly you do and the effect of the bug? The request for this is not to prove that the error occurs, I believe you, but it will help demonstrate the effect and it might trigger some ideas of what is causing it and how to fix it for Tihiy. I'm just trying to help make this tool perfect and bulletproof.

Cheers and Regards

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(How you ran across this bug I don't know, since double clicking the Orb has never done anything but open and immediately close the Start Menu in all versions of Windows

This was only a try, to give simple description to you, to reproduce the bug. At first time, I detected the "bug" by accident.

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Is there any possible way you can make a screen capture video showing what exactly you do and the effect of the bug?

Yes it is, but I absolutely don't know, how to create a screen capture video.

[Keeperos]

One very very minor issue I've encountered with a couple of games, sometimes when I start a game and click on the desktop (thus switching focus there) BEFORE the game has loaded and switched to fullscreen the start button orb stays as an overlay over the fullscreened game.

Clicking once while in the game switches the focus back to the game and the orb disappears.

I would hardly even consider it a bug as it has no appreciable effect but I thought I'd put it out there.

[helpdesk98]

@ geneticplasma try camtasia studio 8 it's a 30 day trial. it is easy to use

[Tripredacus]

helpdesk98, on 14 November 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

@ geneticplasma try camtasia studio 8 it's a 30 day trial. it is easy to use

You can also try Fraps, which has a trial version that doesn't expire... but puts a watermark on the top.

[Aizen]

hmm guys cool mod I'm trying it but... the store works ok for you? Because I can click and enter but if I right click and go to "my apps" from the bar above I receive a login error...:/

This post has been edited by Aizen: 15 November 2012 - 12:09 PM

[CompUser]

@MrGRiM: Sorry to have offended you, I didn't intend to. I was just making an observation, is all.

@geneticplasma: Try "Steps Recorder"; it's built into Windows 8. Just launch it, click "Start Record", do your thing, click "Stop Record", add comments if you want, and save it. Edit: Steps Recorder doesn't make a video, but it puts into text everything you do, and inserts a screen print of each step along the way.

This post has been edited by CompUser: 15 November 2012 - 12:41 PM

[geneticplasma]

@CompUser: StepsRecorder only craete sinlge(!) Images - no videos.

@helpdesk98 & Tripredacus: Thank you, but I don't want mess up my system with such this software.

As Thihy provited, he want's to build a debug-version of SIB to locate the bug.

So we have to wait...

This post has been edited by geneticplasma: 15 November 2012 - 12:37 PM

[roirraW "edor" ehT]

Aizen, on 15 November 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

hmm guys cool mod I'm trying it but... the store works ok for you? Because I can click and enter but if I right click and go to "my apps" from the bar above I receive a login error...:/

It's working good for me. I just downloaded and installed 16 updates to my apps. I just right-clicked and went to My Apps too without a problem.

[Aizen]

roirraW"edor" ehT, on 15 November 2012 - 01:00 PM, said:

Aizen, on 15 November 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

hmm guys cool mod I'm trying it but... the store works ok for you? Because I can click and enter but if I right click and go to "my apps" from the bar above I receive a login error...:/

It's working good for me. I just downloaded and installed 16 updates to my apps. I just right-clicked and went to My Apps too without a problem.

hmm very strange I've tryied right now but I'm still stuck with this error...

[Tihiy]

StartIsBack Version 1.1RC

http://startisback.c...ack_setupRC.exe
Note: this is Release Candidate version. It should be stable but won't be published on site or pushed as new version to 1.0.

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- Fixed: uninstall could fail to remove settings / license
- Fixed: taskbar unhide didn't work in start button area
- New: silent install (/silent for user install; /elevated /silent for machine install; if machine install must be run with admin rights; does not start explorer back); (i would recommend using RecImg instead)
- New: option to start with Metro start screen
- New alternate orb (by PainteR)
- Less restrictions (same as Win7) on items which can be pinned to start menu
- Start button menu shows same menu items as in Win7

There could be more, major changes in 1.1 release, but don't hold your breath yet.

This post has been edited by Tihiy: 15 November 2012 - 02:41 PM

[ISOHaven]

Tihiy, on 15 November 2012 - 02:28 PM, said:

StartIsBack Version 1.1RC

Awesome, I'll check it out right after lunch!

[Aizen]

roirraW"edor" ehT, on 15 November 2012 - 01:00 PM, said:

Aizen, on 15 November 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

hmm guys cool mod I'm trying it but... the store works ok for you? Because I can click and enter but if I right click and go to "my apps" from the bar above I receive a login error...:/

It's working good for me. I just downloaded and installed 16 updates to my apps. I just right-clicked and went to My Apps too without a problem.

Peoblem solved, was a stupid bug from the ms account...I needed to just log-off and on again to fix it...-.-

[roirraW "edor" ehT]

Aizen, on 15 November 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

Peoblem solved, was a stupid bug from the ms account...I needed to just log-off and on again to fix it...-.-

Great, glad you got it worked out!

Tihiy, on 15 November 2012 - 02:28 PM, said:

StartIsBack Version 1.1RC

Wow, you are on top of this like crazy.

[MagicAndre1981]

the 1.1 RC shows an update. But the update is version 1.0.

[roirraW "edor" ehT]

MagicAndre1981, on 15 November 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:

the 1.1 RC shows an update. But the update is version 1.0.

Just guessing since 1.0 is the most recent official version, but he can probably correct that anyway for future beta/RCs.