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Aero Glass for Win8 RC1 !!! for experienced beta testers only !!!

#101 User is online   bigmuscle 

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 06:41 AM

View PostORelio, on 30 January 2013 - 06:22 AM, said:

Just one thing, would it be possible not to display the popup "Preview Only!!" ? (And the console window ?)
It's a bit annoying if I put the application on windows startup :/


No, it is not possble. This preview is not intended for regular use.


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Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:46 AM

OK, I'll wait for the final version. Good luck for the bug hunting :hello:
So that's not possible to skip the message box... Unless...

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... I'll launch the preview "not intended for regular use" on windows startup anyway ^^

This post has been edited by ORelio: 30 January 2013 - 09:51 AM


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Posted 30 January 2013 - 12:49 PM

ad iTunes: it does not seem to like its window to be layered and it does not work either with any utility which makes windows transparent (e.g. bLend,WinAeroGlass etc.).

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 12:58 PM

View Postbigmuscle, on 30 January 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

ad iTunes: it does not seem to like its window to be layered and it does not work either with any utility which makes windows transparent (e.g. bLend,WinAeroGlass etc.).


Well, I can live without iTunes, there are other alternatives.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 02:06 PM

View Postbigmuscle, on 30 January 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

ad iTunes: it does not seem to like its window to be layered and it does not work either with any utility which makes windows transparent (e.g. bLend,WinAeroGlass etc.).

After I have seen your app I decide to pause the development of Winaeroglass. BTW, I am the person behind Winaero :)
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Tried with clean FF
Works properly.

This post has been edited by hb860: 30 January 2013 - 02:16 PM


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Posted 30 January 2013 - 02:22 PM

View Posthb860, on 30 January 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

After I have seen your app I decide to pause the development of Winaeroglass. BTW, I am the person behind Winaero :)

I was using your app before discovering bigmuscle's one. It was efficient. No blur, but still cool :)

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 05:35 PM

View Posthb860, on 30 January 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

View Postbigmuscle, on 30 January 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

ad iTunes: it does not seem to like its window to be layered and it does not work either with any utility which makes windows transparent (e.g. bLend,WinAeroGlass etc.).

After I have seen your app I decide to pause the development of Winaeroglass. BTW, I am the person behind Winaero :)
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Tried with clean FF
Works properly.


I have been using yours with the System Transparency app and they work well together and seem to remove some of the bugs, I think you should continue your development or at least get it to a finished UI state with startup options.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 11:52 PM

This work is great!
Very nice to see progress of winaero glass on Windows 8.

Is there any possible way to hide cmd-window of dwm.exe while tool is running?
Yes, of course I understand that this is only preview version, and intro message box is ok, but to show cmd one at everythime is not so good.
Tried to use ORelio's C# code to hide it, but nothing well.

Sure I will wait for the new version of DWMHook!
Very interested in this project and hope it will be open-source to let any other developers work with it.
Also I want to look at the source :) .

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 10:00 AM

View PostDageron, on 30 January 2013 - 11:52 PM, said:

Tried to use ORelio's C# code to hide it, but nothing well.

I added a loop in the program, so it should be able to skip the dialog no matter how long it takes to launch DWMLoader :

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Regarding the console window, this not possible to hide it because it's attached to the dwm.exe process, which is the window manager.
If you hide the window manager, it will freeze the whole screen except the mouse pointer and you'll have to reboot windows ( I tried :P )
... The only possible thing is minimizing the console window it in the taskbar. Of course this window is for debug purposes only, it should disappear in the final version ^^
Here is a way to launch the previous loader & minimize all of the windows (again, it's not possible to minimize the window manager itself) :

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Of course, instead of usign a loader of the loader of the loader, it would probably be wiser to wait until the beta :)

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 10:55 AM

It's freezing Windows here ... attached debug

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 02:26 PM

AERO GLASS for Win8 PREVIEW 2

This is still preview only, so it does not have to work for you at all. Report if it does not run at all, so I can fix as soon as possible.

