How to edit registry so that it doesn't need to restart before ins Post XP Pro w/SP3 repair/install
Posted 08 March 2013 - 08:42 AM
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Would that be an option to fix that registry that is kind of dysfunctional? Any more dysfunction and I'll have to take it to a psychiatrist for help. LOL
Posted 08 March 2013 - 09:59 AM
Now, back to your PREVIOUS post. If you integrated EXACTLY like I said, you would have already HAD the Latest Windows Update Agent.
WindowsUpdateAgent7.6.7600.256.cabGenerated from THIS
WindowsUpdateAgent30-x86.exeMethod created by
:: Windows Update Agent by [u][i][b]submix8c[/b][/i][/u]! :: WUA files info courtesy of ricktendo64 and 5eraph :: SFX and XVI32 info courtesy of WildBill :: PARTCOPY (split) info courtesy of jaclaz and dencorsoSURELY you didn't move ALL "CAB files"!
AGAIN, have you even TRIED any of the "clean it up" Links I gave, in PARTICULAR (from Post#30)
Go to "Let me fix it myself" and SKIP Step#11 (you SHOULD already have that Slipstreamed). BE CAREFUL and follow instructions TO THE LETTER or you could be a goner! <---DO THIS!
Side question - WHAT is the EXACT message you get? Post#14
AND... a REAL silly!
Go to Start->Run-> and enter: msoobe /a <---- DO THIS and report back
to see if you're "activated".
That EXACT MESSAGE!
BTW, try turning OFF Auto-Update (THAT'S "for fun").
Big Giant Addendum! -
Per the Picture you FINALLY posted! HOLY KRUD!! That's NOT the "Update Agent! That's a NEWER version of "Windows Installer"! http://www.microsoft...ls.aspx?id=8483
THIS is why I said DO NOT install ANYTHING beyond Repair Install AFTER the FULL INTEGRATION! From the Picture, I see ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in that folder as for as KBxxx Fixes that you DO NOT ALREADY HAVE OR IS SUPERSEDED BY A NEWER ONE! (picture does NOT list everything - Defender is GARBAGE and is SUPERSEDED by MS Security Essentials!)
Is THAT the Message you REPEATEDLY get? THE EXACT MESSAGE??? Is THAT why you KEEP trying to install it? That's the ORIGINAL MESSAGE? BEFORE you tried to instalI it? f so, STOP IT and do the MS FIX LINK ABOVE!!! Clean its "Microsoft Update" brains!
Also, do you get ANY error when attempting to open the Windows Media Player REGARDLESS of what "version" you THINK you have? Do NOT use the Desktop link! USE THIS
Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> Entertainment -> Windows Media Player
We'll NEVER get to the bottom of this if you keep doing "extra stuff" and NOT doing "do this stuff"! That is NOT the way to do Problem Analysis (introducing new Variables)! We NEED TO KNOW what XP THINKS is Pending (if ANYTHING after Repair Install with Integrated)!
(submix8c <-stupidly persistent)
edit - P.S. It could be something OTHER than MS software (not knowing if that was the ORIGINAL error) that is "stuck" in your TEMP folder.
This post has been edited by submix8c: 08 March 2013 - 10:00 AM
Posted 08 March 2013 - 10:36 AM
Yes to this comment! Don't use them.
The only way registry cleaners can ever be considered safe is if you know exactly how to back up your registry hives and also know how to restore them. What I mean by "registry hives" is the files in native binary form, not a registry export. Registry exports are useful for many things, but on Windows NT versions they cannot be used to recreate your registry in binary form ( on Win9x yes, but with caveats on large registries ). Windows NT has ACLs that are not exported. So saving the entire set of binaries is the only sure method of backing it up.
Some of the registry cleaners do give the ability to merely create a list of items to be changed without actually changing them. I find those useful for audit purposes, but never allow them to do anything. Changes are made manually later after carefully examining every one of their suggested "improvements".
Posted 08 March 2013 - 10:56 AM
I'm unsure if it WILL delete them IF you do it from BOOT to the CD method. AFAICR, I used the ALTERNATIVE method (Running OS). Look BACK to the MichaelStevens link I gave.
Side note: There should be absolutely NOTHING (Updates) showing in "Add or Remove Programs" with "Show Updates" checked under "Windows XP"(?). ( the ? is because I'm currently running my Server and it lists as such...)
