[Tihiy]

xpclient, on 30 November 2012 - 06:51 AM, said:

Mind if we "steal" it for Classic Shell?

Why not, sure.

As for link for cracked versions, i believe it's prohibited by forum rules. Cracked version doesn't work properly anyway.

[helpdesk98]

I like what I have seen so far. I have not logged much time on Windows 8 since the retail version came out. Start is back fills in the missing gap in W8! I am pleased with my purchase and look forward to future releases.

[kong]

Hi, thanks for this great app!

I notice that sometimes the application's icons are missing in the "Recent apps" list. I mean only the application names are shown, with empty icons.

Dunno how this can be reproduced but I still see it from time to time in 1.2RC2. Just wanna provide some feedback so maybe you have an idea what's going on.

[Tihiy]

kong, on 30 November 2012 - 09:44 AM, said:

I notice that sometimes the application's icons are missing in the "Recent apps" list. I mean only the application names are shown, with empty icons.

I've seen that only temporarily in low memory / high cpu usage conditions. Nevertheless in 1.2final i plan to improve MFU algorithm so this stuff should go away.

[marko123]

Hi!

On my system hibernation is enabled and I can use it through StartIsBack, but there is no option for hibernation in 'Power button default action' combo box. Please add that feature.
Other than that, I really like SIS, keep up the good work!

Start menu with hibernation option.


Combo box without hibernation option.

This post has been edited by marko123: 30 November 2012 - 12:55 PM

[CompUser]

Maybe I'm being a dufus, but I have to ask. What's the difference between "sleep" and "hibernate"?

[ender`]

Sleep: CPU and hard drives stop, but RAM is still powered (PSU doesn't power down). The computer needs a few seconds to wake up and continue working.
Hibernate: RAM content is saved to disk, then computer powers down completely. To continue working, you have to turn it on again, go through POST, then the RAM content is loaded from disk.

[ISOHaven]

CompUser, on 30 November 2012 - 05:03 PM, said:

Maybe I'm being a dufus, but I have to ask. What's the difference between "sleep" and "hibernate"?

Hibernate will physically turn your computer off. Everything gets saved into a save state file and when you turn your computer back on it will use that humongous file to resume itself.

Sleep is simply a power mode that uses very little power but your running data is all stored in memory and the computer still requires power.

[roirraW "edor" ehT]

Although it wasn't asked, Hybrid Sleep is a kind of combination of Hibernate and Sleep:

http://windows.micro...asked-questions:

Quote

What's the difference between sleep, hibernate, and hybrid sleep?

Sleep is a power-saving state that allows a computer to quickly resume full-power operation (typically within several seconds) when you want to start working again. Putting your computer into the sleep state is like pausing a DVD player—the computer immediately stops what it’s doing and is ready to start again when you want to resume working.

Hibernation is a power-saving state designed primarily for laptops. While sleep puts your work and settings in memory and draws a small amount of power, hibernation puts your open documents and programs on your hard disk, and then turns off your computer. Of all the power-saving states in Windows, hibernation uses the least amount of power. On a laptop, use hibernation when you know that you won't use your laptop for an extended period and won't have an opportunity to charge the battery during that time.

Hybrid sleep is designed primarily for desktop computers. Hybrid sleep is a combination of sleep and hibernate—it puts any open documents and programs in memory and on your hard disk, and then puts your computer into a low-power state so that you can quickly resume your work. That way, if a power failure occurs, Windows can restore your work from your hard disk. When hybrid sleep is turned on, putting your computer into sleep automatically puts your computer into hybrid sleep. Hybrid sleep is typically turned on by default on desktop computers.
Why can't I find the sleep or hibernate options on my computer?
Click the Start button Picture of the Start button , and then click the arrow next to the Shut down button.
Picture of the Shut down button with menu expandedSleep and Hibernate located on the menu

If sleep or hibernate aren't available, it might be for one or more of the following reasons:

Your video card might not support sleep. Update the driver for your video card, or check the information that came with your computer about your video card and supported drivers. For more information, see Update drivers: recommended links.

Some settings are managed by your system administrator. For more information, see Why won't Windows allow me to change a system setting?

Sleep and other power-saving states are turned off in your computer's basic input/output system (BIOS). To turn on sleep, restart your computer, and then enter the BIOS setup. As your computer starts, instructions typically appear on the screen that indicate which key or keyboard shortcut you must press to enter the BIOS setup process. Because not all computer manufacturers use the same BIOS, different keys are assigned for this purpose. To learn more, check the information that came with your computer or go to the manufacturer’s website.

