[Philippeam]

HP Pavilion DV6-6C10US 6G RAM Windows 8 (I had same problem under Windows7)

Cold boot is acceptably fast (10-15sec. to Welcome Screen,no BIOS prompt) but boot after restart takes 3 to 5 minutes and there is a BIOSprompt. I do not understand where the differencecomes from. If more info is needed can Iuse the “BIOS logging” of Windows 8)

Spoiler

Event ID 100 CRITICAL

-

System



-

Provider



[ Name]

Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance



[ Guid]

{CFC18EC0-96B1-4EBA-961B-622CAEE05B0A}



EventID

100



Version

2



Level

1



Task

4002



Opcode

34



Keywords

0x8000000000010000



-

TimeCreated



[ SystemTime]

2013-01-29T22:09:03.425559400Z



EventRecordID

164



-

Correlation



[ ActivityID]

{29342B0B-FE6B-0000-013C-34296BFECD01}



-

Execution



[ ProcessID]

1500



[ ThreadID]

4544



Channel

Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance/Operational



Computer

Philippe-DV6



-

Security



[ UserID]

S-1-5-19



-

EventData



BootTsVersion

2



BootStartTime

2013-01-29T21:54:06.985293900Z



BootEndTime

2013-01-29T22:08:35.561683600Z



SystemBootInstance

14



UserBootInstance

13



BootTime

130308



MainPathBootTime

41450



BootKernelInitTime

30



BootDriverInitTime

917



BootDevicesInitTime

1174



BootPrefetchInitTime

0



BootPrefetchBytes

0



BootAutoChkTime

0



BootSmssInitTime

32003



BootCriticalServicesInitTime

117



BootUserProfileProcessingTime

892



BootMachineProfileProcessingTime

3



BootExplorerInitTime

1972



BootNumStartupApps

51



BootPostBootTime

88858



BootIsRebootAfterInstall

false



BootRootCauseStepImprovementBits

4



BootRootCauseGradualImprovementBits

0



BootRootCauseStepDegradationBits

0



BootRootCauseGradualDegradationBits

0



BootIsDegradation

false



BootIsStepDegradation

false



BootIsGradualDegradation

false



BootImprovementDelta

0



BootDegradationDelta

0



BootIsRootCauseIdentified

true



OSLoaderDuration

111912



BootPNPInitStartTimeMS

30



BootPNPInitDuration

2002



OtherKernelInitDuration

3059



SystemPNPInitStartTimeMS

4949



SystemPNPInitDuration

825



SessionInitStartTimeMS

5887



Session0InitDuration

24891



Session1InitDuration

309



SessionInitOtherDuration

6802



WinLogonStartTimeMS

37890



OtherLogonInitActivityDuration

691



UserLogonWaitDuration

738269

This post has been edited by Tripredacus: 31 January 2013 - 09:34 AM

[cannie]

Philippeam, on 30 January 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

..... Windows 8 (I had same problem under Windows7)....

I felt a similar problem to yours some time ago. In my case all troubles were caused by an almost empty motherboard battery. I only had to replace it and everything went OK.

HTH

[MagicAndre1981]

Quote

UserLogonWaitDuration

738269

Logon is slow. Do you connct to network drives or run group policies?

[Philippeam]

MagicAndré,
1) No your two questions
2) Apologize for the length of the message, my cut and paste did not work the way I thought it would
3) I have upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 8, which I understand may give different results in the boot operations (?). I will have to do a clean install in the future because of that and a few other desktop/metro conflicts, but I just don't have the time now.
4) I now understand that the "cold" boot in W8 is because in fact it is a wake up from hibernation. I assume that when it is a restart, they have to go through the BIOS/UEFI loop (??). In W7 both cold start and restart were slow.
5) I have been trying to find back your tutorial for tracing the boot process. Will it apply to W8
6) There is in W8 an option for Boot logging, would that help?
Based on an old sysinternal I assume, but cannot be sure, that there is some HP health program involved????
Thanks for your help.
Amitiés
Philippe Meyer

[MagicAndre1981]

I've made a guide for Win8, too:

http://www.msfn.org/...bernate-slowly/

Make 2 traces (run the normal boot and the fast boot command) and upload both etl files.