Download the attached, Unzip it "somewhere" and run BOTH "BAT" files. Zip the TXT-file Outputs (two of them) and attach BOTH ZIP files in your next post. All these will do is do a DIR for "C:\Windows\" "$NT*.*" + "$HF*.* folders AND the LOG files "*.LOG".
Note - for YOU to Attach your ZIP'ed files (two of them), use the "Use Full Editor" (under "Fast Reply"), use the "Browse" and select each file then click "Attach This File" then click "Add to Post", one-by-one.
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:03 AM
EDITED to include those 2 zip files attached below:
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The System jpge... which I could have gotten by right clicking on My Computer on desktop. Or AIDA32 I think has a very big section on what's what.
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I've actually have had this problem as far back as the end of Jan, 30th and if you see the registry backups there in early Feb was when I was still having some place to "Go back" to.
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This post has been edited by Gibbs: 08 March 2013 - 12:36 PM
Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:25 AM
I found THIS after googling
"the system must be restarted before installing" "to allow some prior update"It APPEARS that you tried to do THIS - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 (the not-so-latest Windows Update Agent - OUR "Add-On" is the LATEST, in SPITE of what you may think). Might I note that it DOES have a SECOND method instead of ATTEMPTING to install this. It CLEARLY indicates your Windows Update is screwed up.
edit - (sigh...) The lists clearly indicate that the files were NOT cleared out.
Do this - Do NOT do the "Boot to CD Repair" (First MichaelStevens method). Do the SECOND one (Alternate).
ALSO - WTH are all of those LOG files dated 2013, ESPECIALLY those listed YESTERDAY and TODAY??? SURELY you're not trying to INSTALL that stuff from your "Updates" Folder (seen in the Picture)??? NONONONONO!!!! Redo the Repair Install and DO NOT - REPEAT - DO NOT install ANYTHING else!!!! You are stabbing in the dark and NOT following instructions!
DO THE BELOW NOW AND NOTHING ELSE!
BEFORE we go any further I need to know EXACTLY what OS you have installed (at THIS moment). DO NOTHING ELSE until you do THIS -
1 - Go to "Control Panel" and select "System"/the "General" tab.
2 - Press the "Print Screen" key on your keyboard.
3 - Go to "Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> Paint"
4 - Select from the "Edit" button "Paste"
5 - Select "Save As", enter the name "SYSTEM"
6 - Using the Pull-Down below the name, select "As Type = JPEG"
7 - Click "Save" (will be in your "My Pictures")
8 - On YOUR ABOVE post, Edit it and ATTACH the "SYSTEM.JPG"
I'll wait.... (tired of making NEW posts...)
@charlotte - I appreciate it, BUT we are ATTEMPTING to un-bollox this PC without "tossing" anything whatsoever. It's the method I've used multiple times to "upgrade" my NT-OS's (alternate method of "fix"). Repair Install (OP's way) In-Place Upgrade (my/Alternate way).
After searching, it APPEARS you started having this problem about 5 days ago -
This post has been edited by submix8c: 08 March 2013 - 12:18 PM
Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:49 AM
ERUNT gets a thumbs up as does his ( Lars Hederer ) NtRegOpt registry defragging utility. You do have to watch the output carefully to make sure that ERUNT successfully gets all the hives without any error messages. I have never personally used ERUNT to actually restore the registry, nor do I even know the method, but I assume by now he has figured it out or else we would have heard about it.
The manual fallback method is either to boot with a LiveCD containing its own operating system and manually copy the files into Windows\System32\Config, or take out the HDD and do the same from another computer.
Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:22 PM
BTW, I started doing a GOOGLE search way back in Feb looking for solutions to the problem of something needing to finish or update, file or program, before I could install MS Programs. All I wanted to do was re-install Media Player 11 back on my system to watch a paid for TV program using Amazon UnBox, which requires Media Player 11. I could not, no matter how many times I restarted my computer. I "thought" it was included in SP3, and when I tried to install that, even though I already have SP3 running, even it would not install. Even at work I've installed SP3 on computer as they ran and it took fine. THEN I thought I would do a reinstall of XP Pro with SP3 slipstreamed in there to correct the error, or "HOPE" they would wipe out the call for the file/program to restart before any MS programs could be installed. What happened then was I lost IE 8, with my settings and add on's like WOT, Amazon Save To Wish List, and IE Spell. Not only that, I lost the calendar function of the System Restore and no more restore points or calendar showed up. At least Now, for the first time in many weeks I have IE8 working again, and links in the email that you could click on and open a browser will now work. Until a few days ago, nothing. Links in Outlook Express and my email fetcher POP Peeper would show nothing was hyperlinked. Not even HTML images appeared in POP Peeper, like they used to, but did appear in Outlook Express.
