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Hi everyone, I'm starting this topic because I have a strange problem.. I created my personal Windows 8 ISO, with all the updates and office 2013 integrated, used wintoolkit and winreducer to remove the things I don't need and rebuilt my iso.. If i install my ISO in virtualbox as it is, everything is fine, but since I have to put it in a fat32 USB stick and my install.wim is 6.5GB, i have to split it.. i use the command:

Dism /Split-Image /ImageFile:C:\install.wim /SWMFile:C:\install.swm /FileSize:4096

But when I try to install the new ISO, it gives me an error (Windows cannot find the Microsoft Software License Terms. Make sure the installation sources are valid and restart the installation).. am I doing something wrong?

Thanks in advance!

Edited by carlese, 03 April 2013 - 06:40 AM.



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Use Rufus no need to split image

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when i boot my pendrive using no split image in ntfs it says "disk read error, ctrl alt canc to reboot".. i used windows 8 usb maker and the windows7 download tool.. haven't tried rufus yet..

Edited by carlese, 03 April 2013 - 07:15 AM.


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when i boot my pendrive using no split image in ntfs it says "disk read error, ctrl alt canc to reboot".. i used windows 8 usb maker and the windows7 download tool.. haven't tried rufus yet..

Let's try and separate the issues, OK ? :unsure:
If for any reason you *need* FAT32 you need "split" files.
The .swm files are "relatives" to .wim files but you cannot make a "set" of install .iso's with "partial" .swm files AFAIK. on a USB stick.
This is usually the reference:
http://technet.micro...y/hh825096.aspx

What exactly are you doing after having created the .swm files?
Are you rebuilding more .iso's?

But when I try to install the new ISO,

Or where are you placing the various .swm files on the stick? (they should go in \source\)
More generally if you could describe with more detail what you did, it would help. :)
Ia m not at all sure to have understood what you tried. :w00t:

If for any reason you cannot boot your stick if it has a single partition NTFS formatted (but you do want to have it NTFS) it could be BOTH an easily solvable problem (re-partition/format with Rufus or RMPREPUSB or some of the other "specific" tools) or a limitation of your specific BIOS (very rare nowadays, but you never know), which may need some manual tweaking.

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when i boot my pendrive using no split image in ntfs it says "disk read error, ctrl alt canc to reboot".. i used windows 8 usb maker and the windows7 download tool.. haven't tried rufus yet..

Let's try and separate the issues, OK ? :unsure:
If for any reason you *need* FAT32 you need "split" files.
The .swm files are "relatives" to .wim files but you cannot make a "set" of install .iso's with "partial" .swm files AFAIK. on a USB stick.
This is usually the reference:
http://technet.micro...y/hh825096.aspx

What exactly are you doing after having created the .swm files?
Are you rebuilding more .iso's?

But when I try to install the new ISO,

Or where are you placing the various .swm files on the stick? (they should go in \source\)
More generally if you could describe with more detail what you did, it would help. :)
Ia m not at all sure to have understood what you tried. :w00t:

If for any reason you cannot boot your stick if it has a single partition NTFS formatted (but you do want to have it NTFS) it could be BOTH an easily solvable problem (re-partition/format with Rufus or RMPREPUSB or some of the other "specific" tools) or a limitation of your specific BIOS (very rare nowadays, but you never know), which may need some manual tweaking.

jaclaz


Ok so let me explain better.. I split the image and put it in sources folder, fat32 stick, but when I install it in VM it gives me error (license error or something like that).. So I tried to use a single install .wim. (only an image in it) ntfs stick, but it gives me the disk error.. I tried with Rufus and diskpart but no luck.. My mobo is gigabyte p43t-es3g,i dont think the bios is uefi.. How can I solve the problem with ntfs bootable usb? It would be great cause I don't like fat32 limitations..

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How can I solve the problem with ntfs bootable usb? It would be great cause I don't like fat32 limitations..

Try first thing with RMPREPUSB.
http://www.rmprepusb...mprepusb-manual
You want to select "C: 2 PTns" (making a fake second partition seemingly helps with some BIOSes):
http://www.rmprepusb...---Recommended-
You may also want to test your stick before with the included in RMPREPUSB test utility:


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How can I solve the problem with ntfs bootable usb? It would be great cause I don't like fat32 limitations..

Try first thing with RMPREPUSB.
http://www.rmprepusb...mprepusb-manual
You want to select "C: 2 PTns" (making a fake second partition seemingly helps with some BIOSes):
http://www.rmprepusb...---Recommended-
You may also want to test your stick before with the included in RMPREPUSB test utility:


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no luck even with this program.. i tried the 2PTNS mode, the LBA mode but nothing.. always disk read error.. my usb is ok, i always use it to install my ISO.. it seems that something is wrong with NTFS file system..