[Philippeam]

Not sure what happened:

1)Started–trace boot: went well gave me two .etl files in C:\TEMP

2)Tryto start -trace hibernate got a message -trace hibernate cannot get started

3)Irestarted the computer and the –trace boot restarted spontaneously leaving twofiles in C:\TEMP

Boot_base+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER_1.cab 2MEG and

Boot_base+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER_1.etl 553 Meg!!

What were my mistakes??

Thanks

[Philippeam]

MagicAndreHope this can help
Philippe Meyer

[MagicAndre1981]

I need the Boot_base+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER_1.etl . Compress it as 7z and upload it. Also run the fastboot command

[Philippeam]

Thanks for your patience Magic Andre.
My stupid mistake was that I never pushed "Finish" on the "Delay for 120 seconds" panel and xbootmgr continued to trace and did not modify the autorun, hence the ginormous files, the impossibility to start another trace and the trace restarting after a restart!
For each trace I got two files one .cab and one .etl I have enclosed all for in the Zip as well as the Xbootmgr logs.
Thanks
Philippe Meyer

[MagicAndre1981]

and where are the files?

[Philippeam]

Magicandre I lack experience with the forum. Just noticed it says "0 bytes of your 500K global upload quota used (Max. file 500K) "but the zip is 92 Mega (the boot .etl is 750 Mega before compression). How can I resolve the issue?
Thanks
P.M.

[MagicAndre1981]

upload it to Skydrive, dropbox or a fast 1 click hoster like zippyshare.com/mediafire.com or rapidshare.com and send me the link via PM

[Philippeam]

https://skydrive.liv...95D9D72F8B9!346

[Philippeam]

https://skydrive.liv...AEByUwkdzU5LcsM

Should be better!!

[MagicAndre1981]

loading the OS loader takes a long time:

osLoaderDuration="111788"

111s is very long. This should only take 2s.

Your HDD is also extremely busy all the time. Make sure you run the HDD in AHCI mode.

[Philippeam]

The HP Laptop Pavilion DV6-6C10US (I think all DV6) does not allow access to that level of BIOS (Locked by HP) and looking the "storahci" in the registry I am pretty sure AHCI is not in use.
Nevertheless I have learned thanks to you quite a few things: How to use MSFN (and I love it), How to use the xbootmgr and I also got the corresponding MS analyser which may help. Strangely I cannot either access the UEFI.(which seems limited on DV6 anyhow, see attached)
I'll work on the issues and will keep you posted.
Many thanks
P.M.

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[Philippeam]

OK MagicAndre
Through test and trial I found the major culprit: it is my external USB 2T external drive WD1021. If I disconnect it we are back to a normal restart time. I cannot explain it but I remarked activity on it during the initial period of the boot as if the BIOS was trying to load the OS from that drive. The BIOS order is Laptop HD first, then DVD/CD drive then USB so I do not understand.
As far as AHCI is concerned I am pretty sure it is not used and I could not verify that the default for the AMD SATA controller is AHCI although some posts seem to suggest it is. The HD is Toshiba MK6476gsx.
So much for tonight
PM

[Philippeam]

MagicAndre here is the new trace boot with the external drive unplugged (and a fast restart). the "press esc for BIOS" disappears nearly immediately instead of staying displayed for several minutes. Do you think you can find what the BIOS is doing with the external drive (used for file history and system image) when it is attached?
Thanks a million.
https://skydrive.liv...APSfIS8DIcyns1A

[MagicAndre1981]

OSlaoder is now fast 2.8s.

But the DISK is still totally busy during boot:

Your Toshiba MK6476GSX 640 GB is simply too slow, because it is only a 5400rpm drive.


Disable Defender and reduce the amount of tools you run all the time to relieve the pressure from the HDD.

[Philippeam]

Thanks. Will do. Also I removed "system protection" from G: (The external HD) and it improved a bit (I don't know why it was ever on for that drive).
Amitiés
P.Meyer