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Several Win 95 Questions

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I'm trying to get Windows 95 up and running and looking for updates that will provide internet security. Does anyone know where I can download the Win 95 service packs?

I'm not sure which version I have, it's the OEM CD with usb support if that helps. Was also wondering if there's a fix to make Firefox work with Win 95

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Win95 "B" and Win95 "C" both had USB Support.

"B" (2.0) has no USB files at all and are (were) downloadable from MS.

"B" (2.1) has "DRIVERS\USB\ENDUSER\USBSUPP.EXE".

"C" (2.5) has "OTHER\UPDATES\USB\OEMUSB.EXE" + "USBSUPP.EXE" + "USBUPD2.EXE".

This doesn't provide any "unofficial" Service Packs but provides a link to overcome CPU Limit. However, if you go here and scroll down you'll find a couple of "unofficial" ones. The MSFN Topic is here. Get the actual file from the first link and if it doesn't work, scroll down on the second link and click into the Website for other links. Note that there ARE several Win95 topics of value in this Subforum.

edit - forgot to mention this Topic which specifically names Hotfixes. I believe IE5.5 SP2 is the last IE usable on Win95. Not sure about other Browsers. Also check out this Topic.

edit2 - Outpost Firewall v1 FREE (the second link) -

http://outpost-firewall-free.softpile.com/45412/download/

Google

"blockpost_2002_08_08.exe"

for an Add-On Blocking facility.

edit3 - for that eMachines, you'll have a dickens of a time finding the Drivers. I have them. It's a Trigem/Anaheim MoBo. http://www.elhvb.com/mboards/TriGem/

ULP!!! May be wrong - it COULD be a "Freeman" - Brother had one EXACTLY like it and I have all of the Gateway Docs and Drivers for it too. Check the MoBo for an "identifier".

KRAP - "Florida" MoBo...

HTH

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erpdude8's Unofficial Service Pack is incompatible with my FIX95CPU update. Installing it on a FIX95CPU system will render the system unbootable.

You will have to choose which update you want or need most. If you need FIX95CPU, then you can't use the USP as well. If you don't need FIX95CPU, then you can opt for the USP instead.

The Microsoft USB Support updates have been superseded by this. XUSBSUPP.ZIP - 901.0 Kb

This package installs every official updated file pertaining to USB under 95. Do NOT mix it with the original Microsoft ones. (And probably should NOT mix it with the USP either... :} )

Firefox - first be sure to install WINSOCK2 and any other update packages you wish to install. Then:

Firefox 1.5.0.12 runs natively on Windows 95.

Firefox 2.0.0.20 can be made to run on 95 by doing the following:

Download and run the 2.0.0.20 installer.

Select custom install.

Choose NOT to install the DOM Inspector and the Quality Feedback Agent.

When Setup completes, do NOT launch Firefox.

Find the following files and DELETE them: "nsSearchService.js" and "nsSafebrowsingApplication.js"

Now run Firefox.

(These instructions are taken from this original thread, but the OP there takes many unnecessary steps.)

EDIT:

See this also. YouTube with Flash 7/Win95

Edited by LoneCrusader
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edit3 - for that eMachines, you'll have a dickens of a time finding the Drivers. I have them. It's a Trigem/Anaheim MoBo. http://www.elhvb.com/mboards/TriGem/

ULP!!! May be wrong - it COULD be a "Freeman" - Brother had one EXACTLY like it and I have all of the Gateway Docs and Drivers for it too. Check the MoBo for an "identifier".

KRAP - "Florida" MoBo...

HTH

Thanks for all that info, it may take me a while to process that. :)

I did find the version of 95 I have. I looked on the system properties window and it says 4.00.950 C. So it's 95C.

Man, you are right about the motherboard drivers. Original driver disks are worth their weight in gold.

I didn't see any markings on the motherboard to suggest who the maker was. Here are a few pics of it, maybe you can tell.

001_zpsaeed932f.jpg

006-1_zps629f715b.jpg

005-1_zpse7aca90d.jpg

007-1_zps3931ae78.jpg

008_zps5e493258.jpg

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There was an excellent site for older eMachines. You just needed the Model number like Txxxx and you could get lots of good stuff from original specs, drivers and modified BIOS and such. I did a few. The site was www.e4allupgraders.info but don't click it because it now is a parking page.

Instead I checked Wayback ( for one year ago ).

Wayback ... The main page here

Wayback ... Drill down to Model Series ... here

Wayback ... Using "T" Model ... here

Wayback ... Using T3065 ( one of mine ) shows the FIC AU31 (K7M-NF18G) motherboard here

Wayback ... clicking downloads in that page shows the live offsite links for BIOS and mods here

... etc. So there is still hope! :thumbup

I looked upthread but your series and model number don't seem to be listed, unless I missed it.

EDIT: the most recent snapshot seems to be April 23, 2012. See here.. Changed "offsite", the links were local to the archived site after all and most of the files did not make it.

Edited by CharlotteTheHarlot
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Run CPU-Z v. 1.53 (or v. 1.47), and let's see what it says.