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ok, here are the news.. i tried my usb stick on another pc (notebook this time) and it booted to the windows 8 setup.. so what is the problem? my bios??? i don't know what is going on..

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ok, here are the news.. i tried my usb stick on another pc (notebook this time) and it booted to the windows 8 setup.. so what is the problem? my bios??? i don't know what is going on..

Yes it is possible.
Can you post the make/model of the PC that "fails" and the make/model of the USB stick?

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ok, here are the news.. i tried my usb stick on another pc (notebook this time) and it booted to the windows 8 setup.. so what is the problem? my bios??? i don't know what is going on..

Yes it is possible.
Can you post the make/model of the PC that "fails" and the make/model of the USB stick?

jaclaz


My PC specs are:

MoBO: GIGABYTE P43T-ES3G (REV. 1.3) BIOS F7 (F8 gives me problems with overclock)
SSD: Samsung 840 Basic 250GB
HDD: WDD 250GB
Bios setting: AHCI

USB is a Transcend JetFlash 8GB

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Win8 Does NOT allow split wim file installation....

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Win8 Does NOT allow split wim file installation....


yes i know.. that's why i tried ntfs but it gave me disk read error..

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Hi everyone, I'm starting this topic because I have a strange problem.. I created my personal Windows 8 ISO, with all the updates and office 2013 integrated, used wintoolkit and winreducer to remove the things I don't need and rebuilt my iso...


Have you tried using a full clean image without removing components?
For Windows 7 OS: SetProductKey.rar (fr-FR/en-US. Integrate keys).

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Hi everyone, I'm starting this topic because I have a strange problem.. I created my personal Windows 8 ISO, with all the updates and office 2013 integrated, used wintoolkit and winreducer to remove the things I don't need and rebuilt my iso...


Have you tried using a full clean image without removing components?


yes.. tried it before.. the strange thing is that, as i said before, i am able to boot from usb on my notebook, but not on my PC.. same usb, same image, same tweaks..

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There could be several different issues.
First one could be the size of the stick (but if it works with FAT32 this is not possible).
Second could be some "strange" incompatibility of the BIOS with the NTFS bootsector (or with the partition ID of 07 in the partition table).

Are you familiar with using a disk/hex editor? (I need to know this if further tests are to be made=

Get this thingy here Clonedisk:
http://labalec.fr/erwan/?page_id=42

Click on the Tool tab, then Partition Table Editor, choose the USB stick (if you have a SSD and a HD it will be most probably \\.\PhysicalDrive2), you should see the first two lines filled with partition data, and the last two empty/all 00's.
The first line will have 07 as type, change it to 0C.
Save the edited partition table and reboot.
Try connecting the USB stick to a port "on the back" of the PC (i.e. one of those directly soldered to the motherboard) and NOT on one of the "front" ones, and try booting again.
Your motherboard most probably has a "hot key" to change boot order, you should try booting form the USB stick BOTH with USB set as primary boot device (in BIOS settings) and by changing the normal boot order "on the fly" through the hot-key.

Report the exact wording that you see in the error message (if it fails booting).

Another thing, get Chipgenius:
http://reboot.pro/to...661-chipgenius/
and run it against the USB stick, post the results.

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There could be several different issues.
First one could be the size of the stick (but if it works with FAT32 this is not possible).
Second could be some "strange" incompatibility of the BIOS with the NTFS bootsector (or with the partition ID of 07 in the partition table).

Are you familiar with using a disk/hex editor? (I need to know this if further tests are to be made=

Get this thingy here Clonedisk:
http://labalec.fr/erwan/?page_id=42

Click on the Tool tab, then Partition Table Editor, choose the USB stick (if you have a SSD and a HD it will be most probably \\.\PhysicalDrive2), you should see the first two lines filled with partition data, and the last two empty/all 00's.
The first line will have 07 as type, change it to 0C.
Save the edited partition table and reboot.
Try connecting the USB stick to a port "on the back" of the PC (i.e. one of those directly soldered to the motherboard) and NOT on one of the "front" ones, and try booting again.
Your motherboard most probably has a "hot key" to change boot order, you should try booting form the USB stick BOTH with USB set as primary boot device (in BIOS settings) and by changing the normal boot order "on the fly" through the hot-key.

Report the exact wording that you see in the error message (if it fails booting).

