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Sudden shutdown when playing video or Youtube @MagicAndre1981

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:05 PM

It's like the title says, the laptop just randomly shuts down after a few videos on Youtube or a 20-30 min. of video played. I debugged the .dmp files and they are identical. It looks like processor trouble, so I was hoping for some advice. The log of the debugging is attached below in case anyone wants to drop a look.

Thank you for any advice you might be able to provide.

Attached File  Debugged DMP.txt (3.31K)
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:54 PM

View PostSp0iLedBrAt, on 20 February 2013 - 12:05 PM, said:

It looks like processor trouble, so I was hoping for some advice.

CPU or GPU (more likely IMHO) overheating? :unsure:
Can you try with a cooling pad or similar to see if there is a difference (like doubling the time before the shutdown is forced/happens)

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:36 PM

Attached File  second DMP.txt (2.4K)
Number of downloads: 4


That surprised me as well; the CPU fan/sink was recently cleaned thoroughly and the fan is always on. On the heaviest load it goes up to 70 degrees celsius (shutdown happens at 100 according to factory specification).

Thanks Jaclaz for your input.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:13 PM

If you were overclocking, the answer to bugcheck 0x124 would definitely be add more vcore. Maybe the power supply is weak/weakened?

What have you tried so far? (which browser, hardware acceleration...)?

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:58 PM

type !errrec <value of arg2> in WinDbg and look what it tells you.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 09:35 AM

You can test your video card with OCCT:
http://files.extreme.../file.php?f=214

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:19 PM

@GrofLuigi
I've tried Firefox and Chrome Portable; Hardware Acceleration is enabled in Flash. As a player I mostly use MPC - Home Cinema, but no hardware acceleration (DXVA or similar). No overclocking done.

@MagicAndre1981
The last two dumps had different values for arg2, so I did !errrec for both. The results are in the two text files attached here.

@Tripedacus
Thank you, I will try that and also SpeedFan for CPU/HDD temperatures.

Cheers and thank you.

Attached File  second !errrec.txt (2.09K)
Number of downloads: 7

Attached File  first !errrec.txt (2.09K)
Number of downloads: 6

Edit: I'm afraid OCCT will not work because
Attached File  CUDA.png (19.26K)
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:17 PM

you have a L1 Cache issue which be caused by OC or overheating. What is the temperature when you get the crash?

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 04:04 AM

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you have a L1 Cache issue which be caused by OC or overheating. What is the temperature when you get the crash?


The CPU is AMD Turion x2 2.2GHz RM-74 64-bit. It has not been overclocked, and the temperature is around 52-55 Celsius. I recently had it cleaned and the guys at the repair shop rewired the fan to be always on (the laptop has an EFI BIOS and there is such an option, but they didn't use that). Can this be the culprit? If so, they have a piece of my mind coming their way Posted Image

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:01 AM

hm, if the FAN is always on, it should not overheat. Run Prime95 to check if the CPU is stable.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 02:07 PM

Sorry for not replying promptly.

I ran Prime95 on the most stressful settings; the CPU got to 94 degrees and it stayed there for a while. Then I plugged in the external cooling and got it down to 88 degrees. It stayed like that for almost an hour. Below is a screenshot in comparison with CPUID Hardware Monitor.
Attached File  2.png (41.67K)
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Meanwhile, there was another shutdown and the same error, but a different arg2 value. I'm also attaching the !errrec log.
Attached File  three.txt (1.94K)
Number of downloads: 3


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:56 PM

I have no idea what this unknown error could be.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:52 PM

Can this help?
Attached File  four.txt (1.94K)
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:09 PM

A quick update: I found this site http://superuser.com...code-0x00000124 and I found Andre in it; there was also a sub-link http://www.sevenforu...stop-0x124.html where cluberti lead the discussion. They both describe my problem in details, both with the CPU and the laptop make, HP.

Anyway, I reduced Maximum processor state to 90% (as proposed in the first link) and I'll see what happens. Meanwhile, I'm open to any other suggestion anyone might have.

Cheers and thanks

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:22 PM

I had a friend who had the same model and the problem was overheating. I believe the fan is on the bottom, so if it doesn't get any circulation, it will shutdown. I used some boards to prop it up while I was fixing it. He still has it and haven't had any problems since. I thought it was the memory, we ended up buying replacements to find out that wasn't the problem. I still have the ram also, brand new, still in the package. Hope this is the case for you.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:07 PM

I hope so too, although for the past 2 days it's been sitting on the cooling fan surface, namely this http://www.targus.co...aptop+Chill+Mat (not plugged in), and still there were two shutdowns.
I'll see what I can do about it.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:20 PM

try if RMClock works with your CPU and here you can reduce the max frequency. Maybe this helps.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 02:14 AM

Have you tried to take the back cover of the laptop completely off to see if there might be "dust bunnies" clogging the airflow passages up? It never hurts to do some housecleaning occasionally.

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