If the hibernate option is missing, you might have hybrid sleep turned on.

[kong]

Tihiy, on 30 November 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

kong, on 30 November 2012 - 09:44 AM, said:

I notice that sometimes the application's icons are missing in the "Recent apps" list. I mean only the application names are shown, with empty icons.

I've seen that only temporarily in low memory / high cpu usage conditions. Nevertheless in 1.2final i plan to improve MFU algorithm so this stuff should go away.

Ah that looks promising... However, I used to get it right after a fresh boot. And my laptop has 8GB of RAM and i7 Quad Core so I'm not sure if that's the actual cause of the glitch, just FYI

PS. I was using Aero8 style and the glitch wouldn't go away unless I made some modification in the app's option (and cause it to do a refresh I believe)

This post has been edited by kong: 01 December 2012 - 12:40 AM

[roirraW "edor" ehT]

kong, on 01 December 2012 - 12:37 AM, said:

Ah that looks promising... However, I used to get it right after a fresh boot. And my laptop has 8GB of RAM and i7 Quad Core so I'm not sure if that's the actual cause of the glitch, just FYI

PS. I was using Aero8 style and the glitch wouldn't go away unless I made some modification in the app's option (and cause it to do a refresh I believe)

There's the problem! Your laptop's too fast! I'll trade you (at least mine has 8GB too) and you won't have that problem any more! j/k

[kong]

roirraW"edor" ehT, on 01 December 2012 - 09:29 AM, said:

There's the problem! Your laptop's too fast! I'll trade you (at least mine has 8GB too) and you won't have that problem any more! j/k

Lol

This post has been edited by kong: 01 December 2012 - 01:29 PM

[kramyugtaht]

Looks great Tihiy, I already sent the link to a tech friend and if all goes well during the trial I will certainly buy it to use for myself and other people I help and support. It's pretty lame that at such a reasonable price somebody has to put out a crack, I would definitely support you. Nice touch to give 2 licenses for the cheapest price btw, helps spread the word.

[Chris123NT]

I personally love the ability to combine the win+X menu, just makes things that much better for me as I kind of got used to it during my time without the start menu lol.

[Amigafever]

Just installed RC2 and wanted to say thanks for the best implementation available of the Start Menu that is StartIsBack. You should definitively get together with the 8GadgetPack guy.

A couple of questions, sorry if they have been addressed here already: I've tried the 3 visual styles but I can't detect any visual changes. Maybe they are subtle and I can't notice them?
Also, it would be nice to have a mouse-click way to access the Start Screen (apart from the key-shortcut) and the Apps available to the Start Menu. Having tried Start8, I think it offered a bottom-left "hot-corner" for accessing the Start Screen. Not sure if it's the default position, since I have a vertical-left taskbar, but it was nice to have even if sometimes the "minimize to desktop" was accidentally pressed.

[ender`]

Amigafever, on 03 December 2012 - 03:49 AM, said:

Also, it would be nice to have a mouse-click way to access the Start Screen (apart from the key-shortcut) and the Apps available to the Start Menu.

Wheel button opens the Start screen for me.

[Amigafever]

ender`, on 03 December 2012 - 04:05 AM, said:

Wheel button opens the Start screen for me.

Thanks. I use the wheel-click as double-click (very convenient btw) so that will not work unfortunately. My thought was for a Start Menu item/shortcut for the Start Screen, or the aforementioned Hot-Corner.

This post has been edited by Amigafever: 03 December 2012 - 04:24 AM

[roirraW "edor" ehT]

Someone *had* made an executable (might have been a batch file turned into an executable) which I was able to pin to the right of the Start Menu and click to get to the Apps screen during early testing of SiB, or when I was using Classic Shell before, but now that program opens the SiB Start Menu. I keep middle-click as middle-click, however, so it's not a problem for me.

[higH1]

Not sure if it has been reported already, but if you stop on an item with a jumplist, wait for it to show, and then move to another item - when jumplist closes, the item beneath the cursor loses focus if it has no jumplist.

[roirraW "edor" ehT]

higH1, on 03 December 2012 - 01:10 PM, said:

Not sure if it has been reported already, but if you stop on an item with a jumplist, wait for it to show, and then move to another item - when jumplist closes, the item beneath the cursor loses focus if it has no jumplist.

Reproduced.