[CompUser]

roirraW"edor" ehT, on 15 November 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:

MagicAndre1981, on 15 November 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:

the 1.1 RC shows an update. But the update is version 1.0.

Just guessing since 1.0 is the most recent official version, but he can probably correct that anyway for future beta/RCs.

Mine says 1.1RC.

[mara-]

What does it mean "Start button menu shows same menu items as in Win7"? If this are the items which should be shown after we press on All Programs, then I don't see it like on Win 7. Only IE10 is there and some others folders, there are no items like Windows Update, Windows Media Player, Windows Media Center, etc.

This post has been edited by mara-: 15 November 2012 - 07:07 PM

[itoy]

Nice work, 1.1RC , the right-click menu suits my system language now


http://p13.freep.cn/...922067112_0.png

[Servelius]

mara-, on 15 November 2012 - 07:06 PM, said:

What does it mean "Start button menu shows same menu items as in Win7"? If this are the items which should be shown after we press on All Programs, then I don't see it like on Win 7. Only IE10 is there and some others folders, there are no items like Windows Update, Windows Media Player, Windows Media Center, etc.

I haven't installed RC1.1 yet but I would guess that might refer to the context menu that pops up when you right click the start button.

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Keeperos, on 14 November 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:

One very very minor issue I've encountered with a couple of games, sometimes when I start a game and click on the desktop (thus switching focus there) BEFORE the game has loaded and switched to fullscreen the start button orb stays as an overlay over the fullscreened game.

Clicking once while in the game switches the focus back to the game and the orb disappears.

I would hardly even consider it a bug as it has no appreciable effect but I thought I'd put it out there.

Right, a small anomality. On the other hand, we recently had people complain about the orb missing under certain rare circumstances, such as in some cases with virtual desktops, on exitting full-screen mode etc. Since the orb is correctly overlayed when the full screen window is active, it's not a bug. Thank you for reporting.

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Someone suggested earlier "to add custom frames to user picture" - sounds good but the destiny of this project is to recreate the original start menu as it is in Windows 7. It should be no huge effort to add a custom frame manually.

[Aizen]

I've a request: can we have some other options in the right click over the orb like windows 8? I founded useful the link to the "internet options" and to System, now we have to go through control panel again to go there, hmm...

[MrGRiM]

Aizen, on 16 November 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

I've a request: can we have some other options in the right click over the orb like windows 8? I founded useful the link to the "internet options" and to System, now we have to go through control panel again to go there, hmm...

Not sure what your looking for but have you tried using the Win+X shortcut?

[Shane]

Keeperos, on 14 November 2012 - 09:47 AM, said:

You quoted the wrong post, for the full info answering your questions in detail as I have personally experienced it you should have read post #633.
Now, understanding what that means and evaluating the importance of said improvements is a personal matter but for me they were a valid enough reason for the upgrade. Also, yes, in my personal experience, using my main and most powerful machine, Windows 8 made better use of my hardware and resulted in not only faster loading/shutting-down times but in all-around faster response times. YMMV.

As for out-of-the-box-experience, you might be lucky with your machines but with my Gigabyte Sniper G1, after a fresh windows installation absolutely nothing works out of the box. The SATA3 controller needs a driver loaded to be recognized (even harder considering that's where the old boot HDD and the SSD are connected which means they need to be loaded during install time), USB3 ports don't work, audio doesn't work and ethernet is recognized as a PowerPC cpu.Other things too need taking care of. like newer chipset drivers etc. In windows 8, simply by virtue of how new they still are, all I had to install was the BigFoot Network Manager program for the ethernet. Plus, the Windows installation itself took about a third of the time Windows 7 took to install. SiB took me a total of 1 minute to install and setup. Big whoop!

As for the "Microsoft launch propaganda" I have absolutely no idea what you are referring to so no, that's not it.

Those features aren't specific to SSD's, they are the same regardless of the type of drive you boot Windows from. My comment still stands, Windows 8 does not have any new SSD features.

[raymonvisual]

would be nice if you add option to permanently disable the startscreen.

[Aizen]

MrGRiM, on 16 November 2012 - 02:29 AM, said:

Aizen, on 16 November 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

I've a request: can we have some other options in the right click over the orb like windows 8? I founded useful the link to the "internet options" and to System, now we have to go through control panel again to go there, hmm...

Not sure what your looking for but have you tried using the Win+X shortcut?

Ah! It's almost the same, but I remember that right-clicking the left-bottom corner before startisback I got other options, like the "internet & connection center" (sorry but I dunno how it's spelled in the english version). It would be useful if we can get the same right-clicking the orb now

This post has been edited by Aizen: 16 November 2012 - 06:43 AM

[roirraW "edor" ehT]

Aizen, on 16 November 2012 - 06:43 AM, said:

Ah! It's almost the same, but I remember that right-clicking the left-bottom corner before startisback I got other options, like the "internet & connection center" (sorry but I dunno how it's spelled in the english version). It would be useful if we can get the same right-clicking the orb now

Just curious, do you have an OEM Windows 8 machine? I mean did you buy a PC with Windows 8 on it that might have been customized by the OEM to be slightly different?