So, for what I now have I do truly thank you all, especially submix8c
This post has been edited by Gibbs: 08 March 2013 - 02:45 PM
Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:37 PM
Relevant LOG files (why I asked about UPDATES)...
Provide the Snapshot AND the Make/Model of your PC! We could be spinning our wheels here!
edit - HANG LOOSE!!!! Need to go get grandkids (walking) - about 1/2 hr...
This post has been edited by submix8c: 08 March 2013 - 12:46 PM
Posted 08 March 2013 - 01:01 PM
Too bad you don't have TeamViewer or else you could just take a look at the system.
This is an ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 motherboard with 3 HD, 4GB RAM, and an AMD Phenom II X4 955 Quad Core processor running. Except with FAT32, or at least with XP, only 1 core is useable.
Posted 08 March 2013 - 03:02 PM
This (55276-000) says that's an XP SP2 Pro Upgrade (yours - 55276-013). What's the Volume Label say? Same as found on that page (VRMPCCP_EN)? This says Win9x is valid for Upgrade. I honestly have never seen a Retail Full with that in it.
ALTHOUGH this indicates it MIGHT be a Full retail.
TeamViewer (free) won't work for me - I run Server.
OK, IF you did EXACTLY what I said (nLite and associated files - NOTHING ELSE ) AND you run the Burned CD from Running Window and select UPGRADE then it SHOULD fix you. I have NO CLUE why you keep coming up with MediaPlayer10 on your desktop. You should see NO Logs in the Windows Directory related to KBxxx, WMSETUPxxxx, IE(anything) and ALL of the "$NTx" folders, the "$hf_mig$" folder, and the "ServicePackFiles" folder in the "Windows" directory should DISAPPEAR!!!
Do the Repair this way (my way). BEFORE you do, disconnect from the Internet (unplug from the PC) and ENABLE Automatic Updates. AFTER the Run, DISABLE Automatic Updates and reconnect to the Internet. Let me know IF the above conditions have been met then get back with me.
This may be your last chance (from me, anyway) since I will have to log out later and won't be back until Sunday Evening.
Note - the Install SHOULD allow for "Upgrade" - watch what is on the screens!
When you use the Command Prompt and "CD x:\I386" (x is you CD drive) then "x:" (to fully change) a Winnt32 execution is also possible.
x:\I386\winnt32 /dudisable /makelocalsource /syspart:c: /tempdrive:c: /unattend:x:\I386\winnt.sifUse the ABOVE in a Command Prompt, changing the "x" to your CD/DVD drive letter. It, in effect, does the same thing as the Upgrade link (but I like it better).
edit - It SHOULD support TWO of the Cores of a QuadCore...
This post has been edited by submix8c: 08 March 2013 - 03:05 PM
Posted 08 March 2013 - 03:18 PM
Perhaps that might explain it?? So, just try running an upgrade within a working windows and see what happens. Honestly, because of the fact that it kept seeing some sort of file to finish installing requiring a restart I thought a repair/install would eliminate that and overwrite any pending restart ques. I was wrong. In doing so, without first uninstalling IE8 I ended up badly with no IE, and still had that difficulty with the recurring ask for restart. I did run ESET Nod32 AV ver. 6 a few days ago and did a more thourough seach and it found a boot sector virus and removed it. Since it runs all the time I am not sure how that ended up in there to begin with.
This post has been edited by Gibbs: 08 March 2013 - 03:18 PM
Posted 08 March 2013 - 03:33 PM
(sigh... lacking crucial information... also explains the PID value...)
Be aware that if you keep this up that Product Key entered MAY not continue to Validate and you'll have to call Microsoft and explain to them. "Windows Genuine Advantage"...
(note - I have no clue as to whether Academic will repeatedly Validate - Remember the "msoobe /a" command you never responded to?)
