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Aero Glass for Win8 RC4

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And when Tusticles mentiones the themes thing, does anybody have access to Consumer/Developer preview theme? It looks similar as Release Preview with some details (such as the caption buttons looks more shiny etc.)

I did, and both does not work. It causes DWM to crash and causes the black screen error.

Does it crash even without my aeroglass?

And, let me report an error when using the program with Windows 7's Explorer (Notice the Show Desktop button.) The taskbar uses the inactive window color (the inactive window is slightly white because of the RP theme itself, not the color).

What's wrong with this? Does that explorer really sends (235,235,235) to colorize the taskbar?

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Everything works perfectly, I don't see a single bug occuring with my setup. But this may be because of me not having two or three screens ^^' But yeah, really beautiful, easy to use and stable! (No crash till now). I hope you will continue developing this beautiful piece of software. You really have my thanks! (I will try to donate, but for me it's really difficult to do because I don't have PayPal..)

Here's a screenshot of my current setup:

a4hO9n4.jpg

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on my site Trolls get the ban hammer.

Like this one ? :rolleyes:

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Not to stay too off-topic, tried to use the CustomThemeResource setting and it works well.

Managed to modify Release Preview theme using Windows 7 resources to get this :

Before :

rp8o.png

After :

rp7c.png

Shadow is increased, window borders are more pronounced and the inner edge of window frames is restored.

It's close to windows 7 glass effect, while keeping the RP buttons and square corners. B)

And of course no patching is needed as this is achieved using CustomThemeResource. Thanks BigMuscle :)

Here are the custom resources, each one can be used only with the corresponding theme :

For use with Windows 8 default theme : http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4826/stardard8win7.png

For use with Release Preview theme : http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2064/rpwin7.png

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Tried with version 0.85, same results as before... forcing DX feature 9.3 blurring works but it isn't adjustable...

Because AeroGlass does not support any settings to adjust the blur. Opacity is adjusted by slider in Windows Control panel.

The opacity adjuster in Control Panel's Color Mixer works correctly, yet blurring settings in AGTweaker don't work... maybe I'm wrong and I need some custom theme in order to see blurring around windows' captions (e.g. like in last screenshot posted by Peacem4k3r)?

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Tried with version 0.85, same results as before... forcing DX feature 9.3 blurring works but it isn't adjustable...

Because AeroGlass does not support any settings to adjust the blur. Opacity is adjusted by slider in Windows Control panel.

The opacity adjuster in Control Panel's Color Mixer works correctly, yet blurring settings in AGTweaker don't work... maybe I'm wrong and I need some custom theme in order to see blurring around windows' captions (e.g. like in last screenshot posted by Peacem4k3r)?

The blur around the window text is theme related. You need a special theme for it ;3

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After :

rp7c.png

Shadow is increased, window borders are more pronounced and the inner edge of window frames is restored.

It's close to windows 7 glass effect, while keeping the RP buttons and square corners. B)

And of course no patching is needed as this is achieved using CustomThemeResource. Thanks BigMuscle :)

This looks good. The customer preview had also a bit different captions buttons:

Windows-8-Consumer-Preview-Windows-Defender-MSE-8.png

I'm also thinking of having some default theme for AeroGlass utility. Something like "default value for CustomThemeResource" so when user runs it for the first time, it will change Windows 8 theme to my default. But I guess we can't use any theme from any Win Beta/RC/RTM due to licensing reasons.

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On my site Trolls get the ban hammer.

It seems like everybody is getting on the bannedwagon these days.

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After :

rp7c.png

Shadow is increased, window borders are more pronounced and the inner edge of window frames is restored.

It's close to windows 7 glass effect, while keeping the RP buttons and square corners. B)

And of course no patching is needed as this is achieved using CustomThemeResource. Thanks BigMuscle :)

This looks good. The customer preview had also a bit different captions buttons:

Windows-8-Consumer-Preview-Windows-Defender-MSE-8.png

I'm also thinking of having some default theme for AeroGlass utility. Something like "default value for CustomThemeResource" so when user runs it for the first time, it will change Windows 8 theme to my default. But I guess we can't use any theme from any Win Beta/RC/RTM due to licensing reasons.

I think it's a good idea about custom theme in AeroGlass Utility. I understand licensing reasons, but what about make another theme in the base of some Beta/RC/RTM. It's broke license rights?

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Does it crash even without my aeroglass?

Yes, it does. I not sure why. But, sometimes when starting up my computer when the theme is applied, those dialog boxes about .dll incompatibilities uses the WINDOWS CLASSIC theme. Other times, it reverts back to the last used theme.

What's wrong with this? Does that explorer really sends (235,235,235) to colorize the taskbar?