I'm not certain those versions work under 95. I haven't tested them (or if I did I don't remember) but I used v1.32.1 in this post and I believe I was using the last 95-compatible version at that time... :unsure:

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By following CharlotteTheHarlot's links (nice! :thumbup ), here's it: Trigem Florida-TG/TGA Mainboard

@LoneCrusader: if you scroll down the link I gave for 1.47, you'll find most other older versions there, including, of course, 1.32.1...

If you have some spare time, you might find out which actually is the last version that supports 95c. I know 1.47 works OK with 98SE, because it's the one I use in it, although 1.53 is said to be the last one for 98 (or 9x/ME ?).

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@LoneCrusader: if you scroll down the link I gave for 1.47, you'll find most other older versions there, including, of course, 1.32.1...

If you have some spare time, you might find out which actually is the last version that supports 95c. I know 1.47 works OK with 98SE, because it's the one I use in it, although 1.53 is said to be the last one for 98 (or 9x/ME ?).

According to the CPUID Version History page, a 1.57 exists for 98. Versions after this have no 9x listings or comments...

I clicked on some of the other builds linked on your link at OldVersion.com. Version 1.32.0 is listed working on 95 there. Version 1.33 is listed as NOT working on 95.

So, given the only build between these is 1.32.1, and I have used that one on 95 myself, it would seem to support that version being the last one working on 95. Further experiments should be made, but 1.32.1 is a good place to start and should work for identifying the OP's machine.

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I agree. I change my advice to v 1.32.1, then.

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By following CharlotteTheHarlot's links (nice! :thumbup ), here's it: Trigem Florida-TG/TGA Mainboard

It turns out that the files are not offsite like I assumed. They were in fact onsite but after a certain size were not archived by Wayback. :realmad: I just went through his motherboard and got these results ...

  • CPU (html)
  • Jumpers (html)
  • End-User Tips (html)
  • Downloads (html)
  • BIOS v1.80 Binary (exe), Readme (text)
  • BIOS v2.00 Binary (exe), Readme (text)
  • AUDIO: CS4280 ... for Win98SE/ME/2K (PW3041.zip not archived), for Win2K (PW3022R.zip not archived)
  • AUDIO: CS4281 ... for Win98SE/ME/2K (PW5026.zip not archived), for Win2K (PW5015C.zip not archived)
  • VIDEO: ATI 3D Rage Pro Turbo v4.13.2655 ... for Win95b/98/ME (wme-j5-30-1-b02.exe not archived)
  • VIDEO: ATI 3D Rage Pro Turbo v5.0.2195.5013 ... for Win2k (w2k-j5-30-1-b02.exe not archived)
  • VIDEO: ATI 3D Rage Pro Turbo v5.10.2600.6010 ... for WinXP (wxp-j5-30-1-b02.exe not archived)
  • Motherboard Manual ... version TG (Florida-TG.zip not archived), version TGA (Florida_TGA.zip not archived)

So only the BIOS binaries are stored at Wayback. However those filenames may yield some results in Google and elsewhere.

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According to the CPUID Version History page, a 1.57 exists for 98. Versions after this have no 9x listings or comments...

Yes, this is true.

At around v1.50 some bugs started appearing in Win9x and I was in contact with him at the time. I can't remember what the specific issue was, but I imagine it was compiler related like System Internals utilities. Here is what I have saved ...

2009-02-13 ... 19:56 ... 1,527,808 ... Cpuz.exe_1500

2009-04-28 ... 14:28 ... 1,564,672 ... Cpuz.exe_1510

2009-07-25 ... 11:56 ... 1,739,240 ... Cpuz.exe_1521_xp

2009-08-25 ... 16:29 ... 1,718,760 ... Cpuz.exe_1522_9x <---

2009-12-19 ... 15:45 ... 1,759,720 ... Cpuz.exe_1530_9x <---

2009-12-19 ... 15:35 ... 1,788,392 ... Cpuz.exe_1530_xp

2010-03-30 ... 23:45 ... 1,849,832 ... Cpuz.exe_1540_9x <---

2010-03-30 ... 23:42 ... 1,886,696 ... Cpuz.exe_1540_xp

2010-07-09 ... 14:34 ... 1,878,504 ... Cpuz.exe_1550_9x <---

2010-07-09 ... 14:30 ... 1,915,368 ... Cpuz.exe_1550_xp

2010-10-26 ... 23:46 ... 1,964,520 ... Cpuz.exe_1560_9x <---

2010-10-26 ... 23:39 ... 1,997,288 ... Cpuz.exe_1560_xp

2011-02-18 ... 16:03 ... 2,091,496 ... Cpuz.exe_1570_9x <--- this one he still distributes as Cpuz9x

2011-02-18 ... 15:57 ... 2,128,360 ... Cpuz.exe_1570_xp

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Thank you, jaclaz for helping out. I already gave the "elhvb" link but it must have not gotten noticed. :unsure: I have used that site a LOT before! ;)

side note (edit) - had a bit of a problem with posting/editing. I MEANT to specify "Florida-TG" so thanks for expanding on it with specifics, all. I had already gotten the correct manual.

BTW, yep I have all of the drivers. Pretty much the same as an eTower "533ID". I'm unsure if you'll need Chipset Driver(s) or if they're included in the Win95.

Edited by submix8c
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