[dencorso]

When bigmuscle sees fit to, and not any earlier.

[AppleHash]

Works like a charm to me.
Great work, no bugs or crashes yet.

[idas]

bigmuscle, on 17 February 2013 - 04:03 AM, said:

It is not fully possible, but next version will use original pixel shaders which are still present in Windows 8 and even loaded into memory by DWM process itself.

a 32 bit version please?

[Tihiy]

bigmuscle, on 17 February 2013 - 04:03 AM, said:

It is not fully possible, but next version will use original pixel shaders which are still present in Windows 8 and even loaded into memory by DWM process itself.

Well, dwmcore still contains everything for Flip3D and blur, it's just a matter of a code removed. If you can bring it back, that would rock.

[bigmuscle]

Yeah, there is still everything - pixel shaders, vertex shaders, sampler states, input layouts etc. and everything is even loaded into memory during DWM startup. I am currently playing with the pixel shaders and it works like a charm. It even respects the colorization/balance settings from the registry. However, I do not want to rely on it too much because we can't say how long the code stays there and it can be removed with any future update.

This post has been edited by bigmuscle: 18 February 2013 - 05:58 AM

[Aaaaa]

I tried running it in a virtualbox virtual machine (W8 pro x64)
It says it loaded, but didn't actually do anything

debug.log:
http://paste.install...m/view/5c620b2d

idas, on 18 February 2013 - 04:55 AM, said:

bigmuscle, on 17 February 2013 - 04:03 AM, said:

It is not fully possible, but next version will use original pixel shaders which are still present in Windows 8 and even loaded into memory by DWM process itself.

a 32 bit version please?

People still use 32-bit Windows?

[Tusticles]

bigmuscle, on 18 February 2013 - 05:57 AM, said:

Yeah, there is still everything - pixel shaders, vertex shaders, sampler states, input layouts etc. and everything is even loaded into memory during DWM startup. I am currently playing with the pixel shaders and it works like a charm. It even respects the colorization/balance settings from the registry. However, I do not want to rely on it too much because we can't say how long the code stays there and it can be removed with any future update.

Then we don't update it

[SilverSurfer]

Works on my Intel i7 desktop with Nvidia Gforce GTX 580 but doesn't work on my ATI/ AMD on Radeon HD 3200 graphics laptop , could it be the laptops direct X9 verses the desktops direct X11?
I just get the black screen on the laptop and I have to force a laptop to reboot.

Was great on the desktop as you can see with my screen grab.
My link

Looking forward to the official release as I only used dark themes like this and I would love to have this the full transparency so I can replicate this thing in windows 8.
My link

This post has been edited by SilverSurfer: 18 February 2013 - 09:09 AM

[drakenabarion]

SilverSurfer, on 18 February 2013 - 09:07 AM, said:

Works on my Intel i7 desktop with Nvidia Gforce GTX 580 but doesn't work on my ATI/ AMD on Radeon HD 3200 graphics laptop , could it be the laptops direct X9 verses the desktops direct X11?
I just get the black screen on the laptop and I have to force a laptop to reboot.

Was great on the desktop as you can see with my screen grab.
My link

Looking forward to the official release as I only used dark themes like this and I would love to have this the full transparency so I can replicate this thing in windows 8.
My link

How do you get Windows Explorer to look so transparent? I mean I wouldnt personally like as much transparency in the normal Explorer window. I'd prefer the toolbar to look like my Office 2010 screenshot (I posted previously on here). However, for things like Personalisation, that level of transparent background is quite effective.

Hmmm, I guess thats off topic tho.

Back on topic! I have been using Preview 3 for nearly a week now, and, in the past few days, I have had absolutely no issues. This includes playing games for 10+ sessions and leaving on overnight. I have not restarted in several days.

I look forward to any updated that might include the retained DWM code. I mean, while that code is there, it could be used as a temporary measure (if it helped - Maybe it doesnt help), while work on an independent implementation was done.

