dencorso Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board ExpressPosted from a real PC running XP SP2, using Opera Browser 9.52. It's probably an automatic message added by that Board Express application Sure , I know, the IPad and the blackberry do the same and it is considered (by me and a few other people around) a form of "netiquette" to remove it as it:senselessly "promotes" the device/application (and you don't get any money for it)could (though this is specifically not the case for a Lumia 900 ) cause a sense of "envy" to the readers that would like (but cannot afford) a "desirable" itemI like:Ex nominis expers supertabula mea missa. It does not "promote" anything except, perhaps, the use of macaronic Latin.I sometimes add it to my replies to e-mails sent from any of those ipso-omphalocentric mobiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I like:Ex nominis expers supertabula mea missa. It does not "promote" anything except, perhaps, the use of macaronic Latin.I sometimes add it to my replies to e-mails sent from any of those ipso-omphalocentric mobiles. Bene intelligo tuae rationes. Hoc nuntium ab innominato instrumento missum erat.jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b-man Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 (edited) i dont even update my win 7 is there a need for updates?every time i done it on xp it slowed it down only time it was good was when i built an intergrated disc with all updates, but cbf doing that with win7 Edited November 2, 2012 by b-man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Yes there is a need to update in a timely fashion. Otherwise you are susceptible to hacks.Updates don't slow down systems. It must have been something else. 99% of the time all updates do is replace a system file with a patched, higher version number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluberti Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I like:Ex nominis expers supertabula mea missa. It does not "promote" anything except, perhaps, the use of macaronic Latin.I sometimes add it to my replies to e-mails sent from any of those ipso-omphalocentric mobiles. Bene intelligo tuae rationes. Hoc nuntium ab innominato instrumento missum erat.jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryTri Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 XP is used because it isn't broken, most enterprises still use old apps, and upgrades cost money. It has nothing to do with the technical merits of XP versus Windows 7 or Windows 8, it's a fiscal decision. It's cheaper for them (until 2014, anyway) to upgrade at the cheapest pace possible, and that might include not at all.Still it has to do with the quality and value of Windows XP themselves - at least that's what I believe. The fact that Windows XP is the most succesfull version of Windows until now isn't sheare coincidence, is it? I believe that the Microsoft's big mistake is that they tried to make something better than it without using it as a stable basis. Perhaps it was the basis for Windows Vista but they thought that people were lacking 3D Windows and transparency... and messed the whole thing with UAC. Now Windows 8 make me feel rather sad - thanks God they finally have a desktop and there are numerus solutions for the lack of the Start Menu. I don't question the OS capabilities but it just doesn't make you happy - if you know what I mean. It rather puzzles you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 actually the "3D windows" was more than necessary moveXP has GDI object limitation imposed, for example I had problem when used a theme(skin) and opened 10 appsOS would refuse to work, no new window would open nor draw, task manager would refuse to runno explorer window would openI'd be greeted by beep-error soundthis was common problem and the only solution was vista's desktop composition engine (desktop window manager/DWM)with that user has no such limitation problems at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) Still it has to do with the quality and value of Windows XP themselves - at least that's what I believe. I believe that the Microsoft's big mistake is that they tried to make something better than it without using it as a stable basis. Perhaps it was the basis for Windows Vista but they thought that people were lacking 3D Windows and transparency... and messed the whole thing with UAC.you can believe what you want but this is not correct XP has only grown that much because Vista was delayed. A lot of companies wanted to skip XP and stay at 2000, but because of the Vista delay they were forced to upgrade because they didn't wanted to use a Windows which is out of mainstream support.And VISTA is the EXTREMELY STABLE BASIS for Windows 7 and Windows 8 Edited November 5, 2012 by MagicAndre1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJARRRPCGP Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 (edited) actually the "3D windows" was more than necessary moveXP has GDI object