[bigmuscle]

I think this is the business of the concrete theme because hover image is included in the theme sprite. Default Windows 8 theme just don't have it.

[vjott]

xpclient, on 28 January 2013 - 07:20 AM, said:

Btw, what about the glossy caption buttons which glow upon hover? The Windows 8 DWM also ruined those.

Ew, I hate those glossy buttons: there are some visual styles available on DeviantArt that bring back those glossy buttons if you like.

[MrGRiM]

xpclient, on 28 January 2013 - 07:20 AM, said:

Btw, what about the glossy caption buttons which glow upon hover? The Windows 8 DWM also ruined those.

Those are nothing to do with DWM they are to do with the aero.msstyles theme having them removed, same with shadows, DWM has not reduced the shadows, they are images in the msstyles file and they are simply not as strong as Windows 7 shadows, I could increase the shadows with ease just by editing the aero.msstyles file.

@ bigmuscle I tried this on the VM and got it to work OK but ended up having to do a system restore after I could not log on, I just ended up with a blank screen, that doesn't worry me though as this is why I have Windows 8 on the VM, what I would like to know though, is it possible to have the transparent borders with colour but without the blur, I have never been keen on the blur, I prefer to have a custom theme with the desired opacity, if it is possible, could we have the option of turning Blur off?

This post has been edited by MrGRiM: 28 January 2013 - 08:50 AM

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bigmuscle, on 28 January 2013 - 06:18 AM, said:

xaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, on 28 January 2013 - 01:01 AM, said:

But there are some problems when I try to launch it on my desktop (AMD HD4850).

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debug.zip

do you have default settings or do you use any different theme/coloring than the default? debug file is from working or non-working configuration?

I am using the default settings. The debug file is from non-working configuration.

I recognized that AMD HD4850 is a DX10 chipset while Intel HD4000 is a DX11 chipset. Does this difference make sense?

This post has been edited by xaaaaaaaaaaaaaa: 28 January 2013 - 08:55 AM

[bigmuscle]

MrGRiM, on 28 January 2013 - 08:48 AM, said:

@ bigmuscle I tried this on the VM and got it to work OK but ended up having to do a system restore after I could not log on, I just ended up with a blank screen, that doesn't worry me though as this is why I have Windows 8 on the VM, what I would like to know though, is it possible to have the transparent borders with colour but without the blur, I have never been keen on the blur, I prefer to have a custom theme with the desired opacity, if it is possible, could we have the option of turning Blur off?

Yeah, options to set the level opacity and blur radius (0 = disabled) will be available in the future. However, I don't see any reason why it should deny logging in, because this utility does not modify anything in your system. Unless you set to start it with the Windows.

xaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, on 28 January 2013 - 08:54 AM, said:

I am using the default settings. The debug file is from non-working configuration.

I recognized that AMD HD4850 is a DX10 chipset while Intel HD4000 is a DX11 chipset. Does this difference make sense?

Yeah, I'm just playing with some DX10.1 vs DX11 stuff. But I don't understand why it works for DX11 but does not for DX10 in your case, it should be vice versa :-D

[MrGRiM]

bigmuscle, on 28 January 2013 - 09:55 AM, said:

MrGRiM, on 28 January 2013 - 08:48 AM, said:

@ bigmuscle I tried this on the VM and got it to work OK but ended up having to do a system restore after I could not log on, I just ended up with a blank screen, that doesn't worry me though as this is why I have Windows 8 on the VM, what I would like to know though, is it possible to have the transparent borders with colour but without the blur, I have never been keen on the blur, I prefer to have a custom theme with the desired opacity, if it is possible, could we have the option of turning Blur off?

Yeah, options to set the level opacity and blur radius (0 = disabled) will be available in the future. However, I don't see any reason why it should deny logging in, because this utility does not modify anything in your system. Unless you set to start it with the Windows.

xaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, on 28 January 2013 - 08:54 AM, said:

I am using the default settings. The debug file is from non-working configuration.

I recognized that AMD HD4850 is a DX10 chipset while Intel HD4000 is a DX11 chipset. Does this difference make sense?

Yeah, I'm just playing with some DX10.1 vs DX11 stuff. But I don't understand why it works for DX11 but does not for DX10 in your case, it should be vice versa :-D

I was messing with another app from winaero at the same time that also brings back some of the transparency and and also I was playing with another one called system transparency, anyway I tested it again after the restore and it's all working pretty good, one bug I did notice though is if you bring up the jump list on the taskbar it seems to leave some artifacts on the windows border when you hover up and down the list, I had this same problem when testing the one from winaero but running that with system transparency seemed to fix the rendering issues and made it flawless, I had to set the opacity to 254 on system transparency though as it caused some weird ghosting if it was set any lower, anyway mate keep up the great work and here is my debug file from this run if it helps at all.

[bigmuscle]

Just a question, has anyone tried with pure Direct3D 11.0 or 11.1 graphic card and can confirm that it works properly for him? I just want to know whether DWM uses D3D 10.1 for windows drawing in all situations or it is just for compatibility reasons.

[vinifera]

it doesn't matter to be honest
by "vista" standard user needed DX 9 for blur (shader 2)

if you're worried about DX version being used, I don't think there's any disadvantage of 10 being used over 11 for window draw

This post has been edited by vinifera: 28 January 2013 - 05:26 PM

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bigmuscle, on 28 January 2013 - 09:55 AM, said:

MrGRiM, on 28 January 2013 - 08:48 AM, said:

@ bigmuscle I tried this on the VM and got it to work OK but ended up having to do a system restore after I could not log on, I just ended up with a blank screen, that doesn't worry me though as this is why I have Windows 8 on the VM, what I would like to know though, is it possible to have the transparent borders with colour but without the blur, I have never been keen on the blur, I prefer to have a custom theme with the desired opacity, if it is possible, could we have the option of turning Blur off?