Another thing, get Chipgenius:
http://reboot.pro/to...661-chipgenius/
and run it against the USB stick, post the results.

jaclaz


ok i changed the 07 thing.. will try later if it works! for now, this is what chipgenius gives me:

Device Name: +[F:]+Periferica di archiviazione di massa USB(JetFlash Transcend 8GB USB Device)

PnP Device ID: VID = 058F PID = 6387
Serial Number: I8JIJGEV
Revision: 8.07

Device Type: Standard USB device - USB2.0 High-Speed

Chip Vendor: Alcor
Chip Part-Number: AU6983~AU6987

Product Vendor: (N/A)
Product Model: (N/A)

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ok i changed the 07 thing.. will try later if it works! for now, this is what chipgenius gives me:

Good, let's see if it changes something, before attempting anything else.

....

Chip Vendor: Alcor
Chip Part-Number: AU6983~AU6987
...

Good, it uses an Alcor chip for which an "easy enough" tool to "flip the bit" (if needed) is available.
Flipping the removable bit would make the device appear as "fixed" and thus allow to have more partitions accessible, we could then make a small FAT16 or FAT32 partition with just the boot files and the rest NTFS to hold the install "monolithic" wim, if we cannot find a way to have that thingy boot using any of the plainer approaches.

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ok, since i tried and had no luck even with the 0C thing.. what should i do next? :D

Make some mklink or something like that? thanks mate, you are doing great..

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ok, since i tried and had no luck even with the 0C thing.. what should i do next? :D

Make some mklink or something like that? thanks mate, you are doing great..

Naaah, next I would try flipping the bit (of course if you the guts for it :ph34r:).
Start reading here:
http://translate.goo...ru/files/alcor/

A suitable tool should be this one:
http://yadi.sk/d/95HEgbZl3-ZTR

If you have by any chance an USB hard disk (and it is NTFS formatted) have you ever checked if it's bootable on that PC?
(it would be of some psychological support to know if a "fixed" device - NTFS - is bootable)

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ok, since i tried and had no luck even with the 0C thing.. what should i do next? :D

Make some mklink or something like that? thanks mate, you are doing great..

Naaah, next I would try flipping the bit (of course if you the guts for it :ph34r:).
Start reading here:
http://translate.goo...ru/files/alcor/

A suitable tool should be this one:
http://yadi.sk/d/95HEgbZl3-ZTR

If you have by any chance an USB hard disk (and it is NTFS formatted) have you ever checked if it's bootable on that PC?
(it would be of some psychological support to know if a "fixed" device - NTFS - is bootable)

jaclaz


Ehm.. Can you tell me how to use the mklink method if possible? Fat32 on a partition and install.wim on the ntfs one.. The flipping thing seems too difficult for me..

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Ok, this is strange.. I tried with another usb stick, the worst 8gb stick I have and it works like a charm.. With transcend not.. But why???

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Ehm.. Can you tell me how to use the mklink method if possible? Fat32 on a partition and install.wim on the ntfs one.. The flipping thing seems too difficult for me..

WHICH mklink method? :w00t: (you know like in "you mentioned it, there isn't any mklink method that I know of").

But we can try installing grub4dos to the thingy and try understanding which is the specific issue (it could also be a peculiar problem of that particular specimen of transcend, like a timing issue of some kind, since another stick works fine).
If this is the case, we are back to square one the next step would be to attempt using the MP tool to "re-condition" the stick.

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Ehm.. Can you tell me how to use the mklink method if possible? Fat32 on a partition and install.wim on the ntfs one.. The flipping thing seems too difficult for me..

WHICH mklink method? :w00t: (you know like in "you mentioned it, there isn't any mklink method that I know of").

But we can try installing grub4dos to the thingy and try understanding which is the specific issue (it could also be a peculiar problem of that particular specimen of transcend, like a timing issue of some kind, since another stick works fine).
If this is the case, we are back to square one the next step would be to attempt using the MP tool to "re-condition" the stick.

jaclaz


whell, since i found out that my other USB works just fine, i think i'll leave things as they are.. for me it's a problem solved now :D thanks mate for everything you told and taught me! cheers!

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whell, since i found out that my other USB works just fine, i think i'll leave things as they are.. for me it's a problem solved now :D thanks mate for everything you told and taught me! cheers!

As long as you are now a happy bunny:
http://www.msfn.org/...up/page__st__10
that's fine with me :).

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whell, since i found out that my other USB works just fine, i think i'll leave things as they are.. for me it's a problem solved now :D thanks mate for everything you told and taught me! cheers!

As long as you are now a happy bunny:
http://www.msfn.org/...up/page__st__10
that's fine with me :).

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Lol wut? :D




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