Because here are two pictures of:

Win-X:



Right-clicking the Metro thumbnail:



See what I mean? They're both the same for me. But if you have an OEM Windows 8 PC, maybe that's why it was different before? Tihiy or anyone else, what do you think?

Edit: FYI I always enter the Internet and Connection settings by right-clicking the system tray/notification tray icon: either LAN or wireless symbol, same thing.

This post has been edited by roirraW "edor" ehT: 16 November 2012 - 07:57 AM

[mara-]

Does anyone have issue with Win button? After the reboot when I press Win button, Start screen will open instead of Start Menu. When I first installed StartIsBack, pressing Win would open Start menu.

[hairsky]

mara-, on 16 November 2012 - 08:18 AM, said:

Does anyone have issue with Win button? After the reboot when I press Win button, Start screen will open instead of Start Menu. When I first installed StartIsBack, pressing Win would open Start menu.

No for me, it works good rc version..

[vit9696]

"Show Start screen first when i log on to machine"
should be at least "Show Start screen when I log on to machine"

Tihiy, do you still intend to implement Yandex money payment system support?

[mara-]

hairsky, on 16 November 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:

mara-, on 16 November 2012 - 08:18 AM, said:

Does anyone have issue with Win button? After the reboot when I press Win button, Start screen will open instead of Start Menu. When I first installed StartIsBack, pressing Win would open Start menu.

No for me, it works good rc version..

I just discovered when this happens for me. It only happens when I use reboot. When I shutdown and start computer everything is fine, but if I use reboot in Start menu, then Win button starts opening Start screen. I fix this behaviour by toggling the option "Rename Start Screen to Apps and keep only modern apps there". But on next reboot, it happens again. Can somebody try to reproduce this?

[roirraW "edor" ehT]

mara-, on 16 November 2012 - 09:55 AM, said:

I just discovered when this happens for me. It only happens when I use reboot. When I shutdown and start computer everything is fine, but if I use reboot in Start menu, then Win button starts opening Start screen. I fix this behaviour by toggling the option "Rename Start Screen to Apps and keep only modern apps there". But on next reboot, it happens again. Can somebody try to reproduce this?

Unable to reproduce so far.

I just tried your instructions with the v1.1RC version, and after a reboot, the Windows key still showed the Start Menu, not the Start Screen. Any more details? Do you have just one Windows key or two (left and right)? If I understand your description correctly, you normally already have the option to have the Start Screen only show Apps, and you have to toggle it off and back on after this happens, is that right? That's what I assumed for my trying to reproduce, I just wanted to make sure i understand correctly.

Try creating a new temporary user account and testing the behavior there. Does it still happen?

[roirraW "edor" ehT]

I've tested the SiB installation while having two Windows accounts logged in at the same time, on two PCs. In both cases, the user accounts which were left logged in but not used to install SiB were left without Explorer running. This isn't a bug and was fully expected, and all one needs to do at that time is the three-finger salute (Control-Alt-Delete) and choose Log Off.

It's a no-brainer to me to not have other accounts logged in while installing software such as this, just wanted to share the info. The first time was actually a mistake - I forgot I had another account logged in, and on the second PC was to confirm the first PC's results.

[denser]

Hi, after installing new version(in time when i write this) - i have blue screen with message DRIVER_IRQ_LESS_OR_EQUAL (rndis.sys)
After reboot a has wierd desktop, it was emty - nan icons nan start button, only nvidia in tray
I launch task manager, kill explorer and try to start it again - same picture. So, i kill explorer, start total commander, start installation of new version of start is back and now all was fine - Logout - Login - and desktop was pritty
Windows 8 x64 rtm.

[Stephen88]

Tihiy, on 15 November 2012 - 02:28 PM, said:

StartIsBack Version 1.1RC

- New: option to start with Metro start screen

yeah! I can't wait for final release

can you add on new orb the official windows 8 logo like as windows 7 start orb?

[ISOHaven]

Stephen88, on 16 November 2012 - 01:54 PM, said:

yeah! I can't wait for final release

There already is a final release. Now he's just taking it further.

Final release is here:
http://www.startisback.com/

[roirraW "edor" ehT]

denser, on 16 November 2012 - 01:14 PM, said:

Hi, after installing new version(in time when i write this) - i have blue screen with message DRIVER_IRQ_LESS_OR_EQUAL (rndis.sys)
After reboot a has wierd desktop, it was emty - nan icons nan start button, only nvidia in tray
I launch task manager, kill explorer and try to start it again - same picture. So, i kill explorer, start total commander, start installation of new version of start is back and now all was fine - Logout - Login - and desktop was pritty
Windows 8 x64 rtm.

Very interesting! Glad you got it solved yourself, smart thinking.