[cozinbob2]

Ponch, on 01 November 2012 - 05:33 AM, said:

Allow me please to participate to this ridiculous thread.
First, .... the guide (made by someone else) is not that great, so you shouldn't have been expecting much praise, which you made it look like that's what you were in for (with your 2nd post).
Aside of that, please people, give him a break.
Lets just consider this; nLite at the start was a tool to make Windows XP/2K install the fastest possible, for a personal (enthusiast's) use. Removing unneeded components and pre-integrating your own drivers were ways to get there.
The "guide" is aimed to make a huge XP disc that would be able to install on everyone (else?)'s pc, so it's not in the philosophical line of nLite. Personally, I would not recommend anyone to follow that guide.
I do agree though that frequently asked info is buried deep in the forum, but this guide is only aimed at answering very few of them and as such is not worth a sticky. End.

I totally agree, but I have been able to build an XP/SP3 install disc that is fully unattended from the format drive stage of the install, and it only has a small number of windows updates to get, and it is a universal setup not respective to hardware or system type whereby driver installs are not required. The guide mentioned that he would have to write a book to go into all the details so it is (in my opinion) more of a suggestion of a procedure to build an XPSP3 setup that works on any PC. In keeping with the Nlite purpose I do reduce the size of the XP by about 150Mb's, and depending on which driver packs i include I can make it fit on a CD disc. The large packs for sound and video are omitted, and only the mass storage, chipset, and lan or wireless lan are kept.

[jaclaz]

Only to further clear the whole point is/was not whether the referenced post is a good "guide" or a "bad" guide, simply that it represents NOT a "guide" and at least from me there was not at all a bashng of it, but simply a pointing out how it cannot (IMHO) be called a "guide".

jaclaz

[cozinbob2]

jaclaz, on 01 November 2012 - 09:06 AM, said:

Only to further clear the whole point is/was not whether the referenced post is a good "guide" or a "bad" guide, simply that it represents NOT a "guide" and at least from me there was not at all a bashng of it, but simply a pointing out how it cannot (IMHO) be called a "guide".

jaclaz

I chose a wrong word maybe to the name of the thread. Found this as a part of what guide means. "pamphlet, etc., giving information, instructions, or advice; handbook: an investment guide".

[Fernando 1]

cozinbob2, on 01 November 2012 - 09:11 AM, said:

I chose a wrong word maybe to the name of the thread. Found this as a part of what guide means. "pamphlet, etc., giving information, instructions, or advice; handbook: an investment guide".

If anyone starts a new thread with the topic "Guide to build XP/SP3 setup drivers included and more" within the Forum named "nLite Forum", the visitors do expect,
1. that there is something like a "Guide" (and not a simple link) within the start post,
2. that the thread starter has written the "Guide" himself and
3. that the "Guide" has been designed for users of the tool nLite.
None of these preconditions are given. The title is absolutely misleading. I even doubt, that this thread is really helpful for nLite users.
Please compair your "guide" with my "sticky" ones within this Forum.
The correct title for this thread would be "Link to another Forum with a description of the DriverPacks method".

Additional information for all visitors of this thread:
The most important reason to use a tool like nLite is the integration of the appropriate AHCI or RAID driver into the XP CD, because otherwise the XP Setup will not detect the HDD/SSD, which is running in AHCI or RAID mode.
Unfortunately none of the DriverPacks, not even the "Mass Storage" DP, contains a file named TXTSETUP.OEM, which is absolutely needed, if the user tries to load an AHCI or RAID driver via F6 or to integrate it into the XP CD by using a tool like nLite.
That is why it doesn't make much sense to combine the DriverPacks with nLite.

This post has been edited by Fernando 1: 02 November 2012 - 01:14 PM

[cozinbob2]

Fernando 1, on 01 November 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

cozinbob2, on 01 November 2012 - 09:11 AM, said:

I chose a wrong word maybe to the name of the thread. Found this as a part of what guide means. "pamphlet, etc., giving information, instructions, or advice; handbook: an investment guide".

If anyone starts a new thread with the topic "Guide to build XP/SP3 setup drivers included and more" within the Forum named "nLite Forum", the visitors do expect,
1. that there is something like a "Guide" (and not a simple link) within the start post,
2. that the thread starter has written the "Guide" himself and
3. that the "Guide" has been designed for users of the tool nLite.
None of these preconditions are given. The title is absolutely misleading. I even doubt, that this thread is really helpful for nLite users.
Please compair your "guide" with my "sticky" ones within this Forum.
The correct title for this thread would be "Link to another Forum with a description of the DriverPacks method".

Please show me the sticky for the driver packs method.

[Fernando 1]

cozinbob2, on 01 November 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:

Please show me the sticky for the driver packs method.

This is the nLite Forum and not the DriverPacks Forum.