Seagate 7200.11 firmware issue
#1
Posted 17 October 2012 - 04:33 PM
P.S.
When I try plugging the drive from sata to usb the drive displays in my computer for a moment and then disappears.
#2
Posted 18 October 2012 - 03:58 AM
supra89, on 17 October 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:
P.S.
When I try plugging the drive from sata to usb the drive displays in my computer for a moment and then disappears.
If the Seagate Tools tell you that the disk has bad sectors, there are GREAT probabilities that it has bad sectors.
Upgrading the firmware on a disk drive that has not passed successfully the Seatools tests (BOTH "short" and "long" ones) has NOT been a "smart move", please read as "DO NOT DO IT".
If your drive suffers form LBA0, the LBA0 fix may work (as it has for you).
If your drive suffers from BSY, the BSY fix may work.
If your drive does NOT suffer from LBA0 or BSY, you can apply BOTH the fixes all the times you want, but the status of the drive won't change.
The issue with USB connection could be BOTH an issue in your Registry and a symptom of bad contacts between the PCB and the disk or of bad contacts on the SATA connector.
If your BIOS cannot see the disk (when connected normally to SATA), it could be a symptom of bad contacts between the PCB and the disk or of bad contacts on the SATA connector.
If your BIOS cannot see the disk BUT Seagate Tools can see it, the drive is an UNKNOWN state, for which no "fix" is available.
If your BIOS cannot see the disk AND Seagate Tools cannot see it, the drive (besides the above possibiliteis) is foobar (possibly because of the applied firmware).
jaclaz
#3
Posted 19 October 2012 - 02:26 PM
This post has been edited by supra89: 19 October 2012 - 02:26 PM
#4
Posted 20 October 2012 - 02:07 AM
supra89, on 19 October 2012 - 02:26 PM, said:
We are still on different wave lengths.
You have described what you did (part of which was actually "wrong" or "unjustified/unneeded"), but you seemingly fail to diagnose and describe the current situation of that disk.
Sure, if you expect to boot from it as a sign it is working
(again) quick reminder:
When connected to a SATA port, is it seen by BIOS?
If no <- check contacts, connectors, BSY "fix"
if yes, is it see but LBA0?
If yes <- LBA0 fix
If no <- check it with seatools
Does seatools see it? (BTW which version of the tools, the DOS or the Windows one, and if the latter undr which OS?)
If yes, run seatools BOTH short and long test (and post actual results).
If no, either the drive is definitely dead or you need to try again checking contacts, connectors, cables, etc.
If seatools sees it, does Disk Management see it as "Raw"?
If yes, the disk is "revived" though "RAW".
If no, try it on another PC, if it also cannot be seen on this latter either the drive is definitely dead or you need to try again checking contacts, connectors, cables, etc.
jaclaz
#5
Posted 20 October 2012 - 11:28 AM
This post has been edited by supra89: 20 October 2012 - 11:31 AM
#6
Posted 20 October 2012 - 02:42 PM
What I want to understand is (I'll ask numbered questions, in order to hopefully receive correspondently numbered answers) what happens NOW (the past is gone
Do you have to recover data from that disk? (Yes/No)
- Do you have to recover data from that disk? (Yes/No)
- Is the disk shown in BIOS of your PC (connected to a SATA port)? (Yes/No)
- Is the disk shown in BIOS of your "other" PC (connected to a SATA port)? (Yes/No)
- Is the disk shown in DISK MANAGEMENT (and NOT in EXPLORER or other file manager) on your PC (connected to a SATA port)? (Yes/No)
- Is the disk shown in DISK MANAGEMENT (and NOT in EXPLORER or other file manager) on your "other" PC (connected to a SATA port)? (Yes/No)
You see, if seatools sees it, also BIOS should AND also DISK MANAGEMENT would normally see it (but not necessarily EXPLORER or any other file manager), more technically, one thing is connection of the device, and another one is the mounting of the partitions/filesystems.
Connecting it (or any other possibly not fully working disk) through USB while having "auomatically access" to USB drives turned on (or whatever is the setting) is "pure folly".
You should disable that behaviour, it should be this one
http://www.howtogeek...ves-in-windows/
jaclaz
#7
Posted 20 October 2012 - 05:55 PM
2.No way in testing
3.No way in testing
4.No way in testing
5.No way in testing
Disable the shell hardware detection. Seatools will not find HD. I have sata to usb only unless I put the drive back in the orginal PC. Do I need to purchase a sata cable to go from my HD to PC.
Update: I just realized I need a esata to sata cable. I will get one on order.
This post has been edited by supra89: 20 October 2012 - 06:44 PM
#8
Posted 21 October 2012 - 07:00 AM
#9
Posted 21 October 2012 - 12:29 PM
1.Yes
2.Yes
3.No way to test
4.Yes
5.No way to test
When I hook the HD up it freezes everything up. It takes away my pointer and it will not let me do anything until I unplug the HD. I can have disk management already pulled up and it will show up under disk management but it will not let me do anything with it.
#10
Posted 22 October 2012 - 01:47 AM
supra89, on 21 October 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:
1.Yes
2.Yes
3.No way to test
4.Yes
5.No way to test
When I hook the HD up it freezes everything up. It takes away my pointer and it will not let me do anything until I unplug the HD. I can have disk management already pulled up and it will show up under disk management but it will not let me do anything with it.
Good.
This means that you can put the TTL adapter and the screwdriver back in the toolbox, whatever it could be done with it has already been done (i.e. you are out oif the BSY situation).
Now try again, connecting the hard disk through the USB.
I see no reasons why it shouldn't be seen in Disk Management when USB connected.
If it doesn't you will need to put aside (temporarily) that Windows 7 install on the machine and use a Linux "Live CD" (or better a "Live" Linux on a USB stick) to access the disk.
In any case, your next step is to procure yourself another disk, surely working, slightly larger than the failed one (i.e. if that disk is 500 Gb, you need a 640 Gb, if it s a 640, you need a 750 one, if it is a 750 you need a 1Tb, etc.).
The next step is to make an image (or various "partial images" because of the "bad sectors") of the whole disk.
jaclaz



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