I would bet, since using Windows as far back as 1990, MS tended not to remove some pieces of code left over from previous builds. My guess is that keeping certain piece stops breaking of undocumented dependencies. e.g, there were the same GUI bugs in Windows 95 all the way until the GUI was remade for XP. I know that is just speculation, but, since DWM hasnt really changed that much, I just bet there is a reason they would never admit for keeping the old code. Well, it could be laziness I guess. Laziness could also explain the Windows 95 onwards GUI bugs too.

Oh but this is all idle speculation on my behalf. I havent programmed anything since college... so I guess I haven't programmed anything in nearly 8 years xD.

[bigmuscle]

SilverSurfer, on 18 February 2013 - 09:07 AM, said:

Works on my Intel i7 desktop with Nvidia Gforce GTX 580 but doesn't work on my ATI/ AMD on Radeon HD 3200 graphics laptop , could it be the laptops direct X9 verses the desktops direct X11?
I just get the black screen on the laptop and I have to force a laptop to reboot.

You can try playing with DeviceFeatureLevel registry settings. It allows achieving glass effect also on non-supported drivers (and even when no graphics drivers are installed).

[vjott]

idas, on 18 February 2013 - 04:55 AM, said:

a 32 bit version please?

This question has been answered ad nauseam. It won't hurt you to read. Pestering the developer with this question won't make it happen any faster. If you want to see a 32-bit pre-release version so badly, you can pitch in and help make it happen.

[Netham45]

vjott, on 18 February 2013 - 12:55 PM, said:

idas, on 18 February 2013 - 04:55 AM, said:

a 32 bit version please?

This question has been answered ad nauseam. It won't hurt you to read. Pestering the developer with this question won't make it happen any faster. If you want to see a 32-bit pre-release version so badly, you can pitch in and help make it happen.

Not without the source we can't. I'd love to port this over to Windows RT, but there's no source to port.

[MikeTGW]

I just registered to say Thank You for this.

And also to thank ORelio for developing a GUI for it.

Keep it up

[vjott]

Netham45, on 18 February 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:

Not without the source we can't. I'd love to port this over to Windows RT, but there's no source to port.

Port if over to Windows RT? How are you going to do that? Windows 8 apps are chromeless. What are you going to make transparent/translucent? The background or the tiles or something?

[Netham45]

Desktop apps. There is a jailbreak for Windows RT, and a number of desktop apps for it.

[AlexKven]

bigmuscle, on 18 February 2013 - 12:25 PM, said:

SilverSurfer, on 18 February 2013 - 09:07 AM, said:

Works on my Intel i7 desktop with Nvidia Gforce GTX 580 but doesn't work on my ATI/ AMD on Radeon HD 3200 graphics laptop , could it be the laptops direct X9 verses the desktops direct X11?
I just get the black screen on the laptop and I have to force a laptop to reboot.

You can try playing with DeviceFeatureLevel registry settings. It allows achieving glass effect also on non-supported drivers (and even when no graphics drivers are installed).

Can you tell me how to do this? I am having this same problem, and it is driving me crazy.

[kyolic]

Registered to say thanks. Briliant job!

[dencorso]

Netham45, on 18 February 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

Desktop apps. There is a jailbreak for Windows RT, and a number of desktop apps for it.

All the subsequent off-topic posts about Win RT are now in their own thread, which must be used for that subject.
Further posts about the Win RT jailbreak in this thread will be simply deleted without notice. Thanks!

[bigmuscle]

AlexKven, on 19 February 2013 - 09:41 AM, said:

bigmuscle, on 18 February 2013 - 12:25 PM, said:

You can try playing with DeviceFeatureLevel registry settings. It allows achieving glass effect also on non-supported drivers (and even when no graphics drivers are installed).

Can you tell me how to do this? I am having this same problem, and it is driving me crazy.

Read the topic few pages back. I wrote it in the changelog of some previous release. However, I can't ensure that it will really work. For me, it just fixed crash when no graphics drivers were installed.

[DosProbie]

Hey BigMuscle, I switched up to my older lap running w8 64 with a Radeon hd 3200 , I noticed if I right-click and run as admin with your loader it goes to the black screen and I am then forced
to reboot, But If I just double click the file it does not go to the black screen and makes the aero glass changes.. btw any eta for your next update.. thanks

This post has been edited by DosProbie: 21 February 2013 - 07:15 AM