It might be due to a glitch in your true taskbar blur code, but I'm not sure since I am not good of programming except for batch file programming (if that counts).

Could anyone make a custom theme resource using the features of the Consumer/Developer Preview theme? I realy liked that theme.

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This looks good. The customer preview had also a bit different captions buttons:

http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Windows-8-Consumer-Preview-Windows-Defender-MSE-8.png

I'm also thinking of having some default theme for AeroGlass utility. Something like "default value for CustomThemeResource" so when user runs it for the first time, it will change Windows 8 theme to my default. But I guess we can't use any theme from any Win Beta/RC/RTM due to licensing reasons.

Didn't know about the Consumer Preview theme. I still prefer the RP caption buttons, though :)

I'm not sure about licensing, but Release Preview / Windows 7 themes can be easily downloaded from many sites, so I'm not sure that Microsoft cares about it.

Providing a default theme resource with your utility is a good idea as Windows 8 default theme is not designed at all for Aero and looks imperfect with glass enabled.

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Does it crash even without my aeroglass?

Yes, it does. I not sure why. But, sometimes when starting up my computer when the theme is applied, those dialog boxes about .dll incompatibilities uses the WINDOWS CLASSIC theme. Other times, it reverts back to the last used theme.

What's wrong with this? Does that explorer really sends (235,235,235) to colorize the taskbar?

It might be due to a glitch in your true taskbar blur code, but I'm not sure since I am not good of programming except for batch file programming (if that counts).

Could anyone make a custom theme resource using the features of the Consumer/Developer Preview theme? I realy liked that theme.

Hi WindowsOS

You can tryout this theme

http://nighthawk-f22.deviantart.com/art/Dark-theme-for-Windows8-RTM-324474705

Picture of the theme is here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/95015623@N08/

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It might be due to a glitch in your true taskbar blur code, but I'm not sure since I am not good of programming except for batch file programming (if that counts).

My "taskbar blur" code is nothing special than if explorer says "we don't want blur behind taskbar" I rewrite the message with "we want blur behind taskbar" and when explorer says "enable accent on the taskbar" I rewrite it with "don't enable accent on the taskbar". Nothing special for this.

Providing a default theme resource with your utility is a good idea as Windows 8 default theme is not designed at all for Aero and looks imperfect with glass enabled.

Actually, the default theme can look good when suitable colorization settings is selected.

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I don't know if testing is still needed, but here are my results anyway.

Running win8 x64 on an older laptop with a 8600m GT, using the AGTweaker 1.2.2/DWMHook 0.8 (is that the latest public build?)

Had to fiddle around with rendering modes until it worked - currently working in DX9.1 mode. DX10.0 mode only has two states, opaque and total transparency without blur.

I don't know if it's an AGT bug, but the inactive color doesn't work for me at all, no matter which I choose the inactive color stays black. Taskbar follows active color correctly though.

Also, changing settings for blur/transparency sometimes lead to a black screen after applying them, usually if I do it repeatedly. Looking forward to the finished product.

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I don't know if testing is still needed, but here are my results anyway.

Running win8 x64 on an older laptop with a 8600m GT, using the AGTweaker 1.2.2/DWMHook 0.8 (is that the latest public build?)

Had to fiddle around with rendering modes until it worked - currently working in DX9.1 mode. DX10.0 mode only has two states, opaque and total transparency without blur.

I don't know if it's an AGT bug, but the inactive color doesn't work for me at all, no matter which I choose the inactive color stays black. Taskbar follows active color correctly though.

Also, changing settings for blur/transparency sometimes lead to a black screen after applying them, usually if I do it repeatedly. Looking forward to the finished product.

In the RP theme inactive window color from registry or if change through AGTweaker don't change anithing. But if use standart RTM theme inactive color works,,,

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I am using the RTM theme actually, the inactive color is still stuck at black... or rather, some weird color that varies from black to white depending on the coloring setting I set in the personalizing dialogue. I managed to get the colors to look decent enough for me, for now. The internal builds are probably much further ahead by now anyway so...

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After :

rp7c.png

Shadow is increased, window borders are more pronounced and the inner edge of window frames is restored.

That looks quite good, ORelio.

What tool are you using to edit the resources?

-Noel

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By the way - do You plan adding shadows? Win7 Aero has it.

I'll save BigMuscle the trouble of answering... Drop shadows come from the theme resource list. Windows is currently compositing fully transparent drop shadows for you. Nice of them, eh?

You can add drop shadows yourself by having Aero Glass for Win8 load alternate desktop element resources from a PNG file, the path to which you specify by the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\DWM : CustomThemeResource REG_SZ value.

Win8Desktop.png

Click here to download the alternate theme resource PNG file I've modified.