What's new:
* removed MSVCR110D.DLL and MSVCP110D.DLL dependency
* started code refactoring
* fixed DWM deadlock with some applications (e.g. Snipping Tool)
* decreased video memory to the half
* it should be approx. three-times faster (although it can still be slow when having many large windows)
* added some registry settings:

HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Windows\DWM (no user-specific settings now!)
DeviceFeatureLevel (DWORD) = forces to use specific Direct3D version level. Helpful in case of incompatible drivers etc. Allowed values 0x9100, 0x9200, 0x9300 (VMWare default), 0xa000 (for D3D 10), 0xa100 (for D3D 10.1), 0xb000 (for D3D 11), 0xb100 (for D3D 11.1). Do not use if everything works correctly!!!

BlurDeviation (DWORD) = the amount of blur to be applied. Set to 0 to disable blur effect completely. Default value is 30.

GlassTransparency (DWORD) = value of alpha component which will be applied to the glass. Range 0 (total transparency) - 255 (opaque), default value is 175.

Please, if you want to play with these settings, report back which value are the best for you, so I can allow best user experience in release version :-)

http://leteckaposta.cz/621343263 (reuploaded)

This post has been edited by bigmuscle: 31 January 2013 - 02:54 PM


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Posted 31 January 2013 - 02:57 PM

great :) Now I have the true glass/transparency back, but blur is missing in StartIsBack:

Attached File  missing_Blur_StartIsBack.png (179.53K)
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:thumbup :thumbup :thumbup :wub:


I also have a crash.log:

ntdll: 0x9F115CFF: RtlQueryDepthSList
ntdll: 0x9F115A9F: RtlQueryDepthSList
dwmcore: 0x9A5085AF: MilComposition_PeekNextMessage
dwmcore: 0x9A508EB1: MilComposition_PeekNextMessage
dwmcore: 0x9A508CCB: MilComposition_PeekNextMessage
dwmcore: 0x9A4E5BCE: MilConnectionManager_NotifyHostEvent
dwmcore: 0x9A4E5B6D: MilConnectionManager_NotifyHostEvent
dwmcore: 0x9A4C4677: ?
dwmcore: 0x9A4C42F0: ?
dwmcore: 0x9A4C41BD: ?
dwmcore: 0x9A4C2C26: ?
dwmcore: 0x9A4C1F84: ?
dwmcore: 0x9A556B5C: MilCompositionEngine_InitializePartitionManager
KERNEL32: 0x9D83167E: BaseThreadInitThunk
ntdll: 0x9F12A5E5: RtlUserThreadStart



and when opening a new window, there is a delay before the transparency is enabled.

This post has been edited by MagicAndre1981: 31 January 2013 - 03:00 PM


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Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:06 PM

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blur is missing in StartIsBack
Disable start menu translucency in StartIsBack properties.
Congrats on 0.2 release!

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:30 PM

It's getting there, looks good!

The text colour is a bit of a problem though. I notice one or two unsigned themes have the glow around the text like in the picture below, which allows the use of black text. Maybe this could be considered as an option?

Note, the pic is the standard demo pic for the theme, it isn't my machine!
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:44 PM

Glow effect should be enabled in the window theme, not in DWM.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:59 PM

Congrats, this new demo is much more smoother and uses much less RAM (22MB vs 180MB for dwm.exe :thumbup )
Also, customization of the blur/transparency is a great feature!
I've set the opacity to 125 and for me that's the best value.
The current default blur value of 30 is fine -- tried 15, 20, 25, 35 :yes:

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This post has been edited by ORelio: 31 January 2013 - 05:28 PM


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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

As usual, nice update, no longer get flickering Windows, iTunes is still transparent, but not a big problem for me. The only issue I see so far is the window close animation doesn't play. Aside from that, keep up the good work! :D

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:59 PM

Really nice! (and working now) but just needs a little bit more transparency for me. Will play with values :)

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 07:30 PM

hi...whenever i start the DWM loader, kaspersky goes crazy...loader works but cpu utilzation is very high as kaspersky tries to do something!!!

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:30 PM

Excellent work again. I'm playing around with several values. I will test each of the values for a few hours and see how they contrast with the rest of the desktop and how my eyes adjust and will post my opinion tomorrow. Thanks for your work on re-introducing Aero Glass to Windows 8. I don't think that I'm exaggerating when I say that millions of Windows 8 users will be very happy.

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