Yeah, options to set the level opacity and blur radius (0 = disabled) will be available in the future. However, I don't see any reason why it should deny logging in, because this utility does not modify anything in your system. Unless you set to start it with the Windows.

xaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, on 28 January 2013 - 08:54 AM, said:

I am using the default settings. The debug file is from non-working configuration.

I recognized that AMD HD4850 is a DX10 chipset while Intel HD4000 is a DX11 chipset. Does this difference make sense?

Yeah, I'm just playing with some DX10.1 vs DX11 stuff. But I don't understand why it works for DX11 but does not for DX10 in your case, it should be vice versa :-D

Or， maybe OS version makes any sense？
I am launching Server 2012 on my desktop.

[Thunderbolt 2864]

The download link doesn't seem to work at the moment, its not loading.

[vjott]

Thunderbolt 2864, on 28 January 2013 - 10:12 PM, said:

The download link doesn't seem to work at the moment, its not loading.

Try using Internet Explorer to download the file.

[hb860]

Well, just tried this.
Firefox is constantly flickering, I am unable to use it.
Windows drawing is VERY slow (like software-based DCE in Longhorn 4066/4074).
Sometimes it makes all other windows flickering for a moment.
My OS is Win8 x64 Pro Retail.
Debug log is attached.

Attached File(s)

•  debug.7z (1.22K)
  Number of downloads: 7

[bigmuscle]

Yes, it is slow, because it writes to debug log very often ;-)

Ad firefox. Do you use any plugins? If yes, could you disable them (if possible). I don't use FF at all, but I tried installing clean version and it works without any problems.

Just a message to everyone: if everything is working correctly for you then uploading debug log is useless ;-) it is helpful only in situations when you don't see the blur, crashes etc.

This post has been edited by bigmuscle: 29 January 2013 - 12:31 PM

[evilpro]

bigmuscle, on 29 January 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

Yes, it is slow, because it writes to debug log very often ;-)

Ad firefox. Do you use any plugins? If yes, could you disable them (if possible). I don't use FF at all, but I tried installing clean version and it works without any problems.

Just a message to everyone: if everything is working correctly for you then uploading debug log is useless ;-) it is helpful only in situations when you don't see the blur, crashes etc.

Awesome work, but I'm getting a lot of lags due to the debug version.
Could you maybe upload a sperate version without the log writing?

[vjott]

evilpro, on 29 January 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:

bigmuscle, on 29 January 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

Yes, it is slow, because it writes to debug log very often ;-)

Ad firefox. Do you use any plugins? If yes, could you disable them (if possible). I don't use FF at all, but I tried installing clean version and it works without any problems.

Just a message to everyone: if everything is working correctly for you then uploading debug log is useless ;-) it is helpful only in situations when you don't see the blur, crashes etc.

Awesome work, but I'm getting a lot of lags due to the debug version.
Could you maybe upload a sperate version without the log writing?

He probably won't do that until he can resolve some of the problems people are having. I've come across some queer behaviour with iTunes: the contents of the iTunes window are not displayed, only the border is drawn.

[WindowsOS]

bigmuscle, on 28 January 2013 - 02:04 PM, said:

Just a question, has anyone tried with pure Direct3D 11.0 or 11.1 graphic card and can confirm that it works properly for him? I just want to know whether DWM uses D3D 10.1 for windows drawing in all situations or it is just for compatibility reasons.

It works properly for me.

[hb860]

I will try with new clean profile for FF without any plugins and will post results here.

[bigmuscle]

WindowsOS, on 29 January 2013 - 07:52 PM, said:

bigmuscle, on 28 January 2013 - 02:04 PM, said:

Just a question, has anyone tried with pure Direct3D 11.0 or 11.1 graphic card and can confirm that it works properly for him? I just want to know whether DWM uses D3D 10.1 for windows drawing in all situations or it is just for compatibility reasons.

It works properly for me.

Nice, if you look into the log file, what is your FeatureLevel on line beginning with D3D11CreateDevice ?

[bigmuscle]

vjott, on 29 January 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:

He probably won't do that until he can resolve some of the problems people are having. I've come across some queer behaviour with iTunes: the contents of the iTunes window are not displayed, only the border is drawn.

Is iTunes application downloadable anywhere for free so I can test it?

[ORelio]

Hello,
thanks for the demo it works perfectly for me. No blinking windows.
It's a bit laggy when lots of windows are opened but otherwise, nothing special.
here is my D3D11CreateDevice line in my log :

D3D11CreateDevice (DriverType = 0, Software = 0, Flags = 169, FeatureLevel = B000, device = 0xEC05E398)

Just one thing, would it be possible not to display the popup "Preview Only!!" ? (And the console window ?)
It's a bit annoying if I put the application on windows startup :/

Anyway, good job! I registered expressly to post a reply to your thread

PS: iTunes can be downloaded from there : http://www.apple.com/itunes/
I can confirm that the iTunes window is totally unvisible, there is just a slight shadow over the window edges showing that itunes window is opened
here is a screenshot: http://img203.images...tunesshadow.jpg

This post has been edited by ORelio: 30 January 2013 - 06:34 AM