Edit - find and EMPTY all "TEMP" folder contents (NOT the Folder) in Safe Mode. Also get CCLEANER, install, and run it to clear out all of the "garbage" - UNCHECK "Delete Log Files" - we need that to ENSURE your "Upgrade" worked properly.
Betting ESET "thinks" you had a "boot sector virus" IF you "attempted" a Win7 Install (different Boot Sector). Booting from the CD into Recovery Console and running "fixmbr" should recreate it properly.
DO IT NOW!!! ALL OF IT - UPGRADE LAST!!! FROM WINDOWS!!!
This post has been edited by submix8c: 08 March 2013 - 03:39 PM
Posted 08 March 2013 - 04:06 PM
I clicked "start" "run" and typed in msoobe /a and got this error: "Windows cannot find 'msoobe' maker sure you typed the name correctly, and then try again..... then some info on using "search".
It is activated though.
Here are some quick .txt files I exported from System Information... In one it shows blaster, referring to Sound Blaster, which I no longer have that sound card in the computer, but use the sound device off the MB.
I also had a LOT of issues with Filestream's Turbo Backup ver 7 and 9. It was having an issue with Visual C++ and created an unexected stop/ or error. So I downloaded Visual C++ in the 2005 and 2008 version installed and uninstalled both of them. And even eventually uninstalled both TurboBackup ver 7 and Ver 9. Figured I would get it configured when I got the other issues resolved.
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 04:21 PM
%systemroot%\system32\oobe\msoobe /a"But since you're activated, no need as it will only do the same thing ("You are already activated" popup window).
Cleanup old stuff later. Interesting about the SoundBlaster. Shouldn't have existed at all for ANY XP version (you said you Upgraded from XP Home).
Proceed with what I said to do. I'll keep my PC up for a SHORT while - g-kids driving me/wife nutz! Going to crack a brew... She REALLY wants me to shut down - so better do it now, dude!
edit - why are you still here? nothing to add from me UNTIL you do what I said and report back.
This post has been edited by submix8c: 08 March 2013 - 04:31 PM
Posted 08 March 2013 - 06:34 PM
EDIT: Had a bit of a problem as when I started to do an "upgrade" it found something that prevented it from continuing. It was WindowsPowerShell ver. 1.0 Found it in the registry, and found it in c:\windows\system32\Windows Power Shell\ - folder. No uninstall for it, in fact MS says it can't be uninstalled. So I did the next best thing. I exported the registry key and sub keys of PowerShell and then deleted it. Then I renamed the folder and moved the entire folder out of System32 folder an put in in C:\ and then in the "Startup" menu it was displayed, but clicking on one of the text info's did nothing but try to search. I deleted the startup folder and retried the repair... which is now going as it should.
One other thing. There was a program awaiting finishing, and it said to log off and log back in. I did that and got that default rolling hills with "some' of my icons and there were programs that finished out in there. Then I clicked Restart and booted back up and put the CD in and is now running the "upgrade".
Also you said: "OK, fine.... That Product Key can only be used ONCE according to the MS Eula. In addition, you have REPEATEDLY stated it was SP2 Pro (which it is not) You MUST have slipped SP2 into it at some point. " I couldn't remember saying that "repeatedly" and looked back using CTRL+F which give me Find. SP2 is mentioned 3 times on page 1.. in your posts, and 4 times in page 3.... in your posts. Yes, at one time I had slipstreamed SP2 into a CD with the original CD, using the old method ..by hand. IE copy to a folder named OS/BOOT and then using the Run command literally slipstream in the SP2 into that folder "ROOT". I had an ISO that I got from TackTech and used Nero 5.5 to bun the ISO image onto CD, using the manual instructions on TackTech website. I did build this new CD using the original SP1 CD and the network (large file) SP3. I have used this in updating the computer at work to SP3 from just the one large file. We were on satellite and bandwidth was precious and we could, as well as here at home when we had Hughes.net, could get dinged for too much download in a given 24 hr period.
Funny thing is now that it is done, IE 8 works but the icon is
I thought at least with MP10 COMPLETELY uninstalled... I mean there wasn't even files in the Windows Media Player folder, that the one to be there would be version 11.
Makes me wonder if I can slipstream the install into a boot disk and install it before anything else has a chance to interfere with it?