limitation imposed, for example I had problem when used a theme(skin) and opened 10 appsOS would refuse to work, no new window would open nor draw, task manager would refuse to runno explorer window would openI'd be greeted by beep-error soundthis was common problem and the only solution was vista's desktop composition engine (desktop window manager/DWM)with that user has no such limitation problems at allI dunno why your skin would hog them up. That's not common with NT-based Windows. It was common with non-NT-based versions. Edited December 1, 2012 by RJARRRPCGP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpclient Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 actually the "3D windows" was more than necessary moveXP has GDI object limitation imposed, for example I had problem when used a theme(skin) and opened 10 appsOS would refuse to work, no new window would open nor draw, task manager would refuse to runno explorer window would openI'd be greeted by beep-error soundthis was common problem and the only solution was vista's desktop composition engine (desktop window manager/DWM)with that user has no such limitation problems at allWindows XP, Vista, and Windows 7 have a configurable GDI object limit (via the registry) that defaults to 10,000 objects per process (but a theoretical maximum of 65,536 for the entire session. The reason the behavior you describe happens on XP is because the shared desktop heap is limited. Increase it and XP will scale beautifully on modern systems:Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\SubSystems]"Debug"=hex(2):00,00"Kmode"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,\ 00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,77,00,\ 69,00,6e,00,33,00,32,00,6b,00,2e,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,00,00"Optional"=hex(7):50,00,6f,00,73,00,69,00,78,00,00,00,00,00"Posix"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,\ 00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,70,00,\ 73,00,78,00,73,00,73,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,00,00"Required"=hex(7):44,00,65,00,62,00,75,00,67,00,00,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,\ 6f,00,77,00,73,00,00,00,00,00"Windows"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,\ 74,00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,63,\ 00,73,00,72,00,73,00,73,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,20,00,4f,00,62,00,6a,00,\ 65,00,63,00,74,00,44,00,69,00,72,00,65,00,63,00,74,00,6f,00,72,00,79,00,3d,\ 00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,53,00,68,00,61,00,\ 72,00,65,00,64,00,53,00,65,00,63,00,74,00,69,00,6f,00,6e,00,3d,00,31,00,30,\ 00,32,00,34,00,2c,00,31,00,32,00,32,00,38,00,38,00,2c,00,35,00,31,00,32,00,\ 20,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,3d,00,4f,00,6e,00,20,00,53,\ 00,75,00,62,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,54,00,79,00,70,00,65,00,\ 3d,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,53,00,65,00,72,00,76,\ 00,65,00,72,00,44,00,6c,00,6c,00,3d,00,62,00,61,00,73,00,65,00,73,00,72,00,\ 76,00,2c,00,31,00,20,00,53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,65,00,72,00,44,00,6c,00,6c,\ 00,3d,00,77,00,69,00,6e,00,73,00,72,00,76,00,3a,00,55,00,73,00,65,00,72,00,\ 53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,65,00,72,00,44,00,6c,00,6c,00,49,00,6e,00,69,00,74,\ 00,69,00,61,00,6c,00,69,00,7a,00,61,00,74,00,69,00,6f,00,6e,00,2c,00,33,00,\ 20,00,53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,65,00,72,00,44,00,6c,00,6c,00,3d,00,77,00,69,\ 00,6e,00,73,00,72,00,76,00,3a,00,43,00,6f,00,6e,00,53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,\ 65,00,72,00,44,00,6c,00,6c,00,49,00,6e,00,69,00,74,00,69,00,61,00,6c,00,69,\ 00,7a,00,61,00,74,00,69,00,6f,00,6e,00,2c,00,32,00,20,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,\ 66,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,43,00,6f,00,6e,00,74,00,72,00,6f,00,6c,00,3d,00,4f,\ 00,66,00,66,00,20,00,4d,00,61,00,78,00,52,00,65,00,71,00,75,00,65,00,73,00,\ 74,00,54,00,68,00,72,00,65,00,61,00,64,00,73,00,3d,00,31,00,36,00,00,00[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\SubSystems\CSRSS]"CsrSrvSharedSectionBase"=dword:7f6f0000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 (edited) thanks for infobut you dumped wrong data according to MS (and other sites)this is solution:---------------The size of each desktop heap allocation is controlled by the following registry value:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\SubSystems\WindowsWindows SharedSection specifies the system and desktop heaps using the following format: Windows SharedSection=xxxx,yyyy,zzzzFor 32-bit operating systems, increase the yyyy value to "12288", increase the zzzz value to "1024"For 64-bit operating systems, increase the yyyy value to "20480", increase the zzzz value to "1024" Edited December 27, 2012 by vinifera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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