-Noel

Thanks for this!

But I'm asking for something else- if bigmuscle will sell his aplication (even He don't know it), 'drop shadows' option could be nice addition. If it will be freeware, I won't grumble. It's just an idea to make his work even better ;)

Another idea is adding some 'space' to taskbar and window bar, I mean now they are flat , but have blur and transparency. Adding some 'shine' on the edges of them have some sense (for me). Just like here: http://globalknowledgeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/windows_7_aero_peak2.png

BTW: Now, finally I can run v.85version, with normal transparency and blur (Opacity 50, Blur 60, dx9.3)!

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Thanks for this!

But I'm asking for something else- if bigmuscle will sell his aplication (even He don't know it), 'drop shadows' option could be nice addition. If it will be freeware, I won't grumble. It's just an idea to make his work even better ;)

Another idea is adding some 'space' to taskbar and window bar, I mean now they are flat , but have blur and transparency. Adding some 'shine' on the edges of them have some sense (for me). Just like here: http://globalknowledgeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/windows_7_aero_peak2.png

This is just speculation of course, but, I've used programs in the past (mostly in games) that hook onto DirectX calls and do things like replace textures and shaders, allowing changes to game appearances and sometimes adding new effects not originally apart of the game.

If this program was somehow able to intercept some of the graphics and shaders, would it in theory be possible to not only have a blur effect, but more advanced things like animated water ripple?

Like I say, this is speculation, not suggestion. Even if it was possible (and it probably is not), it may not be desirable because there would be a huge hit to performance and probably stability too.

@BigMuscle - I had a problem leading to a black screen with the charms bar visable (but unusable) while I was updating my GPU driver a couple of days ago. When I update the drivers, I uninstall my driver completely first as it reduced problems I had in the past with leftover files etc.

The Black screen happened when I uninstalled the driver. My guess it that the DX level changes when there is no driver installed, or when a new driver is installed, and DWM does not have a catch to deal with it. So I would recommend people to reboot and hold CTRL while Windows is loading (which doesnt load AeroGlass to memory).

Here is the Debug log: https://www.dropbox.com/s/inzf30tzj2ksksp/debug%2026-Apr-2013.log?m

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After :

rp7c.png

Shadow is increased, window borders are more pronounced and the inner edge of window frames is restored.

That looks quite good, ORelio.

What tool are you using to edit the resources?

-Noel

Resource Hacker. It allows to view/extract/replace resources in exe, dll, msstyles files.

The PNG file you are looking for can be found in the msstyles file at STREAM/983/1033.

Once extracted, you can modify it with any image editor and apply the file with CustomThemeResource registry key.

-- Or place it back in the msstyles file but you need to patch your system to use modified msstyles so bigmuscle's method is better :)

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Whenever I try to add any CustomThemeResource, it never works... I added the String registry key in the right place, with the path definitely right... I'm getting this error a whole bunch of time:

[0x20A4] Failed to load custom theme file (0x80070005)

This has been the issue since the first build which added the option, it never worked... Everything else in the debug log looks fine...

After :

rp7c.png

Shadow is increased, window borders are more pronounced and the inner edge of window frames is restored.

That looks quite good, ORelio.

What tool are you using to edit the resources?

-Noel

Resource Hacker. It allows to view/extract/replace resources in exe, dll, msstyles files.

The PNG file you are looking for can be found in the msstyles file at STREAM/983/1033.

Once extracted, you can modify it with any image editor and apply the file with CustomThemeResource registry key.

-- Or place it back in the msstyles file but you need to patch your system to use modified msstyles so bigmuscle's method is better :)

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In the RP theme inactive window color from registry or if change through AGTweaker don't change anithing. But if use standart RTM theme inactive color works,,,

Try to rename the RP msstyle to aero ;)

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I dont know if it was ever posted.

but one drawback from using this is aincrease in gpu usage, at lest for me it is anyway.

just moving my mouse across a window causes gpu spikes.

stop moving the mouse and gpu usage drops back to down

my specs

nvidia 580 gtx

intel 2600 3.9

mem 16gb

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dskiller: which version do you have? If you have < 0.8 than it can be caused by layered windows hack. If you have 0.8 then 1) you have incompatible DWM DLLs which falls back to layered windows (you can find info in debug log), 2) try enabling native mode (see UseNativeBlur in changelog) to compare if it still happens.

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Aero Glass v0.8 isn't working for me (v0.7 works fine). I get fully transparent window borders without blur. I've tried several DeviceFeatureLevel values.

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 5850

Driver: 9.12.0.0 (Dec 2012)

dwmcore.dll: 6.2.9200.16433

uDWM.dll: 6.2.9200.16420

debug.txt

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