Jeez, I go away for a few hours and all he!! breaks loose!
Trying now to get up to speed on what happened, but there is very little hard information from the moderators that I can even find.
First of all, I am not a mod here so I am not privy to the backchannel discussion that has occurred. It would be nice if they would explain What problem has been brought to their attention and by who
? Informing the members helps to prevent incorrect speculation.
One big question is this: Is there external pressure being applied on MSFN or is this completely an in-house matter?
The answer is key to journalistic integrity and as it stands I see no way to answer it.
Another item is this: What is this slavish paradigm of trying to keep all threads completely on-topic ( whatever that means )?
I have said before
that doing this 99% makes sense with those targeted, highly focused specific discussion threads, but not all
. Why this is so weird is precisely because the name of the thread "Windows 8 - Deeper Impressions
" is not one of those focused topics. Furthermore, is "on-topic" defined by the thread OP? If so, why can't Jorge simple modify the thread title to "Windows 8 - Deeper Impressions
" adding a subtitle of "... and related controversy and rants
" ( or similar ) to satisfy this urge to stay "on-topic". This begs the question however, if that alone is not sufficient, then something larger must be afoot, correct?It makes absolutely no sense at all for that thread to be anywhere else except for in the Windows 8 forum
. None! It contains tons of information from the Beta to present. And we are left with the odd case where "First Impressions" is still in the original location. Furthermore, that is a very active thread in both Views and Posts. I cannot see the detailed statistics but it must rank up there in the top ten most active. This generates real traffic and site views which aids Google page-rank, and it is feeding lots of topical red meat into Google subject searches. This is not normally considered a bad thing. So what possible reason justifies burying such a thread?
Obviously there is activity taking place behind the scenes. Many boards are administered in quasi-democratic fashion ( perhaps weighting votes from moderators according to seniority or privilege ), so: Was there some kind of voting going on?
Maybe you can just inform us if '3 out of 5 moderators wanted it closed' or whatever. Or much more troubling, Is there a rogue moderator ( or sponsoring member or whatever ) that is causing needless trouble and controversy?
This is Xper
's forum so he ultimately decides what goes, so these are obviously just friendly questions and suggestions. But I sure wish Xper would just state here what his thinking is on this matter.
After all, ultimately it is his reputation that can suffer, either from incorrect speculation because of the lack of information given, or when there is absolutely needless
drama from his "staff" causing trouble in the first place.To Xper
, I'm not sure it has ever been discussed here, and I might regret even bringing this up, but I think the Moderators and supervisors really should disclose their affiliation ( if any ) to Microsoft
. IMHO, this is an incredibly pertinent issue ( and it is not only about Microsoft, because if threads were bashing Firefox or Apple, then affiliation with those companies would also be relevant ). For example, If Microsoft employees were allowed to moderate threads that criticize Microsoft, that would be an undeniable conflict of interest
, with respect to the concept of journalism ( the general definition, but not necessarily the modern "free press" ). Again, it is your forum, but speaking for myself I would definitely be disapproving of any moderators who didn't recuse themselves from an obvious conflict of interest. It would really offend me because it tells me they are loyal first to their real employer rather than my board, and I could never really trust such a person.
But again, here I am wildly speculating, and it is precisely because of the lack of information! I hope that Xper
steps in and clarifies whether this is a mountain or a mole hill. Especially in this day and age where other sites will pounce on it if Microsoft is seen as influencing free speech. You will actually be doing Microsoft a favor by clearing up the controversy.EDIT:
Edited by CharlotteTheHarlot, 26 February 2013 - 09:30 AM.