This post has been edited by Gibbs: 08 March 2013 - 11:34 PM
Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:41 AM
From the bat file itself it says: wget --tries=10 --retry-connrefused --waitretry=10 ftp://ftp.microsoft....OOLS/CABARC.EXE
if not exist CABARC.EXE echo Downloading from Microsoft failed. Using mirror... && echo. && wget --tries=10 --retry-connrefused --waitretry=10 "http://www.cacgroup.cz/podpora/ftp/Software/wxpreskit/Support Tools/cabarc.exe"
I believe that is a ftp server site in Czechoslovakia. Anyway, the batch file finished and has all those cab files and compressed folders in it now. I can copy that intire folder over into my OS folder on my C/ drive and work from there, removing those files that are not supposed to be included since they reference Windows Media Player 9, or 10. Those 5 files I am to replace in there, are for the Media Player 11 files, correct? I have yet to find out all those file names, or a place to grab them.
Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:57 AM
Posted 09 March 2013 - 10:07 AM
Posted 09 March 2013 - 11:02 AM
WHY are you making US do all of the footwork? We give instructions, You follow (footwork).
First, I'm betting you are NOT getting the LATEST files (even IE8 has an OLDER version).
Second, you've NOT followed my instructions "to the letter" as I have REPEATEDLY told you to do.
Third, if YOUR PC was having problems connecting, then YOUR PC has a REAL problem?
Post #56 and Post #57 above are also causing more confusion for me. Did you NEVER run -X- BAT file (Post #57) and Integrate? From reading them AND -X- post, it basically says you NEVER Integrated MP11 since you WOULDN'T have had those FIVE files until NOW!!! AND I did NOT say those were "they reference Windows Media Player 9, or 10", I SPECIFICALLY said they were MULTI-MediaPlayer (9,10, AND 11) and -X- STRIPS the 10,11 OUT since SP3 INCLUDES ONLY MP9 and NLITE GETS CONFUSED WITH MULT-VERSION-FIX-FILES and the MP11 INTEGRATOR DOES IT INSTEAD (doe s NOT get confused).
You are (apparently?) FREAKING over the fact that CABARC may be download from OTHER than MS - the FACT is that SOMETIMES the MS site FAILS so rather than KILL the BAT process, an ALTERNATE was found. Indeed, a NEWER CABARC is obtained FURTHER DOWN to "generate" the LATEST "Windows Update Agent".
You are NOT reading the posts! You are confusing the WHOLE PROCESS! Are you or are you NOT going to follow ALL instructions AS GIVEN? We will TRY to explain EVERYTHING LATER instead of PIECEMEAL! I have other things I could do, like finish learning/testing SYSPREP.
Crucial info left out again - XP SP1 manually slipped... Without a COMPLETE description of a Problem (symptoms etc) WITHOUT doing ANYTHING ELSE to change the Parameters -AND- the ORIGINAL SOURCE and ACTUAL PC it makes it REAL HARD to help, ESPECIALLY if you haphazardly do stuff OTHER THAN what was SPECIFICALLY SPECIFIED!
POST #59 - "Add the SP3 first, of course, then the IE8 one step, add the UDC-02.12.13 files, add the MP11, and add those 3 IE8 files" - NO NO NO NO NO! WRONG ORDER! Go BACK and READ AGAIN!!! You are IGNORING ME!!!! You were given EXACT STEPS! Do you IGNORE CAKE-MAKING INSTRUCTIONS TOO?
As for the REPLACEMENT files, I SAID to use the Windows Explorer View Details - you could FURTHER go to
-Tools->Folder Options General Tab - tick "Classic"->View Tab->
--"Display the contents of system folders" - YES
--"Show hidden files and folders" - YES
--"Hide extensions for known file types" - NO
--"Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)" - NO (click OK)
-Click "Apply" and the "Apply to All Folders"
See? The -X- ones are Generated CABS (Add-Ons) and have ONLY the MP9-part inside (not the FULL FIX). I SAID THAT!!! (wow!!!)
DO WHAT WAS TOLD or I'm out!!! BUILD ACCORDING TO INSTRUCTIONS (no argument/comment/alterations) and THEN run the Upgrade! (Just for fun I will GO AHEAD AND HORK AN INSTALL just to see if it DOES work, and I'm BETTING it will!)
This post has been edited by submix8c: 09 March 2013 - 11:14 AM